Well now there's a problem with the word "unvaccinated." If a patient dies with only his initial shot and maybe one booster, but not the additional ones, he is considered unvaccinated.
most of the studies dont considered people vaccinated til 2 weeks have passed after the second shot... so all the people having adverse reactions to shot 1 or 2 are considered unvaxxed... its so deceptive
Yes, we have to pay for our indoctrination = Tyranny at its best. Today an incredible interview with Alice Weidel (AfD / patriots) and Phoenix where the journalist lied so obviously and insisted we have big variety with the new vaccines, but traditional vaccines are missing. Nevertheless he insisted permanently that this the big variety with the vector- and mRNA-Technology.
They think we are absolutely stupid! Trump "Fake News Media" is the most important message for our wellbeing above all!
I think perhaps a large part of the reason that governments are doing the 'purebloods are banned from hospitals' now, is that having their survival stats compared to the stats from the vaxxed would be utterly damning.
So among other reasons (clearly also as part of coercion, etc) its a pre-emptive way of tampering with data that will inevitably show the vax is deadly and is killing lots of people.
I had a pretty major surgery a few months ago, couldn't put it off any longer. I had to get the swab in the nose (not the one where it's jammed up by your brain) to be cleared for admittance. My biggest fear was them giving my a COVID shot while I was under anesthesia.
Putting off repair of a traumatic injury that I can put off for some time. Waiting for sweet reason to return to the world, especially the medical world.
Will not willingly go near a hospital with things the way they are.
Someone check my work on this, but the study you linked seems to show the opposite of what is being implied by the tweet.
I'm just looking at pages 15 and 16 and I'm just looking at the over 80 for an example. The paper says deaths for >80 is 189 unvaccinated 1,378 double jabbed.
But from page 16 it shows that that over 90% of the >80 population is vaxed. So that would mean 10% of them are unvaxed.
If the vaxed population has 1,378 deaths, then if the unvaxed had identical death rates you would expect ~153 deaths, but it's 189. So that looks slightly worse for the unvaxed. (someone correct me if I'm interpreting the data wrong)
Now I don't trust any of this data to begin with, so I doubt this is really the case. And I only bothered to do this for one age group. But if we're going to use their own data against them, then we need to make sure the data says what we think it says.
This is a great chart to look at, I hope everyone looks bc its excellent info to bring up when having a discussion on this. An important point ppl dont realize and its the real reason why theres a 'waiting period' of 14 days after 2nd shot.
Perfect example, right here. Yes its an internet God knows who anecdotal but it, imo is reality of this. Sorry for /r/ but lets not get hung up on that, its a great eg of what op posted here
That guys mom has died twice now... they are trying so hard to push the ‘it’s not the vaccines doing this’ narrative....... the desperation is almost visceral.....
What it looks like is people are dying from something…. FROM or WITH COVID…. Vaccination status has little bearing on survival one way or another. This needs to be viewed along with accurate vax rates.
For example, if vax rate is 80% and when looking at deaths we find that 80% of dead were vaxxed, it tells us that vax means nothing. On the other hand, if 95% dead were vaxxed, that indicates vax is causing deaths, etc. need ALL THE DATA… and need ACCURATE DATA…. I would surmise neither is available.
Well isn't the Answer to that question obvious? The in vaxx Nate's get so sick that they have to go to the hospital immediately, so they end up taking all the ICU beds. The vaccinated have protection so they don't go to the er until later. When they get there the unvaxxed have already taken all the beds so the vaxxed die in the lobby.
That's the conclusion they want everyone to jump to when in reality most in the control group wouldn't go to the hospital in the first place and would rather tough out the koof at home.
This data is incomplete. You cannot determine the significance of this data without knowing the percentage of people that are vaccinated. If 99% of people are vaccinated it’s different then if 10% are vaccinated.
If 100% of people are vaxxed, then 100% of deaths will be in vaxed. If 99% of people are vaxxed and 50% of deaths are in the unvaccinated, it’s a different story then if 99% of people are vaxxed and less then 1% of deaths are in the unvaccinated.
Well now there's a problem with the word "unvaccinated." If a patient dies with only his initial shot and maybe one booster, but not the additional ones, he is considered unvaccinated.
See the word games here?
In Germany it is:
most of the studies dont considered people vaccinated til 2 weeks have passed after the second shot... so all the people having adverse reactions to shot 1 or 2 are considered unvaxxed... its so deceptive
cross-over shots = unvaccinated WOW, did not know that one! Do you have a link, fren?
Luxemburg: https://gouvernement.lu/en/actualites/toutes_actualites/communiques/2021/07-juillet/08-vaccination-mix-match.html
Germany: https://www.br.de/nachrichten/wissen/kreuzimpfung-kombi-von-astrazeneca-und-mrna-impfstoff-empfohlen,SXCWBK1 only in german BR is part of MSM. Government propaganda forcibly paid for by each and every german taxpayer who lives not in the streets. Even business owners have to paid for their business locations. The text says cross-over shots combine the advantages of both vaccines.
Yes, we have to pay for our indoctrination = Tyranny at its best. Today an incredible interview with Alice Weidel (AfD / patriots) and Phoenix where the journalist lied so obviously and insisted we have big variety with the new vaccines, but traditional vaccines are missing. Nevertheless he insisted permanently that this the big variety with the vector- and mRNA-Technology.
They think we are absolutely stupid! Trump "Fake News Media" is the most important message for our wellbeing above all!
When you change fraternities you need to show you are really committed before you are accepted as one of them
I think perhaps a large part of the reason that governments are doing the 'purebloods are banned from hospitals' now, is that having their survival stats compared to the stats from the vaxxed would be utterly damning.
So among other reasons (clearly also as part of coercion, etc) its a pre-emptive way of tampering with data that will inevitably show the vax is deadly and is killing lots of people.
I think many pure bloods also know to stay away from the damn hospital.
I had a pretty major surgery a few months ago, couldn't put it off any longer. I had to get the swab in the nose (not the one where it's jammed up by your brain) to be cleared for admittance. My biggest fear was them giving my a COVID shot while I was under anesthesia.
Exactly.
Putting off repair of a traumatic injury that I can put off for some time. Waiting for sweet reason to return to the world, especially the medical world.
Will not willingly go near a hospital with things the way they are.
Their not safe, neither are many medical professionals.
That’s right.
Hey, got a link to the actual study?
Thanks fren.
Someone check my work on this, but the study you linked seems to show the opposite of what is being implied by the tweet.
I'm just looking at pages 15 and 16 and I'm just looking at the over 80 for an example. The paper says deaths for >80 is 189 unvaccinated 1,378 double jabbed. But from page 16 it shows that that over 90% of the >80 population is vaxed. So that would mean 10% of them are unvaxed.
If the vaxed population has 1,378 deaths, then if the unvaxed had identical death rates you would expect ~153 deaths, but it's 189. So that looks slightly worse for the unvaxed. (someone correct me if I'm interpreting the data wrong)
Now I don't trust any of this data to begin with, so I doubt this is really the case. And I only bothered to do this for one age group. But if we're going to use their own data against them, then we need to make sure the data says what we think it says.
Did WWII every really end? It's looking like the end was just the beginning of the infiltration phase.
I tell people that we've secretly been in WWIII for many years now.
Strange things are happening
This is a great chart to look at, I hope everyone looks bc its excellent info to bring up when having a discussion on this. An important point ppl dont realize and its the real reason why theres a 'waiting period' of 14 days after 2nd shot.
Perfect example, right here. Yes its an internet God knows who anecdotal but it, imo is reality of this. Sorry for /r/ but lets not get hung up on that, its a great eg of what op posted here
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/raw5eg/mom_just_passed_away_in_the_hospital_from_a/
That guys mom has died twice now... they are trying so hard to push the ‘it’s not the vaccines doing this’ narrative....... the desperation is almost visceral.....
WWG1WGA
Because they know the normies won't do any research at all, and will believe everything told to them at face value.
They know that the normies can't even bother to read, these reports alone make you question things if you actually read them.
That's not speculation a doomed person is going to hunt down. IMHO.
Clearly ICU deaths of the vaccinated are from exposure to unvaccinated ICU patients.
/amirite guyze?
What it looks like is people are dying from something…. FROM or WITH COVID…. Vaccination status has little bearing on survival one way or another. This needs to be viewed along with accurate vax rates.
For example, if vax rate is 80% and when looking at deaths we find that 80% of dead were vaxxed, it tells us that vax means nothing. On the other hand, if 95% dead were vaxxed, that indicates vax is causing deaths, etc. need ALL THE DATA… and need ACCURATE DATA…. I would surmise neither is available.
Well isn't the Answer to that question obvious? The in vaxx Nate's get so sick that they have to go to the hospital immediately, so they end up taking all the ICU beds. The vaccinated have protection so they don't go to the er until later. When they get there the unvaxxed have already taken all the beds so the vaxxed die in the lobby.
Fucking antivaxxers!
That's the conclusion they want everyone to jump to when in reality most in the control group wouldn't go to the hospital in the first place and would rather tough out the koof at home.
Pray for those who are victims of this evil scheme. Indoctrination or not, I feel bad for them.
It's all in how you define "unvaccinated".
This data is incomplete. You cannot determine the significance of this data without knowing the percentage of people that are vaccinated. If 99% of people are vaccinated it’s different then if 10% are vaccinated.
While that is true, if the vaxx was doing it's job the number of vaxxed dying should be very very low, no?
If 100% of people are vaxxed, then 100% of deaths will be in vaxed. If 99% of people are vaxxed and 50% of deaths are in the unvaccinated, it’s a different story then if 99% of people are vaxxed and less then 1% of deaths are in the unvaccinated.