She’s never mentioned this before and I see the new shingles vaccine arrived in 2017. Quick search tells me they got rid of the old vaccine and this new one has some nasty side effects. Also I see some info about the Covid vaccine possibly causing shingles in some people? The conversation was about vaccines, she asked me if I’m totally against vaccines or just Covid vaccine. I told her I want to wait and see on the Covid. Then she brought up the Shingles vax. It kind of felt like……if we can’t get them to take the Covid vax, let’s see if they’ll take the Shingles vax…….
Edit: based on responses, could the shingles vaccine be a contributing factor to those who died with/from covid? How many who died from Covid also had the shingles vaccine? It’s for people over 60 so would be a similar demographic.
Your Dr is getting kickbacks from Big Pharma.
She’s part of a big hmo and I guess they have their script to read. These doctors are starting to sound like telemarketers.
This sounds like a comment that should be said in every doctor visit where they push jabs. To compare these "gods" to telemarketers is gold...but may get you fired. kek!
Find a local independent provider. Look for Naturopathic or functional medicine providers. Ditch the fucking major health system docs. They don’t think for themselves and only follow orders from the administrators.
They are killing people in my hospital every day. Just following orders though, right? I hope the day of reckoning is approaching and they all get exactly what they deserve.
yeah, covid causes shingles in some people but also just being around vaxxed people can cause shingles too... the spike proteins they shed on you do the job.
maybe, your doc thinks that the singles vaccine will help prevent this.
but I still wouldn't take it; too much danger in any vax these days and we know how trustworthy the manufacturers are.
there are plenty of safe ways to suppress and treat shingles so I'd stick with those rather than risk it with some crazy shot.
Agreed, I read the side effects and they are terrible. And the literature says “the side effects from the shingles vaccine may be bad but it will be much worse if you get shingles and you don’t have the shingles vax.” I don’t know where I’ve heard that before but it seems so familiar………
Why don't you ask your doctor why he's pushing the shingles vaccine, and ask him why cases of vax-related autoimmune conditions such as shingles and herpes are exploding through the roof.
No need, the info that was just provided by you and others confirms my suspicions. Unfortunately. Hopefully others can get the heads up before their salesman, er, doctor offers them the shingles vaccine. What a hot mess.
It it covid causing shingles?
I submit shingles are 2° to the SAR-CoV-2/flu infections.
Ever see people get fever blisters when they're all stressed out? Same thing.
With a weakened immune system and stress, it will cause a shingles outbreak easily. Saw it very often. After an emotional or physical stress. Like after a death stress.
my understanding is that lots of people have the shingles virus in their system, but that under normal conditions their immune system will prevent them from getting a rash (outward symptoms).
When covid or any other major disease strikes, the immune system is stressed or weakened and a shingles rash may develop.
Same thing with getting shedded upon with spike proteins... immune system is under attack so the shingles might appear.
Bob Beck had a good system for keeping the immune system strong when it is under attack: https://www.bobbeck.com/ . It worked in the 90s and it still works today...
The chicken pox virus/ Herpes zoster never leaves after contracting it.
It goes and lies dormant in our basal root ganglia, which is in our spinal cord, located in the back.
Thats why the shingles rash will sometimes wrap around the torso.
Plus, you can have shingles more than once, with or without a vaccine. I had the first vaccine because everyone in my family eventually had shingles at least once and impressed on me how miserable they were. Didn't notice a thing. Then the second vax came along, I had the first shot and my arm hurt for months and that was the end of that. I don't think we know enough about shingles, and after this year we don't know enough about vaccines either. Guess it's research time.
Exposure to children with chicken pox is the natural "booster" to shingles in adults. Now that kids don't get natural chicken pox, people aren't getting the exposure that helps boost their own immune system from their kids, grandkids, nephews, nieces, neighborhood kids, etc. Now shingles is on the rise. And another excuse to create another vaccine, one with harmful side effects and reactions.
Science shot itself in the foot to create a vaccine for a childhood disease that is mild when contacted in young age.
Not sure this is true. Our body has immunity to shingles. Covid Vaccine can cause you to lose that immune memory and then you will be susceptible to shingles next time you catch it. However if you did not get vaccinated, afaik the shedded spike proteins that enter via airways and skin will not make it intact to lymph nodes causing ur immune system to be attacked.
True, I had shingles like ten years ago and when I had COVID three months ago I had a minor case of shingles .
You get shingles when your immune system is overloaded and you had chicken pox as a.child. viruses don't exist its a scam...up your vitamin c and magnesium
From my understanding, the shingles vax will cause shingles in about 30 percent of cases. Shingles is affecting much younger people every year. When I first started in health care years ago, shingles was rare and usually only occurred in the elderly or older patients that were very ill - like being treated for cancer. The shingles vaxxination and the Rona inoculation have now shot that into the stratosphere. My brother received one dose and broke out in shingles from hell. He is in his fifties. He could not wear a shirt for almost 3 months.
Shingles vaxxines are just one more money maker for the drug companies. They are pushing hard for a mandatory adult vaxxine schedule to match the children's schedule. It was all planned. When they introduced the chicken pox vaxxine into the childhood immunization schedule the rate of shingles started to go up. A typical Hegelian dialectic process - problem, reaction, solution. By removing chicken pox from our environment, which is a childhood nuisance disease and very rarely serious, older adults that had chicken pox as children have been unable to be exposed to infected kids in order to give their immune systems a natural booster to keep the chicken pox in check. The vax was supposed to substitute for the lack of natural exposure. A vaxxine does not confer the same type of immune response that natural exposure causes. In addition, there are any number of toxic adjuvants in vaxxines that irritate the crap out of our immune systems. That is the reason the shingles vax can challenge the body in such a way as to actually cause an outbreak.
Shingles is hell - ask anyone that has had to suffer with it. There is a way to deal with any type of double stranded DNA herpes virus - and that includes chicken pox. L-lysine is an amino acid that has numerous studies that show effectiveness at keeping these critters at bay. 500mg to 1000mg a day on an empty stomach at times when the body is going through stress - like from an illness, trauma, or emotional stressors - or daily use for those people at higher risk. Many people have been able to control herpes outbreaks without the need for antiviral drugs or vaxxines. I cannot attest to the long term chronic use of L-lysine but it does not seem to cause any problems that I am aware of. Do your homework.
Next time your doc asks you about getting a jab, ask her if there are any risks. If she is lying she will say no. At that point you need to find another doctor. If she tells the truth she will have to say yes, but she may try to minimize the risks by saying they are rare. Have her explain what those risks are. At that point just politely thank her and say you have decided that you are not willing to take the risk. That is informed consent. Nowhere is this a discussion over whether you are an antivaxxer. Do not allow them to pin that label on you.
My mother got talked into taking a shingles “vaccine” and immediately got shingles.
There are billions of very healthy long-lived humans who don’t regularly see a medical doctor.
That sucks. I really hate to hear things like that and it was one of the reasons why I left clinical practice. I won't take part in pushing any of the shots on people. I was able to fly under the radar for a number of years just keeping my head down. But Covid took the pressure to a whole new level. Maybe when this system crashes there will be a place for honest health care instead of just disease management. Hope your mother is doing better. Tell her to stay away from any vaxxination they are trying to shove at her. This is also why we have an explosion of dementia in older adults. In children it is called autism. Same cause, different names.
I totally agree. Unfortunately my mom has taken every shot offered, including the latest booster which she no longer remembers taking because she is in rapid cognitive decline. I begged her not to, but she trusts her doctor more than me. 🤷🏻♀️
I’m numb.
So sad to hear that. I pray there is a really hot place in hell for those responsible for releasing this suffering upon mankind. God bless.
I got shingles. Wasn't very painful..didn't take painkillers.
You were lucky. I have seen some pretty bad cases. I had one patient that had a breakout on his head and it migrated into his eye. The poor guy had cancer too. Just remember, if you have had shingles in the past, you are more prone in the future. Let's just pray your luck holds out and it never happens again.
My 1st experience with severe shilgles involved a dermatome that ran fron this old man's shoulder and up over the back of his head into his left eye. Misery defined.
It finally broke him and he died. He was a sick man to begin with. It basically rendered him speechless as he was consumed with pain.
Sounds exactly the same. Even though this guy was in his sixties, which is far from what I consider elderly, he was very sick. As usual, he was on a downward spiral of chronic illness aggravated by severe nutritional deficiencies and environmental toxicities that eventually led to cancer. The shingles was just icing on the cake. He was always in good spirit and quite the jokester which I am convinced helped him hang on as long as he did. Although his last couple of years were pretty miserable, he never seemed down. His wife was one of my regular patients and we could never convince him to try something different. He would only do what his doctors told him - especially when he was diagnosed with cancer. Sometimes it's hard to get people to cut away from what they perceive to be their lifeline - even though in the end it is probably one of the biggest contributors to their ill health.
Exactly.
I don't rely on luck. I take supplements
Good for you. But a little prayerful luck never hurt either. Stay healthy fren.
I sold tons of L-lysine for fever blisters. Works like a charm for some
Works good at suppressing any kind of herpes virus. People that suffer with occasional fever blister breakouts are better at knowing when they need to ramp up the L-lysine versus someone trying to prevent shingles. People need to learn to be more mindful of what their body is doing and hear the signals that could mean a challenge is underway. Easier said than done. IMO the more toxicity a person has, the harder it is for them to tune into their bodies. All by design.
The same with my sister. My brother and me got the pox, but she had maybe one blister - that's it. Some people's immune systems just don't react the way the majority of the population does. Popping the blisters on your kid gave you a booster. That is the way adults for years kept themselves well. I can remember having a friend that all 6 of her kids got the pox at the same time. They had a party. I made sure I gave each one of those kids a great big hug and a kiss. It has been about 10 years. I really need to locate another party because I think I need another booster. Lol.
I don't have anyone in my family that has allergies to insect stings like bees and such, so I am assuming there might be a genetic component there. In fact, there are no allergies for anything among my close and extended family relations by blood. Why some people develop allergies and others don't we fully do not understand.
Been stung by hornets. They hurt like hell and they chase you down. I had to escape by running in the house and jumping in the shower upstairs. That was no fun. I am just glad no one was filming me running around the cars and out in the street trying to get away from those little bastards. I am sure it was funny to watch. What surprised me was that I didn't react to the stings the way I thought. A couple of hours later I didn't notice anything. I was also bitten years ago by a spider tinkering around in my garage. It bit me on the ankle and all I noticed at first was a pain that started moving up my leg. It started out mild and then got pretty intense by the time it started to swell. It resolved in less than a day after I got the poison out of my leg. Sounds gross, but I squeezed a bunch of white soapy like goo out of my pores. When I couldn't squeeze anymore of the goo out of my leg, it got better. I was actually pretty amazed at how fast it resolved. At the time I knew of two other people that died of spider bites - it took them both out in less than 24 hours. One guy was only 25. I really believe God guided me as to what to do. I think it was a brown recluse. That incident gave me a whole new respect for arachnids.
No allergies in my family either...i always say it was because we were breastfed and played in non-sanitized, yet not filthy, environments.
I'd ask pts, usually moms, how did the pioneers not all die without our modern meds and copious amts of bleach?
Usually a blank stare. The bleach moms had the sickest, most allergic kids...
Your screed reads like we're alot alike lol I've been chased by hornets but not stung. Had a white ash tree, the hornets woukd fly from one patch of woods to the ash and gather the bark for their nest. 4 of them lined up.on a leaf's edge in formation and simultaneously took flight adter me. Ran like a scalded dig!
Hey, I came from good pioneer stock in the Midwest. My mom's family immigrated from Russia and my father's family has been here from the founding. They were tough people and the strongest survived. I ask people the same thing. How the hell did anyone survive without all the modern pharma crap? The healthiest kids I saw were unvaxxed and allowed to be kids. They were not raised in a sterile bubble with a helicopter mom hoovering overhead. It was actually a very interesting cohort. Not one in the bunch had any kind of developmental issue or allergies. Many are now healthy young adults. No comparison to the sicker kids that had been jabbed and drugged. How others cannot put those pieces together is beyond me.
Amen!
Beautifully and wonderfully made
Exactly what they don't want us to fully realize.
...sick people are revenue enhancers....
I hope that’s all it is.
...just as long as you are not on that list....
Consolation vaxx if you are refusinf covid. You may have never taken a shingles vaxx before... but in this situation your Dr. thinks you have a higher chance of taking it as a "compromise". This is a proven psychogical manipulation trick.
On a side note I would encojrage everyone to read Dr. Baldacci's book called "Influence". It is presented as an educational book but it is great at arming you with the skills to identify influence tricks and therfor, better prepares you to resist them.
Lol I immediately thought, what is this the runner up vaccine? If I don’t want the main attraction why would I want the runner up? These people are nuts!
Just say - "reports are out that physicians get a $90 bonus for every covid vaccine given to their patients. There are also bonuses for prescribing Remdesivir to covid patients. Is there a similar bonus for getting your patients to take the Shingles vax?" And then just stare into her eyes, without blinking or talking until she responds.
The vaccines can cause spike proteins to enter your lymph nodes and the lymph cells will be targeted and killed. If that cell happens to be a memory cell of a previous disease (like chickenpox you caught when young) then you will lose immunity to that disease if enough of those memory cells are destroyed.
This is causing outbreak of shingles recently, amongst other things. Of course the Big Pharma is getting ahead of this, while also lining their pockets.
If you didnt take the vaccines, you dont have to worry about this.
Thank u for the easy to understand explanation, this makes sense.
This website will tell you the amount of money in kickbacks your doctor receives from pharma and medical equipment companies: https://openpaymentsdata.cms.gov/search/physicians/by-name-and-location There is some "code language" in here to try to hide what the payments are really for.
As far as I've been able to determine, the worst offenders are neurologists pushing Botox injections from Allergan. It may not be illegal, but it should be.
Doctors are closely followed and regulated by medical boards. They actually have quotas they need to make, else they get called out for practicing outside of the Standard of Care, which is a HUGE no no. They must prescribe a certain amount of specific medications for coded medical conditions, it’s all tracked digitally thanks to Obummer. There are percentages based on how many patients are seen.
VERY EVIL.
Ho lee fuk and thanks Obama. Didn’t know this. Feels evil.
The Doctor no doubt gets paid for increased sales by the pharmaceutical company. I wonder if they ever get a guilty conscience being salesman for big pharma after taking an oath to heal and not harm.
She actually did look a little uncomfortable. We started talking about something else and she never went back to the shingles vax topic and she didn’t order it for me. Weird.
About 6 years ago, my sister-in-law who was in good health with no issues even though she was in her mid-sixties, got a flu shot at her annual well check and then a week or so later took a shingles booster as offered by the pharmacy in her grocery store. It seemed like a good decision at the time to her.
Within 2 weeks she developed a condition that nearly drove her to suicide. Her elbow swelled up, turned pink and hot and started feeling like she was being stabbed. Over the next few days this swollen lump migrated to different joints around her body. She surprisingly did not attribute it to the vaccines, but I did.
She went to her doctor and he diagnosed her with rheumatoid arthritis and put her on Prednisone and a couple of other nasty drugs that caused her to feel horrible, depressed and in a fog. She became bed-ridden for most of the day. She has never really recovered from this, and has lived a miserable life since.
I did some investigating into the taxpayer-funded national vaccine injury slush fund, and learned that rheumatoid arthitis is a common side affect from the Shingles vax! She met the criteria and I advised her husband (my brother) how they should file to receive compensation for her injury. They ignored me.
The research revealed that the varicella zoster aspect in the Shingles booster can trigger this autoimmune issue and it is permanent. But I learned that the majority of the vaccine injury and death claims from the slush fund were from the MMR vaccine and the annual FLU SHOT. Can you believe it?
Now, imagine my surprise when I learn she anxiously went out and got both her Covid shots because she was 'too afraid' to go out in public, so she said the vaccine would allow her to do so with confidence. She then told me she did not want to hear any information to the contrary and I haven't talked to her since.
My advice - don't get any more vaccine-type shots until further notice, PERIOD.
And with that, another vax-tarded NPC gets Sparta kicked into the pit of misery; forever damned to to a miserable existence and will probably die early due to their incompetence. You're better off that way. It's a very callous-sounding, un-Christian thing to say but at some point even God's patience and tolerance wears out.
Shit. And I have arthritis and my dr, the one who wants me to take the shingles vaccine, knows this. Counting the days to open enrollment, need a new plan and a new doctor. They’re just adding layers of vaccines on top of vaccines now. Just say no.
My mother-in-law took the vax shots. She hasn't had shingles in decades, but got hit with a REALLY bad case of shingles 3 weeks after her 2nd Covid vax shot. It lasted for nearly 6 weeks, required about 10 days in the hospital and still comes and goes even months later.
A lot of vaxed people are having problems with shingles.
If your not Covid vaxed... I'd skip it for now.
Perhaps it is because your Dr. truly works for the pharmaceutical companies , not for you. That said, shingles sucks. My ex got it when working in a nursing home, Her Doctor told us (lied) it was not contagious and that I couldn't catch it from her. She said that it was her own stress that caused the chickenpox to reemerge as shingles, not from contact with anyone at her work. She was in a lot of pain and then I got it too, only a tiny patch on my spine right above my pants line. For a few days I was in real pain, felt like my spine was all twisted up. Even so, I wouldn't get a vaccine for it, because If you had chickenpox like 99% of us have, you already have the virus and your immune system knows how to fight it. What good is a "vaccine" for something your body already has defenses for? To me it does not make sense.
Ty for the info. So if stress causes shingles we should all be covered in shingles after 2 years of this shit show…..if we didn’t get it yet maybe we are good.
stress can be a factor, also weakened immune system.
A weakened immune system from taking an unnecessary vaccine.
Perhaps he's attempting to complicate your ability to sue him for Covid vaccine injuries by injuring you with many different vaccines?
I absolutely had that thought as well. They really really really don’t want a vax free control group…
Gotta muddy the waters.
I got shingles a year ago. I'm pure blood, but wondered "why now, after all these years?" I'm pretty healthy. Then it dawned on me that recently injected people might be shedding something and I got shingles. Could just be a coincidence.
Anyway, I take a lysine pill every day. It'll prevent me from getting shingles again and it protects from cold/flu/Chinese imaginary bat virus. Look it up, several articles on this site.
Ok thank u
Yup! My friend and I both got mild case of shingles. She was in FL basically vacationing for a few months but in close contact with a vaxed family member. Mine came out after vacationing with my vaxed family. When she went to the doctor, he said he’s seen a major increase in shingles. She straight up asked about shedding, he would commit but the nurse kept nodding her head. No doubt they are shedding!! As a side note, horse paste works wonders for it
Probably a promp on the laptop from which they never look up and your age on some flow chart says you need one
I was working with a man from West Virginia last year and he took the shingles vaccine. About a month later, he got sick with what the doctors said was covid and never recovered. I'm not saying that the vaccine was the problem but he was the only person on the jobsite, of about 80 people, that I know took the shingles vaccine and he was the only one on the jobsite that I know that died of covid.
Wow. Another possible example of the shingles vaccine weakening immune system. I wonder what the big numbers show. How many people who died with or from covid, had also been vaccinated with the new shingles vaccine? The shingles vaccine is recommended for 60 and over. Hmmmm?
I have had shingles several times over the past 30 years and was thinking about getting the vaccine, that all changed after the rollout of the covid vaccines. I wouldn't take ice cream from the government or the pharma companies right now.
taking zinc plus an ionophore (such as quercetin, HCQ, green tea extract... or just drinking green tea) would probably solve any shingles problem if/when it arises much more safely than your doc's vaccine.
No not really. My husband was on complete prophylactic protocol for Ovid except for ivermectin and he got a horrible case of shingles.
Maybe L-Lysine or N-acetylcysteine. Another antiviral is olive leaf extract.
Ok that’s easy, ty!
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My husband had a terrible outbreak of shingles which I believe was instigated by contact with vaxxed people. He is vax free and it really kicked his butt. I treated it with L-lysine and an essential oil blend. He ended up going to the doctor who gave him a steroid that made him break out with folliculitis. I really tried many different things and finally used the combo essential oils of Ravensara and caullophyllum recommended by Dr. Schnaubelt. Next time (hopefully NEVER) I will do that first as it is supposed to stop it in it's tracks. The pain was terrible. The oils prevented any scarring and he did get better but it sure was a long trial. I have now stocked up on caullophyllum and ravensara and that will be my first line of treatment. Just a note of caution...l-lysine and/or NAC can lower blood pressure. He actually blacked out so be very careful with l-lysine and NAC if you are on blood pressure meds. Spraying the area with colloidal silver seemed to help finish it off.
He got gout before he totally healed from the shingles and of course we used homeopathics, oils and tart cherry. It has been a long journey and I am trying to rebuild his immune system. He got sick after Christmas with several cold/flu/covid symptoms even though he was taking the covid protocol (except for ivermectin). I took him off a blood pressure medicine (verapamil) so he can take ivermectin if he has to. That is a nasty drug that interacts with a ton of other drugs and supplements. It has been a learning curve for sure but he is on the road to recovery. Natural healing can take a while but it works with your immune system not against it.
Also if I get fever blisters on my mouth I use a drop of Melissa oil on my lips and they dry up pretty instantaneously.
http://naturesgiftaromatherapy.blogspot.com/2010/10/shingles-again.html?m=1
Wife's aunt has had shingles over 1 year post 1st shot. They wont let up.
No idea if she got more shots. She's smart but scared. Just widowed after 49yrs.
She should try ivermectin or fenbendazole...why not? Any thoughts?
Have her take L-Lysine. It reduces the prevalence of herpes outbreaks and can mitigate other autoimmune abnormalities like shingles.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=l-lysine+shingles&atb=v195-1&ia=web
She may find it will help her condition. Good luck, Fren.
edit: Also maybe have her look into taking NAC as well. It's a potent anti-inflammatory and antioxidant.
https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=NAC+shingles&atb=v195-1&ia=web
However, L-Lysine is her best bet. It's an autoimmune-sufferer's best friend.
Oh no I’m so sorry to hear that. I don’t know how to help but hopefully one of our wonderful friends has an idea.
Check my post below.
Ready for this…. Look what the new mRNA vaccine is… https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/news/pfizer-mrna-vaccine-shingles/
At this point in time the medical community is not trying to help us, but actively trying to harm us. Don't let them inject anything without being 1,000% sure.
Had my yearly check up and my doctor told me about the shingles vaccine. I told him I got shingles in my early 30s, it sucked and I got over it.
Coworker had booster in Nov. got the vid in Dec and now has shingles in Jan.
Another co worker got the vax last year and then the doctor told her to get the shingles vax too.
Every vax is suspect now.
MONEY !
I had the 2 shot shingles vax and the second was definitely the more difficult in 2018-9 and the Prevnar pneumonia and flu vax in 2019. Luckily I was watching the C19 much more closely and thought no effing way. I'm done with vaccines.
The doctors push all vaccines because they receive a kick back from big Pharma if a percentage of their practice is vaccinated. All vaccines lower your immune system for up to 3 months making you susceptible to illness. So if you take the shingles vax, maybe you will get Covid and start the snowball of physical deterioration rolling. Many of these doctors are just as evil as a Big Pharma. Either way, get yourself a new doctor.
Before covid at an annual exam my doc asked me to get all the shots.... flu, pneumonia, shingles. I told him no because 1) why do I need barium, strontium and aluminum in my body and 2) they all include aborted fetal parts in them or in making them. Why do I need that? He had no answer and gave up.
With a little research on your part and when a doctor cant answer you, game over.
Yup