The Keystone removed with the 17th Amendment !!!
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But, we also have mega cities now, which tend blue, and they dominate the rest of the state. I think the city clout is the part that has to be corrected. Even in choosing Senators. The big cities will have more state legislators.
You have a point about concentrated populations. I don't know what we do about that.
I contend we do not have blue cities, we have stolen elections.
Ding ding ding
No. There are true believers. I’ve spoken to way too many of these idiots. They really tow the party line and they’re not few in numbers.
And the older ones actually go vote
There is truth to what you say, but just as important to remember is what Kari Lake says "Biden is president the way O.J. is innocent".
But will they when truth is brought to light?
Exactly. Pay less attention to symptoms and look at root causes. EVERY SINGLE TINY BIT of our problems stem from two things.
#1 - We allowed them to corrupt the education of our children.
#2 - We allowed them to cheat in elections.
You fix those two things and everything else will fix itself.
As a side note the 16th Amendment was a much greater blow to freedom than the 17th.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution
The government needed a way to make money/tax the people. So we handed them a blank check and they told us... don't worry it will only be 1%. The bill of rights is a set of negative rights. The government can not do XYZ to you. That same sort of limitation needs to be added to the 16th. It doesn't need to be repealed but it needs some sort of limitation put on it.
If we limited how much money they could barrow and how much they could take from us then the government would have 1/10th the power it does today and would be half its current size. Instead we spend every election cycle arguing over tax hikes or reductions while they grow large and larger plus put us in so much debt we might never pay it all off.
Article 1 Section 9 Clause 4: No capitation or other direct, Tax shall be laid unless in Proportion to the Census or Enumeration herein before directed to be taken. Property taxes are direct taxes as are income taxes. The 16th Amendment goes against the Constitution and is therefore null and void--as are most, if not all, after the 10th Amendment.
^^ This. Quite possibly true.
I have mixed feelings about that. I used to believe this, but then look at outfits like blackrock and others, buying up every inch of real estate they can. The bad guys are always brilliant at gaming the system.
However, something other than what we currently have - where it's nearly virtually a 'free for all' system. Perhaps supported by those who pay into and support the system, and not those who drain it. Still, there would be issues like the elderly and disabled. It's a hairy situation.
That behavior wasn't taken lightly in the old days. we need to stop forgetting who tells who what to do. if they don't behave as they should i leave it to the populace to decide what happens. these people need to stay right where they are. they begged to be servants, it is high time that we treat them. it shouldn't matter who is in office. they got protection, remove it. they have no claim to such as a right. they willfully choose this life for themselves, begged others for money to convince us to let them serve us... remove everything that they have convinced the past to give to them. if they "work" they get to eat ;)
I like this idea.
God had a few good ideas about that:
Other people have suggested weighting counties. There is nothing that won't be gamed by an opposition though, that I can think of.
I live in Chicago and have come to believe that as blue as it is, the state would vote republican but for the cheating nine times out of ten. That this state has had republican governors at all is astounding given the corruption in Chicago. Someone here recently posted that a 16 unit building in Cook County had something like 432 registered voters.
My downstate friends are always pissed off because they think Chicago's population is what turns it. I can tell you there's no way the deadbeats that would vote for someone like Kim Fox, actually get their ass out of bed to vote. Not in those numbers.
I live in a giant city which has been getting surprisingly blue. The cheating has to be controlled before we even know what the real divisions are.
That’s why I keep arguing for States to have Electoral voting. One county gets one vote each. If we had that in California we would have a more representative Red state.
So I completely agree with this sentiment. I always hear in the counter-argument that the city makes up XX% of the population and gets to have greater influence... yada yada. Here's my issue with that. That undermines 100% of the idea of the most important gov't being local. Take Chicago and IL for example. People in Chicago (because they have gun violence and believe in banning guns) want no one to have guns except the police. Most of IL is farm land, where you would need to shoot an animal to put it down because you are miles away from the next house, let alone veterinarian. Obviously this argument doesn't take into consideration that the 2nd amendment exists. Obviously, everyone should be able to carry a firearm (IAW constitution). This is an argument a lefty could understand. Basically, farmers are forced to live under laws of city folk, where as Chicago could have its own law structure specific to them. When it turns to crap, people will leave and go elsewhere, thus places will figure out individually/ independently what works and what doesn't. Same would hold true comparing suburbia to city or suburbia to rural America.
Most of the counties in cali are red, LA and SF Bay Area rule this state. I have zero representation here. Not to mention the voting has been rigged since before the Dominion machines, especially in the Bay Area.
The fact we have mega cities is why [they] changed the rules re electing Senators.