I’ve been doing fractal manipulation meditations to go into a timeline where everyone wakes up from the spell of allopathic medicine; hopefully this happens soon!
This is how simple the Q plan is. Steer into the wave. And accelerate to clear the storm.
We will lose loved ones, but what we are seeing is nothing to what would have happened if Hillary had won. We would be deep in an open world war {as opposed to a silent world war) while in a ressession and pandemic.
Kinda like the lead up to WW1..... We have their playbook.
I never sat and listened to the entire thing. Can you point me to, or suggest where/when this was discussed? Was this blatantly stated as fact, or was it suggested as a potential/possibility?
What can be done to protect ourselves before we accidentally end up in these modern day gas chambers? I never plan to go to a hospital, but could wake up and find myself in one.
I worried about the same thing. I think the best course of action about this scenario is to make sure you pray about it. Tell our father in Heaven about your fears and trust that he will keep you safe. The man in the video above - God woke him up out of a coma to save his life. 🙏🏻
We pray daily and imagine a spiritual bubble protecting us from harm so that we can do God's will. (i admit, my husband is more disciplined about it -- )
Include all the people you care about.
I suspect they target those they think have little to no family connections (those that appear to be without resources).
Make sure your family always knows your location and have a plan if you are late to your destination.
Well I guess it would help if you didn’t leave your house without your ID. Also why was he in a car accident. Doesn’t say a word about it. If you’re rolling your vehicle there’s a reason for that. I wish there was a way to legitimize his story. I live in Arizona. I’ve never seen so many meth attic‘s, without licenses, insurance, or registration on their vehicles. Even the middle of summer there’s people walking down the street. And 115° weather because they’re loser drug attic’s.
There is a full video interview with him wherein he explains what happened from start to finish. He explains his reason for having the accident and how he extricated himself from being vented.
Watch this interview for the answers to your questions:
Yes I watch the video… There was another post about this about a week ago. Somebody who claims to be a EMT had a lot of interesting things to say about the ability to be able to remove the ventilator, and the catheter. I tend to believe the person that had actual information that kind of goes against what he saying. I don’t know what the truth is, I’m just stating that it’s a little bit SUS. Especially since I live in Arizona and I know all the crazy methods that live here. This place is weird. That’s all there is to it there’s a dark cloud over the state, and a lot of it has to do with the amount of people use drugs here. And it’s not just people out in the streets… It’s doctors, lawyers, moms, you name it… The fact that he didn’t have an ID on him, and got into that accident and didn’t give any details is just makes it less credible.
If you watched the whole video they talk quite a bit about the fact his ID was in the car, just in his jacket which was lying in the car. He also gave plenty of details about the accident in the video. Admitting that he had a little bit to drink and had decided to go home after feeling dizzy at the bar. And multiple times in the video he admits that some of the explanations given to him from the EMTs and others could be valid and make sense at least on their face. Weird thing to do if he's trying to lie and stir up drama.
Edit: My bad. Just realized that your two reply comments were written in the opposite order to what I thought. Thought the comment I replied to was after the comment saying you will watch the video so I thought that was your reaction to it.
OK… I watched the whole video. It is very interesting, and he provided much more information than he did in the first video.
I think the guy doing the interview did a great job. He tried to make things clear, and backed up to ask questions.
Now that I have seen that, I think that he’s probably a person who was using drugs, and was out drinking, and he hadn’t been eating for several days something like that, so he’s probably been using meth. That being said, he could’ve fallen asleep at the wheel if he had stayed up too long. It’s very common to nod out if you’ve been up for a long period of time.
I thought originally he didn’t have his license at all, but he claims it was back in the vehicle in a coat. The fact that the police or the EMT wouldn’t even checked out, chess doesn’t sound believable. However… Apparently he has an eye hospital band that says Jon doe on it. Also his age and date of birth, would lead you to believe he’s elderly and expendable.
I don’t think he had Covid, but the idea of Organ harvesting is definitely a reason to find yourself in the position that he was in. They keep people alive until they’re going to actually harvest the organs. I mean they’re asleep when they take them, well at least here in America I don’t know about China, but they want the organs to be as fresh as possible to be used.
It sounds like to me that God has a plan for his life, and woke him up out of a drugged up sleep, and gave him an opportunity to turn his life around. I hope he takes this seriously, and actually does more than chest interviews for people. I hope he finds Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and that he is aware that he’s been given a second chance at salvation, and at a new life on this planet.
I hope to see something in the future, with some litigation, or some type of investigation as to what occurred. He doesn’t seem like the sharpest tool in the shed, so I hope he’s able to find somebody that can help him, provide him with a platform to bring awareness to maybe organ harvesting. It’s not just about Covid. There’s so much the medical community has been doing to kill us for years.
Thanks for the link to that interview. It helped change my mind at least to this being a more legitimate event that occurred.
I believe the guy. I disagree that he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. You can make reckless choices and still be smart. He was quite coherent, remembered the names of the medications, paid attention to the details, understood the predicament he was in, realized the gravity of it and sought to extricate himself immediately.
His awareness of them listing him as a John Doe with a birth date over 100, meant bad news for him and he was right to question how it was that they were able to contact his sister, even though they claimed they didn't have his ID. So many red flags in what they did to him.
He did a very good job of describing how the event unfolded, including all the details that would allow us to confirm it.
I would like to know more details, like what hospital was it? I know he said Flagstaff, but I am assuming there is more than 1 hospital there.
Where was the car crash? If he was fine besides some scratches, like he claims, then he has the right to refuse treatment. They would have him sign an AMA and be on their way. Was it fire EMS or a private company?
If his story is to be believed, then it all seems to have started with EMS. I have a hard time believing they are in on it like the hospitals are. I just don't see the benefit or incentive for them.
Very interesting though. I do not doubt it, he seems sincere. Just some things need clarification in my opinion.
Either way, his story is horrific and really makes me want nothing to do with anything to do with the medical field. There is absolutely no trust there anymore.
You're right to be skeptical.
If he is believed to be intoxicated, or belligerent at the scene, EMS has a responsibility to sedate him and get him to the hospital to ensure he has no life threatening injuries. Being combative and fighting is a sign of Head injury, which he clearly did, as he says "he woke up". He lost consciousness during the accident.
People that act combative when given alcohol or sedatives tend to pull out breathing tubes. This implies they are not aware enough to fully assess that they are intubated.
This whole thing is common.
Every drunk asshoe who crashes his car gets this
I am a Doctor. I deal with Trauma patients ALL the time in the ER.
This guy describes what I've seen and done a million times.
We only do this stuff to rule out any life threatening injuries.
A belligerent drunk guy after a car crash can't tell you he's bleeding from his liver. Someone who is combative because of head injury won't obviously show signs his cracked and bleeding spleen, until he loses his vital signs.
Thank you for giving a different perspective. I agree that not all of it is a giant conspiracy.
There is ALOT of bullshit going on though, which deepens peoples emotions and thoughts on the matter. Especially in a situation where you have no control, like waking up in a hospital.
What you are saying seems reasonable. It is still nothing I want to experience. Especially these days with the total corruption and complete lack of transparency in government and big medical.
That was a good watch and very informative, thanks for the video.
There is definitely suspicion all around this story. I tend to believe him. How much shady shit have they been getting away with over the years?
The catheter thing is kind of a point that stands out to me though. Because to my knowledge they inflate a small balloon to keep it in place and need to deflate it to remove it. People do pull them out and that has got to suck, but with the balloon inflated it does some damage.
I know he said how awful it was to pull out, and that he was bleeding pretty bad, but I feel he sort of glossed over that aspect. I imagine his urine sample to leave the hospital wasn't very fun at all.
I assume there was plenty of blood in it as well. That would be something else the medical staff would be able to hold over his head to keep him there.
But maybe they just knew they were caught and tried to wash their hands with the situation, or save face.
I definitely think everyone involved in his story needs to answer for their actions. All the weird inconsistencies, like the hospital having his sisters phone number and not asking for any sort of clarification of who he was before letting him leave.
Maybe they knew the government would pay his bill anyway because of the "covid" and vent addition. But that life flight is usually over $50,000 and someone is going to want to know where to send that bill. They usually have no connection to the hospital.
Yet if your oxygen saturation’s start dipping into the 60s your heart rate goes up. I had a Covid patient who we knew didn’t want intubation but the high flow oxygen was turned all the way up. He couldn’t catch his breath, breath rate 50 per minute.
We drew labs and EKG because chest pain, his heart rate 200s consistently. (Your heart pumps faster to get the oxygen out to the body, it compensates)
His labs showed the enzyme we check for when you have a heart attack. His heart was exhausted.
He asked what could be done and we said to put the tube in so it can push air harder. Otherwise he would have just coded and died of a heart attack anyway. He knew it, his chest was on fire. Those were his words.
He finally asked for the vent. That guy came back after the ICU and is doing better. We keep cheering him on.
So you can say no to the vent, but then there’s reality. What else would you do to treat this patient? Let us know and I will start giving others these options.
No one has a better answer. These people would die anyway with loss of consciousness, stroke or heart attack. Your body needs oxygen.
The damage done to his body before he needed a vent leads to poor outcomes.
You crash your car in a lake, you inhale water- someone pulls you out and does CPR. Yet, how long were you without oxygen? People can survive better if it was freezing water, but people can end up with brain damage.
This same damage to your body happens when you have consistent low oxygen levels. You just halved your oxygen needs for an hour and killed brain cells, the clock is ticking. Your cardiac function is declining, heart is starving for oxygen.
That damage is already done, you have to wait and see if the body can repair itself.
If you’ve gone too long without oxygen, and have other damage going on from an infection - needing the vent is a sign you aren’t doing well because it’s literally the last thing that can be done to restore oxygen levels.
There is no alternative.
Maybe someone will come up with a better option. High flow oxygen wasn’t in use before and that’s keeping people off vents.
Sometimes it us that need to solve problems. Some smart doctor or scientist needs to come up with a better treatment, but like I said, if you need that treatment it means your body is in crisis and damage has been done.
Could chest compression force enough air in and out to accomplish the same thing as ventilating? (I believe relatives and friends would be more than happy to keep non-stop chest compressions if it was a viable alternative to venting :)) And what about the old "iron lungs" they used for polio patients?
Isn't the thing with covid, peoples' lungs fill with fluid? If you don't do anything to get rid of the fluid in the lungs, forcing air in is just going to damage them.
All the people that die in the hospital on the vent due to "covid" are literally being murdered for blood money.
Do we have anything to go on besides what he's saying? Can he show valid medical records from the hospital, EMS, or even a dispatch log from 911 that medics and fire rescue was dispatched to his accident? At this point I need to see actual evidence and not conjecture and hearsay because in court that's all this is.
When I was sick with an infection last month, there was no way I was going to the hospital. When my wife’s chronic pancreatitis flared up 2 weeks ago, she refused to go to the hospital and touched it out while under the care of a trusted internist that saved her life several times before. If we went, both of us would be 6 feet under by now. It’s a shame that we live in an age where going to the hospital when sick is a bad idea.
There have been a lot of focus on people using the ERs as primary care. We’ve tried to educate people that the ER is for emergencies.
People are misusing it. An emergency means you can’t breathe, you are in a critical state at that moment.
Your issues should have been addressed out of the hospital. Clinics are the main way to get care. People never should have gone to an ER if they can sit there and wait.
Hospitals get patients through doctor referrals from clinic and if a patient comes in in a critical state.
For too long people have used the ERs as primary treatment.
Hospitals should be used only in an emergency. It’s good to see people realize they should try other outpatient alternatives. We have warned that hospitals are dangerous places, there are resistant bugs crawling around and actually the hospitals are closing.
They only want clinics and outpatient surgery centers. In the future there will be at home hospital models and patients will be doing more for themselves. The old model of go to a hospital when you feel sick is over, and hospitals themselves have tried to force it.
I hope you both are feeling better, that’s great you both recovered and is a testament to what I’m saying. Most people don’t need to run to a hospital when they feel sick.
When my wife was suffering with her flare-up of pancreatitis, her temperature went up to 102.7. At 3 in the morning, that's ER time. We dealt with it with meds we had on hand, ice bags, and going to her MD first thing in the morning. Even if her MD recommended admitting to one of our local hospitals, we would not have gone in this day and age.
You're damn lucky to still be here. My blood oxygen is around 95 with a diaper on my face, 98 without. Yet these supposedly medical professionals don't realize that the diaper inhibits the amount and quality of air you breathe in.
OP, can you please let me know if we get more info on this guy? As others have pointed out, we need to remain skeptical before knowing the full story with documentation. I want to share this, but I won’t until I know more. What was his bac?
Hospitals are getting incentives for venting people. This MUST stop
Big Pharma/CDC have restricted and banned treatments that actually work to treat Covid. But when people cannot get the treatments, and have to get to the hospital when they can no longer breathe, then you get doctors and nurses who complain about the Covid patients and defend their actions. This, too must stop. Make the treatments readily available. Allow families back in the hospitals to be able to advocate for their loved ones. Stop the insanity.
I work in a hospital because not enough people are interested in preventative models, so I quit trying to run my own practice.
I specialize in holistic teaching and keeping people out of the hospital. This is a main focus in hospital care, we teach people to be compliant and how to manage their health so they don’t come back.
No one likes to see the poor health of Americans.
I personally have only been to a hospital when my kids were born. They are for some specialties but most misuse the hospital for primary care, or ignore a health problem that could be treated at a clinic.
The behavior of Americans is to ignore their health and run to a hospital. By that time their body is in a bad state.
What did people do before hospitals were so big?
They will need to do that now.
But there is also the responsibility of the public. Americans have rates of disease like third world countries even though we spend the most on healthcare.
Rates of diabetes, obesity, alcoholism and addiction. Untreated mental health leads to problems. People don’t get up in the morning and strategize their health. They never read books or take classes on the body that they are responsible for.
They simply wait and then get mad that things aren’t going their way when they put absolutely zero effort into one thing, like eating healthy even, even just that Americans can’t handle.
So when we look at who is to blame for all these shitty hospital outcomes, a lot of people like to point fingers. Your body, your responsibility.
I shouldn’t say all people are like this. The people who are encouraging you to manage your health on your own are right.
Many of these responsible people exist and are great role models.
They are closing the hospitals, that’s part of the plan for 2025.
When Medicare cuts rates as is scheduled in 2024, hospitals will be offering emergency services and switching to virtual care models. They want clinics and outpatient care, outpatient surgery.
By 2030 hospitals will be close aside from a small emergency department that will not take walk ins and an ICU. OB may have overnight stays, and that’s about it.
People will be managed at home and people themselves will be in charge, responsible.
The doctors are taught to throw medication at a problem. They pay lip service to diet and exercise.
Fast food is cheaper than preparing and cooking a meal. Not everybody has the time to cook, or the know how. It's a terrible self-sustaining cycle of people with shitty diets going to the doctor for problems relating to the shitty diet and no exercise.
Add in constant outside pressure, and you have a recipe for medical genocide.
Its not gonna be good when thousands of normies wake up and realize their loved ones were murdered in a hospital for money.
Event 201 predicted that the public would eventually turn on health care providers.
Since they knew this would happen, it appears to be part of the plan.
I’ve been doing fractal manipulation meditations to go into a timeline where everyone wakes up from the spell of allopathic medicine; hopefully this happens soon!
This is how simple the Q plan is. Steer into the wave. And accelerate to clear the storm.
We will lose loved ones, but what we are seeing is nothing to what would have happened if Hillary had won. We would be deep in an open world war {as opposed to a silent world war) while in a ressession and pandemic.
Kinda like the lead up to WW1..... We have their playbook.
I never sat and listened to the entire thing. Can you point me to, or suggest where/when this was discussed? Was this blatantly stated as fact, or was it suggested as a potential/possibility?
What can be done to protect ourselves before we accidentally end up in these modern day gas chambers? I never plan to go to a hospital, but could wake up and find myself in one.
I worried about the same thing. I think the best course of action about this scenario is to make sure you pray about it. Tell our father in Heaven about your fears and trust that he will keep you safe. The man in the video above - God woke him up out of a coma to save his life. 🙏🏻
Pull a Shameless, tattoo your chest. "DO NOT VENTILATE"
We pray daily and imagine a spiritual bubble protecting us from harm so that we can do God's will. (i admit, my husband is more disciplined about it -- )
Include all the people you care about.
I suspect they target those they think have little to no family connections (those that appear to be without resources).
Make sure your family always knows your location and have a plan if you are late to your destination.
God bless.
Well I guess it would help if you didn’t leave your house without your ID. Also why was he in a car accident. Doesn’t say a word about it. If you’re rolling your vehicle there’s a reason for that. I wish there was a way to legitimize his story. I live in Arizona. I’ve never seen so many meth attic‘s, without licenses, insurance, or registration on their vehicles. Even the middle of summer there’s people walking down the street. And 115° weather because they’re loser drug attic’s.
There is a full video interview with him wherein he explains what happened from start to finish. He explains his reason for having the accident and how he extricated himself from being vented.
Watch this interview for the answers to your questions:
https://www.independentconservative.com/2022/02/03/benjamin-ben-gordons-first-interview-man-who-extubated-himself-and-escaped-a-covid-death-protocol/
I take it all back I didn’t see this video I’m gonna watch it first and see what he has to say before a comment further.
Yes I watch the video… There was another post about this about a week ago. Somebody who claims to be a EMT had a lot of interesting things to say about the ability to be able to remove the ventilator, and the catheter. I tend to believe the person that had actual information that kind of goes against what he saying. I don’t know what the truth is, I’m just stating that it’s a little bit SUS. Especially since I live in Arizona and I know all the crazy methods that live here. This place is weird. That’s all there is to it there’s a dark cloud over the state, and a lot of it has to do with the amount of people use drugs here. And it’s not just people out in the streets… It’s doctors, lawyers, moms, you name it… The fact that he didn’t have an ID on him, and got into that accident and didn’t give any details is just makes it less credible.
If you watched the whole video they talk quite a bit about the fact his ID was in the car, just in his jacket which was lying in the car. He also gave plenty of details about the accident in the video. Admitting that he had a little bit to drink and had decided to go home after feeling dizzy at the bar. And multiple times in the video he admits that some of the explanations given to him from the EMTs and others could be valid and make sense at least on their face. Weird thing to do if he's trying to lie and stir up drama.
Edit: My bad. Just realized that your two reply comments were written in the opposite order to what I thought. Thought the comment I replied to was after the comment saying you will watch the video so I thought that was your reaction to it.
Yes after watching the full video, I’ve changed my stance. It’s more believable now definitely.
What the thing is, and speaking from somebody who would know… Staying up for days and doing drugs, never ends well. We’ll just leave it at that.
That was many moons for me, but that’s just the one thing that stuck out, probably because I know. Wink wink nod nod!
OK… I watched the whole video. It is very interesting, and he provided much more information than he did in the first video.
I think the guy doing the interview did a great job. He tried to make things clear, and backed up to ask questions.
Now that I have seen that, I think that he’s probably a person who was using drugs, and was out drinking, and he hadn’t been eating for several days something like that, so he’s probably been using meth. That being said, he could’ve fallen asleep at the wheel if he had stayed up too long. It’s very common to nod out if you’ve been up for a long period of time.
I thought originally he didn’t have his license at all, but he claims it was back in the vehicle in a coat. The fact that the police or the EMT wouldn’t even checked out, chess doesn’t sound believable. However… Apparently he has an eye hospital band that says Jon doe on it. Also his age and date of birth, would lead you to believe he’s elderly and expendable.
I don’t think he had Covid, but the idea of Organ harvesting is definitely a reason to find yourself in the position that he was in. They keep people alive until they’re going to actually harvest the organs. I mean they’re asleep when they take them, well at least here in America I don’t know about China, but they want the organs to be as fresh as possible to be used.
It sounds like to me that God has a plan for his life, and woke him up out of a drugged up sleep, and gave him an opportunity to turn his life around. I hope he takes this seriously, and actually does more than chest interviews for people. I hope he finds Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior, and that he is aware that he’s been given a second chance at salvation, and at a new life on this planet.
I hope to see something in the future, with some litigation, or some type of investigation as to what occurred. He doesn’t seem like the sharpest tool in the shed, so I hope he’s able to find somebody that can help him, provide him with a platform to bring awareness to maybe organ harvesting. It’s not just about Covid. There’s so much the medical community has been doing to kill us for years.
Thanks for the link to that interview. It helped change my mind at least to this being a more legitimate event that occurred.
I believe the guy. I disagree that he's not the sharpest tool in the shed. You can make reckless choices and still be smart. He was quite coherent, remembered the names of the medications, paid attention to the details, understood the predicament he was in, realized the gravity of it and sought to extricate himself immediately.
His awareness of them listing him as a John Doe with a birth date over 100, meant bad news for him and he was right to question how it was that they were able to contact his sister, even though they claimed they didn't have his ID. So many red flags in what they did to him.
He did a very good job of describing how the event unfolded, including all the details that would allow us to confirm it.
Don’t know what tf going on with this situation after reading this so I think I will just move on.
I would like to know more details, like what hospital was it? I know he said Flagstaff, but I am assuming there is more than 1 hospital there.
Where was the car crash? If he was fine besides some scratches, like he claims, then he has the right to refuse treatment. They would have him sign an AMA and be on their way. Was it fire EMS or a private company?
If his story is to be believed, then it all seems to have started with EMS. I have a hard time believing they are in on it like the hospitals are. I just don't see the benefit or incentive for them.
Very interesting though. I do not doubt it, he seems sincere. Just some things need clarification in my opinion.
Either way, his story is horrific and really makes me want nothing to do with anything to do with the medical field. There is absolutely no trust there anymore.
You're right to be skeptical. If he is believed to be intoxicated, or belligerent at the scene, EMS has a responsibility to sedate him and get him to the hospital to ensure he has no life threatening injuries. Being combative and fighting is a sign of Head injury, which he clearly did, as he says "he woke up". He lost consciousness during the accident. People that act combative when given alcohol or sedatives tend to pull out breathing tubes. This implies they are not aware enough to fully assess that they are intubated. This whole thing is common. Every drunk asshoe who crashes his car gets this
Please let me know if you get more info. You make good points. I am refraining from sharing this for now.
I am a Doctor. I deal with Trauma patients ALL the time in the ER. This guy describes what I've seen and done a million times.
We only do this stuff to rule out any life threatening injuries.
A belligerent drunk guy after a car crash can't tell you he's bleeding from his liver. Someone who is combative because of head injury won't obviously show signs his cracked and bleeding spleen, until he loses his vital signs.
Not everything thing we do is a COVID conspiracy
Thank you for giving a different perspective. I agree that not all of it is a giant conspiracy.
There is ALOT of bullshit going on though, which deepens peoples emotions and thoughts on the matter. Especially in a situation where you have no control, like waking up in a hospital.
What you are saying seems reasonable. It is still nothing I want to experience. Especially these days with the total corruption and complete lack of transparency in government and big medical.
Thanks; makes sense
Watch this much longer interview he did for the answers to your questions:
https://www.independentconservative.com/2022/02/03/benjamin-ben-gordons-first-interview-man-who-extubated-himself-and-escaped-a-covid-death-protocol/
See my comment above. Watch the 39 minute interview he had with the Independent Conservative. It explains everything.
That was a good watch and very informative, thanks for the video.
There is definitely suspicion all around this story. I tend to believe him. How much shady shit have they been getting away with over the years?
The catheter thing is kind of a point that stands out to me though. Because to my knowledge they inflate a small balloon to keep it in place and need to deflate it to remove it. People do pull them out and that has got to suck, but with the balloon inflated it does some damage.
I know he said how awful it was to pull out, and that he was bleeding pretty bad, but I feel he sort of glossed over that aspect. I imagine his urine sample to leave the hospital wasn't very fun at all.
I assume there was plenty of blood in it as well. That would be something else the medical staff would be able to hold over his head to keep him there.
But maybe they just knew they were caught and tried to wash their hands with the situation, or save face.
I definitely think everyone involved in his story needs to answer for their actions. All the weird inconsistencies, like the hospital having his sisters phone number and not asking for any sort of clarification of who he was before letting him leave.
Maybe they knew the government would pay his bill anyway because of the "covid" and vent addition. But that life flight is usually over $50,000 and someone is going to want to know where to send that bill. They usually have no connection to the hospital.
I tried to search for discussion of whether someone could pull out their own intubation tube, and came across this article: (they knew that 1/3 of intubated elderly patients died from it even before covid!) . https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/22/health/breathing-tubes-intubation-older-patients.html
Yet if your oxygen saturation’s start dipping into the 60s your heart rate goes up. I had a Covid patient who we knew didn’t want intubation but the high flow oxygen was turned all the way up. He couldn’t catch his breath, breath rate 50 per minute.
We drew labs and EKG because chest pain, his heart rate 200s consistently. (Your heart pumps faster to get the oxygen out to the body, it compensates)
His labs showed the enzyme we check for when you have a heart attack. His heart was exhausted.
He asked what could be done and we said to put the tube in so it can push air harder. Otherwise he would have just coded and died of a heart attack anyway. He knew it, his chest was on fire. Those were his words.
He finally asked for the vent. That guy came back after the ICU and is doing better. We keep cheering him on.
So you can say no to the vent, but then there’s reality. What else would you do to treat this patient? Let us know and I will start giving others these options.
No one has a better answer. These people would die anyway with loss of consciousness, stroke or heart attack. Your body needs oxygen.
The damage done to his body before he needed a vent leads to poor outcomes.
You crash your car in a lake, you inhale water- someone pulls you out and does CPR. Yet, how long were you without oxygen? People can survive better if it was freezing water, but people can end up with brain damage.
This same damage to your body happens when you have consistent low oxygen levels. You just halved your oxygen needs for an hour and killed brain cells, the clock is ticking. Your cardiac function is declining, heart is starving for oxygen.
That damage is already done, you have to wait and see if the body can repair itself.
If you’ve gone too long without oxygen, and have other damage going on from an infection - needing the vent is a sign you aren’t doing well because it’s literally the last thing that can be done to restore oxygen levels.
There is no alternative.
Maybe someone will come up with a better option. High flow oxygen wasn’t in use before and that’s keeping people off vents.
Sometimes it us that need to solve problems. Some smart doctor or scientist needs to come up with a better treatment, but like I said, if you need that treatment it means your body is in crisis and damage has been done.
Could chest compression force enough air in and out to accomplish the same thing as ventilating? (I believe relatives and friends would be more than happy to keep non-stop chest compressions if it was a viable alternative to venting :)) And what about the old "iron lungs" they used for polio patients?
An EMS crew can perform compressions for only a limited time before being exhausted.
Lucas device can be used but could have limited duration.
Isn't the thing with covid, peoples' lungs fill with fluid? If you don't do anything to get rid of the fluid in the lungs, forcing air in is just going to damage them.
All the people that die in the hospital on the vent due to "covid" are literally being murdered for blood money.
Do we have anything to go on besides what he's saying? Can he show valid medical records from the hospital, EMS, or even a dispatch log from 911 that medics and fire rescue was dispatched to his accident? At this point I need to see actual evidence and not conjecture and hearsay because in court that's all this is.
In one video, he said he had requested his records and signed the release. So we will see. I am waiting for that too.
Please let me know if you find more info. I am refraining from sharing this for now.
Watch this interview for the answers to your questions:
https://www.independentconservative.com/2022/02/03/benjamin-ben-gordons-first-interview-man-who-extubated-himself-and-escaped-a-covid-death-protocol/
Here is an interesting discussion among nurses regarding people pulling out their own tubes: .
https://allnurses.com/use-restraints-intubated-patients-t435617/
These people really are monsters. They could care less about the patient. Their sole focus is on covering their own ass.
When I was sick with an infection last month, there was no way I was going to the hospital. When my wife’s chronic pancreatitis flared up 2 weeks ago, she refused to go to the hospital and touched it out while under the care of a trusted internist that saved her life several times before. If we went, both of us would be 6 feet under by now. It’s a shame that we live in an age where going to the hospital when sick is a bad idea.
There have been a lot of focus on people using the ERs as primary care. We’ve tried to educate people that the ER is for emergencies.
People are misusing it. An emergency means you can’t breathe, you are in a critical state at that moment.
Your issues should have been addressed out of the hospital. Clinics are the main way to get care. People never should have gone to an ER if they can sit there and wait.
Hospitals get patients through doctor referrals from clinic and if a patient comes in in a critical state.
For too long people have used the ERs as primary treatment.
Hospitals should be used only in an emergency. It’s good to see people realize they should try other outpatient alternatives. We have warned that hospitals are dangerous places, there are resistant bugs crawling around and actually the hospitals are closing.
They only want clinics and outpatient surgery centers. In the future there will be at home hospital models and patients will be doing more for themselves. The old model of go to a hospital when you feel sick is over, and hospitals themselves have tried to force it.
I hope you both are feeling better, that’s great you both recovered and is a testament to what I’m saying. Most people don’t need to run to a hospital when they feel sick.
When my wife was suffering with her flare-up of pancreatitis, her temperature went up to 102.7. At 3 in the morning, that's ER time. We dealt with it with meds we had on hand, ice bags, and going to her MD first thing in the morning. Even if her MD recommended admitting to one of our local hospitals, we would not have gone in this day and age.
They had plans to intubate me when my blood 02 was 95.
You're damn lucky to still be here. My blood oxygen is around 95 with a diaper on my face, 98 without. Yet these supposedly medical professionals don't realize that the diaper inhibits the amount and quality of air you breathe in.
Just how educated are they really?
OP, can you please let me know if we get more info on this guy? As others have pointed out, we need to remain skeptical before knowing the full story with documentation. I want to share this, but I won’t until I know more. What was his bac?
Why are the "doctors" and admins walking around free, unafraid of the world?
Hospitals are getting incentives for venting people. This MUST stop Big Pharma/CDC have restricted and banned treatments that actually work to treat Covid. But when people cannot get the treatments, and have to get to the hospital when they can no longer breathe, then you get doctors and nurses who complain about the Covid patients and defend their actions. This, too must stop. Make the treatments readily available. Allow families back in the hospitals to be able to advocate for their loved ones. Stop the insanity.
He was on STG Report today.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/CUizYKdkCGSt/
Hospitals, doctors and Big Pharma were never to be trusted. Medicine is natural.
I work in a hospital because not enough people are interested in preventative models, so I quit trying to run my own practice.
I specialize in holistic teaching and keeping people out of the hospital. This is a main focus in hospital care, we teach people to be compliant and how to manage their health so they don’t come back.
No one likes to see the poor health of Americans.
I personally have only been to a hospital when my kids were born. They are for some specialties but most misuse the hospital for primary care, or ignore a health problem that could be treated at a clinic.
The behavior of Americans is to ignore their health and run to a hospital. By that time their body is in a bad state.
What did people do before hospitals were so big?
They will need to do that now.
But there is also the responsibility of the public. Americans have rates of disease like third world countries even though we spend the most on healthcare.
Rates of diabetes, obesity, alcoholism and addiction. Untreated mental health leads to problems. People don’t get up in the morning and strategize their health. They never read books or take classes on the body that they are responsible for.
They simply wait and then get mad that things aren’t going their way when they put absolutely zero effort into one thing, like eating healthy even, even just that Americans can’t handle.
So when we look at who is to blame for all these shitty hospital outcomes, a lot of people like to point fingers. Your body, your responsibility.
I shouldn’t say all people are like this. The people who are encouraging you to manage your health on your own are right.
Many of these responsible people exist and are great role models.
They are closing the hospitals, that’s part of the plan for 2025.
When Medicare cuts rates as is scheduled in 2024, hospitals will be offering emergency services and switching to virtual care models. They want clinics and outpatient care, outpatient surgery.
By 2030 hospitals will be close aside from a small emergency department that will not take walk ins and an ICU. OB may have overnight stays, and that’s about it.
People will be managed at home and people themselves will be in charge, responsible.
The doctors are taught to throw medication at a problem. They pay lip service to diet and exercise.
Fast food is cheaper than preparing and cooking a meal. Not everybody has the time to cook, or the know how. It's a terrible self-sustaining cycle of people with shitty diets going to the doctor for problems relating to the shitty diet and no exercise.
Add in constant outside pressure, and you have a recipe for medical genocide.
Try them in court after deep state falls.
Much more information is needed before I pass judgment on the hospital.
I totally agree. Btw I must be really tired because I initially read your name as Tampon Anon and had to do a good double take.
Not so bad, I read vax tyranny flair as vax tranny.🙄😁😂