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It's all SEMANTICS. The US does not have bioweapons labs. Ukraine "owns" those labs, we just fund and operate and own all the pathogens created.
I think the semantics are in the word "weapons". What's the need for a weapons lab if you can just leak deadly pathogens out of a research lab?
Correct. It is a game of semantics. Just like when Rand Paul cornered Fauci on "gain of function research." Fauci ignored the entire premise of the question to argue the meaning of gain of function.
If you want to trace back this BS liberal logic, look no further than Bill Clinton's deposition re: Monica Lewinsky.
Good points.
So... having samples of Bubonic Plague at our labs in Ukraine was just a mistake?
Then who ordered the shipment of thousands of fleas delivered to that same facility?
You can study a plague sample in a test tube, or look at it under a microscope. But what were the fleas going to be used for?
The russian military first said bubonic plague and anthrax. Then it came out that they found traces of bat coronavirus. And the latest theory that led from this, is that covid-19 was invented/developed in ukraine at these labs, and then transferred to the wuhan lab to lay a false trail for any forensic investigators.. who would of course suspect china. And supposedly there are a lot more labs in taiwan, which china is threatening to invade.. perhaps these labs are a large part of the reason, above and beyond any territorial claims. Which makes taiwan perhaps a malicious (or puppeted by malicious people) actor.
Then again, china certainly posted huge amounts of covid-19 propaganda videos with people collapsing in the streets, teams in full hazmat suits carrying around bodies, people screaming and getting the doors of their buildings welded shut, and threatening nuclear weaponry against anyone investigating the origins of covid. None of which cast them in any positive light.
Getting bigger and bigger the more details come out.. maybe this is just the beginning.
It is crazy how this is unfolding Ukraine is to mother Russia what Taiwan is to ccp so its pretty ingenious to stage these labs in these countries already knowing the world will sympathize with them bc of muh mSm brainwashing over the last 60 years...seems we are learning putin is not the bad guy and maybe Xi isn't the bad guy either
Looking like DS and CCP
What a time to be alive
If we go by the theory that both Putin and Xi are good guys, and Trump was of course as well..
Then russia has nearby biolabs that threaten them in ukraine, china has biolabs nearby that threaten them in taiwan... so are there biolabs in either mexico or canada that are positioned to threaten the US? Maybe Trudeau is worried about a lot more than truckers and the honkening.. since presumably mexico is too politically fraught to have the stability needed to build something like this up.
nice angle here we all know trudope is DS commie scum as they get
Probably more dogma.
kekma
Bubonic plague isn't really that deadly. A number of cases occur in the US and around the world every year. Simple antibiotics make one well again anymore. Difference is that in the 1500s there were no antibiotics, so it was much more deadly.
it could also be used to 187 people without anyone the wiser.
Well of course they don’t call them “biological weapons labs”... did the Department of State hire a Snopes “fact checker”?
They’re “health facilities” bigot!
Trying to get ahead of today's UN Security Council meeting where Russia plans to reveal all. Should be entertaining.... IF the media will even cover it. Our media, however doesn't COVER news, it COVERS it up.
Haven't heard 1 word from any msm sources 🤔
you wont. they are too busy going bonerific for the same images and videos that have been debunked, from different angles of their propaganda campaign -_-
Methinks they do protest too much....
That could well be true but you need to think like a lawyer. You may exert control over something without actually owning it. You can fund something without owning it.
It is one of the reasons non-profit orgabisations are so popular. For instance, Soros can create the Open Society Foundation then claim everything they do is not done by him.
My guess is that Victoria Nuland was responding to questions in Congress knowing how the bio-labs system worked but since then, the lawyers got involved and stories were aligned between the US and Ukraine so now they are all singing from the same hymn-sheet and they agree the US does not have bio-labs in Ukraine.
They can say that because the US government does not hold the deeds to the lab properties and neither are government officials in charge of the labs. It is just that certain funding agreements are in place and certain work is underway to justify that financial input.
"My client didn't make a weapon. He made bullets, gunpowder and a device to softly launch them."
Allow me to interrupt. This device your client made to launch the bullets is also known as a gun, correct?
"You're calling it a gun. We are not."
I like what they do with the "spy" word. Everyone will pooh-pooh the idea of spies but will quite happily talk about "confidential human sources".
Plus 10% for the big guy!
Smell it, hell we are wading through it.
Wording. "Does not develop or possess chemical or biological WEAPONS anywhere." They're not lying. They don't develop "weapons". Do they use bioweapons in war? Of course not. But biological specimens do tend to escape from these labs at opportune moments. It's probably just coincidence though.
To be super technical it says "does not possess chemical AND biological weapons anywhere"
Which legally and logically is much different than "does not possess chemical OR biological weapons anywhere."
Basically what they stated by saying AND is that nowhere do they possess biological or chemical weapons at the same time, together. That statement would be technically true if they did have bio weapons at one place and chemical at another but not both at the same time.
I found it very odd they stated it that way.
Most people would say or, but they said and.
Any pede with a 101 logic/philosophy/programming class under there belt will understand that AND and OR are very different things and the language matters a lot when it comes to law.
Ah. I wasn't thinking about it that way at all. But that is an excellent observation. I was more or less thinking that the things they store are not expressly intended to be used as weapons and therefore are not classified as such. Even though the potential of weaponizing the biological organisms exists, they are not technically weapons in their current form.
Me smells PANIC
Also veterinary research facilities so they get away with basically anything and the DoD funding is for "biological defense".
Hey state department! You got no credibility from the last stack of lies. So what is your STORY now.
Just add the following to the begining of the tweet:
"As of today..."
Well, not anymore.
What a weird thing for the State Department to tweet out of nowhere.
That means you don't have Covid. Consider yourself free.
Contracted through Eco-labs 'shell company ' FOR the US Gov't and overseen by Fauci and others! Recall Fauci by-passed DOD for gain of function lab in Wuhan. Same thing in Ukraine...
They wouldn't lie, would they??? Come on, man.
Hey State Department, do you have ANY INVOLVEMENT at all in these labs? <<<crickets>>>
How dare you all fall for Russian propaganda, these are biological samples of peace and prosperity
We all know. The cabal posseses them. Americans have zip to Do with it except for the money stolen from us to fund it.
no, they don't (currently).
the russians have removed them.
They are probably technically telling the truth. They have all the pathogens developed, just haven't weaponized them yet, which is the easy part.
The semantics of it...
This is TRUE, because they only have biological weapons labs in Ukraine, not chemical and biological
The science is settled. OBEY
No, the Russians have destroyed the evidence for us.
Did they destroy all of them?
I was wondering what happens when you blow up a bio-weapon lab?
I am assuming the Russians know how to handle this problem without creating more damage by releasing something while destroying the bioweapons.
There is this thing call "follow the money" once that is done, you will know who's actually in control of those sites. Someone built it, someone delivered stuff, it was flown or shipped there, there is always a way to trace things back. people got paid to work their or deliver stuff.
dont worry! Jen is on it!
you think we have them!!! but we DONT! well? we MAY HAVE THEM. but we are NOT doing anything! ok ok..we may have SOME but we are not doing anything illegal. yahh umm...so we do have labs? and some things MAY look shady? and stuff? but it's totally cool. hey yah hi umm..we have labs ok? ok? you happy ? and we are doing fucked up things IN those labs but i can ASSURE YOU it's totally fine.
xD
Whats that poooo aroma I'm getting a distinctive woooft of?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2001_anthrax_attacks