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I don't see a brutal Russian advance on a civilian population in Ukraine. I believe we are watching a scorched-earth withdrawal by the Ukrainian Army.
posted 4 years ago by Oh_Well_ian 4 years ago by Oh_Well_ian +161 / -0

The elephant in the room regarding all of this is the total absence of United States satellite imagery to prop up this false narrative.

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– Oceanside_Patriot 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

Anything you see on western media is fake af. I admit I dont know what exactly is going on, but I trust Russia at their word far more than the west

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

I believe a good starting point is to invert their conclusions and narratives.

Sort of like the Seinfeld episode when George started doing everything the opposite and it completely turned his life around.

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– ILearnedToCode 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

"Hire this man"

Love that episode!

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

"My name is George, I'm unemployed and I live at home with my parents."

Key takeaway from this episode was not that George was doing the opposite, but he was telling the TRUTH

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– inquimous 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes. He was such a cringy liar, that was the whole basis of his every problem.

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– NeuroticFisherman 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You're not thinking critically if you just automatically take the opposite position of the MSM. If you just automatically take the other side, MSM is still directing and controlling your thinking, just in the opposite way. MSM does in fact report on true things at least sometimes. Use more discernment and don't just offload thinking about things to the MSM.

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I said it was a good starting point. You're not thinking clearly if you're going to distort what I said to make your point.

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– TSearch 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Boom! You are so right! As far back as the 1962 Cuban Missile crisis the U.S. Government has used high altitude reconnaissance imagery to back their claims. Fast forward to the U.S. justification to invade Iraq and we have Colin Powell presenting satellite imagery as proof of WMD’s.

Now we have no government satellite imagery of the Russian build up, invasion, or ongoing operations. We did have private satellite imagery of a 40 mile long Russian military convoy patiently waiting for something. Probably preparing a siege of Kiev to cause minimal damage and casualties.

But all we hear from our current and former officials is the Russians are committing atrocities. But simultaneously we are told they are incompetent because the tiny Ukrainian Army is holding them at bay.

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– Irishman4Trump4 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

^ this! And a sniper from Canada is coming! Wait, he has to log into Zoom to get directions from Biden and his team because he’s an influencer. Give me fucking break. Apologies for my swearing

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

99% of the vehicles in the early satellite imagery looked like transport trucks. Probably carrying massive amounts of Aid for the Ukrainian people.

Of course, if they were real.

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– TSearch 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I think they are real. I can’t see how admitting there was a convoy that huge helps or fits the DS narrative.

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– Deplorabledave1957 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

A convoy that has advance 5 miles in 2 wks ? Is it a convoy of turtles ?

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– Andy_Man45 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yes, the US has every reason in the world to use satellite imagery to prove that Russia is the bad guy but they don't.

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– DeathRayDesigner 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Probably engaging Ukrainian forces that are embedded in neighborhoods to have human shields. Human shield tactics are war crimes.

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– NeuroticFisherman 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

So the solution to the enemy using human shields if to go ahead and shoot the human shields? The real thing to do would be try to consider other options. Just because the enemy does something bad doesn't mean the other side should just sink down to that level and help kill civilians.

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– DeathRayDesigner 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The law of war was established to identify responsibility and culpability. EACH side is responsible for segregating its armed forces from its population. To deliberately intermingle them is a war crime. To fire upon attacking forces, per se, is not. This is why Russia is not attempting to storm the cities, but to hold them under siege until the city authorities capitulate or they can infiltrate forces to eliminate the armed threat. Otherwise, you are approving of the doctrine of human shields.

The solution is to shoot the enemy and show them that such shields are no safe haven. Don't appeal to "other options" unless you can offer one. The U.S. has done this in wars past, with no apology. Perhaps you recall the bombing of Tokyo, Hiroshima, and Nagasaki?

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– Oh_Well_ian [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

So, in other words, you don't know who's firing the missiles or dropping the bombs?

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– Irishman4Trump4 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Agree…since when does the USA ever use a 3rd party to provide satellite footage for tv? It’s like they don’t have access (hmmm?).

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– NeuroticFisherman 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'd imagine the IC doesn't want to give any Intel about how accurate or clear their spot satellites are, what they can see, what their abilities are. Military satellites can't cover everything everywhere either. There's lots more commercial grade cameras in orbit that with perfectly well enough for some things. The government will contract with some of these companies to get whatever imagery they may need. I've even seen a couple of companies that strictly study north Korea with their own satellites and sell such images to the government, academics, think tanks, whomever may need such imagery.

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– Zi0ns_walls 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Funny you posted this I was gonna post this video I saw on telegram.

It purports to be a Ukrainian soldier putting a liquid bomb in a children's playground. Why he would do that Ill let you decide

https://files.catbox.moe/bj8e92.mp4

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– Whirlybot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Looks like one of my older kids throwing out the baby's dirty diaper.

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– undine53 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Had a message from someone claiming to have contacts in the Ukraine saying the Russians invaded and are destroying cities. I did not reply, pointless.

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– DinkiDiAussie1 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

With a population of 44 million people .. where's all the social media footage??.. sure had loads from the civilians in Canada when Trudeau was stomping on their faces!

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– freeDacian 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Military in full control then as our fren told us?

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– Hing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The Pikachu face on MSM and normies' faces will be legendary when Russia captures Kiev next week.

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– DeathRayDesigner 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Very good inference. Fits the method of the actors. That and the preference for human shields.

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