I think you still have an equal protection under the law and or religious freedom case. If I were deacon my bells would ring everytime a call to prayer guess out.
Islam is a man made belief system disguised as a religion. When you look at the history of how Islam came into being, it’s pretty blatant.
What they are practicing is in TOTAL OPPOSITION to our Constitution. They practice slavery, they see ALL non Muslims as bags of sh*t. They practice the “right” to slaughter anyone in their family that decides they don’t want to follow Islam anymore. Women are treated worse than dogs, and non Muslim women are FREE TO RAPE because they aren’t people in their eyes.
It’s against our Constitution to practice Islam on American soil, it’s not protected as it’s NOT a religion.
Exactly. Islam is a military/political ideology of conquest and NIGHTMARISH oppression. The 'ummah' (Islamic community) is CONSTANTLY watching over Muslims to ensure their compliance. Islam is slavery. Muslims are slaves and they are REQUIRED to recruit still more slaves. There is NO CONNECTION between Father Abraham and Islam. Nor is there any connection between Ishmael and Islam. In fact, there are only TWO 'Abrahamic' faiths: Judaism and Christianity. Muslims DO NOT worship the God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ (and - as you well know - there IS no other God). Islam is idolatry of the worst sort and the Muslim 'call to prayer' is blasphemy against the only Living God in Christ.
How is it possible to worship God at all if you don't acknowledge the Triune God? I don't always acknowledge the Holy Spirit. I don't always acknowledge the Heavenly Father. Sometimes I only mention Christ Jesus in my prayers, my hymns and my worship. Yet, my attitude is that I CANNOT worship God at all without worshiping the Triune God - I have no choice. They ALL are on the 'email' distribution, whether I like it or not.
Real, devout Jews are worshiping the Only Holy and Living God. I want to believe that but it doesn't really matter whether I believe that - or not. If the Jews are worshiping the God of the Old Testament - they don't get to choose whether the Son of God in Christ is included in the God-head. You don't acknowledge that Jesus is God? Too bad, Schlomo. You don't acknowledge the Holy Spirit? Oy vey! U R missing OUT!
I think there simply is no way to be an observant and good Jew without honoring God and worshiping only Him (Hashem). But OOOPS! If you're gonna sincerely name the NAME, you get all three, whether you ask for them or not. Three for the price of the ONE ETERNAL AND TRIUNE GOD.
Acknowledging Christ Jesus as our Lord and Savior is a very SPECIAL privilege. You and I do not keep the old laws. Yet in Christ the law is fulfilled! We MUST love the Lord God with all our hearts, souls, minds and strengths (but what a JOY! What a PROMISE!) We MUST love each other as Christ has loved us and we MUST love our neighbors as we love ourselves. On this hangs all the law and the prophets. (Pssst! All TEN of the commandments are also PROMISES!)
As far as I'm concerned, the real questions are "Am I loving my Savior God FIRST? Am I in right relationship with Him? Am I loving my neighbors (Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists) as myself? Am I loving my enemies and praying for them? Am I asking God to find a way to include them in His Kingdom? Am I doing all I can to help Him? Am I putting God's Kingdom first and foremost in my life?"
Our precious Heavenly Father KNOWS who is truly honoring Him. Almighty God KNOWS who belongs to Him. He KNOWS who is truly a Jew and who is truly a Christian. God looks on the heart. I expect there will be people in Heaven that I knew here on Earth as being Muslims. Having Lord Jesus in our hearts allows Heaven to begin for us right NOW. Why wait? Rejoice, already! ;)
Islam worships the same Yaweh God that is at the root of Christianity and Judaism. Islam also says that Jesus was a very important prophet, though not the Messiah. Islam also includes Jesus coming back on a horse with a flaming sword in the end times. When if they don't have a direct genealogy to Abraham, their religious beliefs sprung from the same cultural religions going on before its founding, mainly two versions of Yaweh worship.
Btw, the Bible has plenty of prescriptions for how to keep and care for your slaves, which women are ok to rape and if they're not ok to rape, how much do you owe their father (note how the Christian rules tell of the offense to the father when you rape a woman, not the woman herself). There's also lots of rules and prescriptions in the Christian Bible about how to wage war, who to kill and when, etc. Not to mention the song of Solomon and the "smut" that's in that book of the Bible.
In essence,, the theological structures and holy texts between Christianity and Islam are rather close all things considered, because both holy books and their traditions are the results of bronze age living near the same time and territory.
Wrong. On many counts. Only the Word of God (the Bible) is Holy Scripture. Also, Yahweh God alone is God. Allah is a pagan idol and is unrelated to Holiness and unrelated to anything Divine. Lost and wandering Muslims do not worship the God who created and loves them.
The Esa of Islam is IN NO WAY related to the Christ of God - through Whom The Heavenly Father is reconciling our sin-wrecked world unto Himself. In Christ Jesus, God is making all things new. With or without you, God will WIN (reclaim this world for Himself), through His only Begotten Son - the very living WORD of God.
In no way is the pitiful rambling of the unholy Quran, the pointlessness of the Sira of the pseudo-prophet of Islam, the wanton and wasteful ink-spilling of the a-Hadiths and the boring and useless deception of the little Green Book (the Reliance of the Traveler) in ANY WAY edifying or transforming for the seeker of sane and sacred living.
In other words, Islam is like the so called covid-vaccines. Entirely useless and potentially very dangerous, while in the way of, or even blocking, the usage of helpful therapies.
Islam is the man-made product of a land-pirate (if he even really existed) and his murderous companions. Islam is not a bronze age fabrication. Islam was fabricated during the medieval period of human history and has been poisoning the minds of men for more than 1400 years. But time is running out for Islam.
Seek Christ Jesus, Abdullah. Jesus Christ - the only begotten Son of the Only Living Yahweh God - is the only real hope for you and me. You are a slave of a hateful and racist pagan idolatry. I have been a slave to sin. BOTH OF US can have new life in Christ our Lord. I have already started my eternal life with Him. I will pray for you and for your new life in Christ our Lord. You can't stop me from loving you and praying for you, in JESUS mighty Name.
The perfect little reply by a perfect little Christian zealot. I never said I wasn't Christian. I just happen to not hate Muslims and have a different perspective on the Divine compared to your closed minded beliefs. And that's not a bad thing. There are many holy texts in many religions, whether you feel like recognizing them as Your holy texts or not. Luckily your individual perspectives do not determine what's true in the world. And believe it or not, there's wisdom and similarity within these different holy texts. God is much bigger than the constraints you put on Them by your rigid, hateful views. And that also is a good thing that God is bigger and more exciting than your rigid beliefs and understanding.
I also believe in not hating and condemning or judging people, something Jesus also had a lot of words about. Your zealotry is the root of the hate many so called Christians spread at every turn in their attempt to evangelize. Your views are also the reason young people are leaving organized religion in droves and see it for the hypocritical and corrupted institution it is. In your attempt to save the world and evangelize for your version of God, you're the driver behind the death of your own sects of closed minded Christianity.
I have also prayed for you and that you learn to appreciate different world views and perspectives for the wisdom they contain, to see that the people holding different views than you are not evil but just different (which is not inherently bad), and that you're able to leave your hate for the Other behind in your quest to become closer to the Divine. You cannot find Love while harboring so much hate inside your heart, and God is Love and Kindness.
More BULLSHIT. Zero tolerance for the ANTI-CHRIST.
Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son."
[1 John 2:22] DR
"And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God: and this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh, and he is now already in the world."
[1 John 4:3] DR
Ok. That can be your viewpoint. I just don't have the same ideas about the Bible or antichrist or Christianity and other world religions as you do. It's ok to have different points of view. Those Bible verses only hold weight if you give them weight. I think there are more paths to understanding the Divine than strictly limiting my understanding of Divine to Jesus Christ. By doing so it's putting God in a box and limiting Them. God is much more infinite and accepting than Jesus Christ being the single end all be all in my eyes. There are many important lessons to be learned about spirituality and the Divine from nearly all world religions; there are different lessons in different belief systems, and they help create a whole that is greater than the sum of their parts. Expand your thinking some, and break past dogmatic mental systems that are driven into people by the cabal and other drivers of division and hate in the world.
Any “religion” that preaches denial of my Lord and my God, preaches death to non-subscribers ought not to be praised, listened to, given credence. It is an abomination, and error has no rights
Get outta here with that brainwashed new-age ecumenical bullshit. I literally PISS on copies of qurans I buy from thrift stores. Spit. Piss. Burn. Repeat.
Muhammad PBUH (Piss Be Upon Him) was a wife-stealing, murdering, deranged pedophile.
Then open your windows and start before the crack of dawn with Praise and Worship!! I recommend Elevation. Time to invest in some really good American made speakers.
I think this is another scheme to get control of an area. Move in some Muslims, start up the "call to prayer" - preferably a really bad recording on a shitty sound system, or just a shitty sound system with a human behind it. Blast away five times a day and watch all the old-time residents sell their houses and move away from a noise that they can't stop. Have more Muslims buy up those houses and BAM! instant Muslim enclave. No-one else would choose to live there.
In this age of cellphones, it might be suggested that people could just be alerted on their phones rather than everyone in the area being disturbed. But then we'd be talking about actual 21st century people, not some backwards Medieval peasants.
You don't really mean that. You mean the offense, otherwise you wouldn't call them backwards medieval peasants... If you're going to be hateful and offensive, at least own it and don't pussyfoot around with social niceties with words you don't mean or believe.
You literally used offensive in your comment, and I was using the same word.... And calling someone a backwards peasant isn't a nice thing. You clearly don't like such people. Opposite of like = hate. It's not a big reach to suggest you hate someone you called backwards medieval peasants.
Beware, Minneapolis. This is one of the ways that Muslims drive out non-Muslims (as u/GranniePaine has said, above).
This is a population replacement technique. This wretched 'call to prayer' is part of the way Muslims demand conformity of
other Muslims. This is a form of Islamic psychological control. This is part of the way Muslims "claim" the territory they have
invaded. And Muslims are ALWAYS invaders, no matter who/where grants them refuge. And, if you didn't know, the 'call to
prayer' is a HUGE red-flag.
We could have talked about this long ago, but how do you fight back against Islamic 'violations' while - until as a last
resort - withholding kinetic violence?
Start with prayer; ALWAYS start with prayer
Remember, there is NO 'co-existence' with Islam
remember that Islam is very much like the mafia and their methods and secretiveness are similar
Find like-minded people that want to reclaim Minneapolis for Christ our Lord and grow this group continually
Prepare to defend your homes and loved ones, no matter when; no matter where and TRAIN
Raise money, LOTS of money for legal backing and campaign funding
Even avoiding violence, realize this is 'war' (for ALL the marbles) and will be a long-term and resource intensive campaign (remembering that Muslims are patient and well funded)
At every meeting and gathering in which you have a voice, insist on the Pledge of Allegiance and Christian prayer (especially including the Name of Lord Jesus)
Join together in the US National Anthem at every public event (don't wait for someone to offer)
Play recordings of the US National Anthem (or any song or hymn you love) - especially in your home or vehicle - whenever you hear the Islamic 'call to prayer'
Identify and remove any elected/appointed officials who show signs of corruption
Remove especially the Islamic sympathizers from power and publicly identify their supporters
Boycott Muslim businesses, defund their sympathizers and publicly identify their supporters
Did I mention prayer?
Support and elect officials that will not give an inch to "inclusiveness" and who insist on the constitutions of the USA and Minnesota
In every way and in every place, publicly declare and defend Minneapolis to be a "Shariah Free Zone"
Erect Christian crosses on private property EVERYWHERE in the city of Minneapolis and Hennepen county - especially near mosques and other places of Muslim gatherings - and be ready to quickly repair/replace when vandals strike
Buy advertising space declaring "Jesus Christ is GOD!"; billboards, print, radio, TV and internet
Buy advertising space declaring "JESUS CHRIST is LORD OVER MINNEAPOLIS!"; billboards, print, radio, TV and internet
don't forget to pray
Buy advertising space declaring "Jesus Loves even Muslims!"
Welcome Muslims to Christian services of worship - where possible, help Muslims escape from the death-cult of Islam
(Seriously, many Muslims are trying to ESCAPE from Islam and ex-Muslims can help in this effort; Muslims are leaving Islam by the hundreds - every day - all over the world)
Like an election campaign, post LARGE pictures of Jesus in yards and on billboards - EVERYWHERE - especially near mosques, near Muslim businesses and other places of Muslim gatherings; be ready to quickly repair/replace those pictures when vandals strike
did I mention prayer?
ring Church Bells for ANY reason or for no reason at all, city-wide and county-wide
be assured that Muslims are watching you - their spies are everywhere (even on this forum) so, make sure you know who Muslims are and keep eyes ON
Ohh no what ever will we do when a bunch of fags we dont care anything about call us names? Lmao i am whatever they say i am cause i dont guve 1 fuck what they say ;) i let actions be my name
I once lived in a place next to a clock tower. Someone thought it would be a great idea to have the clock play VERY LOUD chimes hourly all day long. I almost went insane. . .
You don’t speak for everyone. Heads would roll, pun intended, if Catholics in the area got back to their roots and sounded the bells 3x a day for the Angelus. Islam is repulsive. I’m repulsed by any “religion” that denounces Christ’s Divinity, denounces His place as Second Person of the Triune God, denies the Crucifixion, denies the Resurrection, calls me a blasphemer, says my neck should be smited by their scimitars...so no, we’re NOT going to settle down.
I didn't mean to start an argument with the Pope. You're missing my point entirely. You can be personally offended, but that doesn't mean it's actually offensive. The crack of dawn is one of their official prayer times.
Then they can set their own alarm clocks and cell phone notifications for the crack of dawn call to prayer. That they would unnecessarily inflict it onto others in public shows it’s obviously hostile and intended to demoralize.
That Christian churches would inflict their wretched outdated bells on the community and non-believers at every hour of the day is obviously hostile and intended to make those nearby go crazy and push Christianity on everyone within earshot.
Oh wait, no, such a view would be in fact crazy, as is yours.
We have no pope, sedevacante! No, IT’S OFFENSIVE, and yes, I realize the crack of dawn is one of their witching hours. Your opinion may be that you have no problem or maybe even like to hear demons howl and chant at that hour, but as for me and my house, WE SERVE THE LORD and condemn the anti-Christ. >>“Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son." [1 John 2:22] DR<<
If you don't speak Arabic, it's just sound. Like an alarm clock. There's no reason to object, really, unless it disturbs you in a specific way. If you sleep in, then you'd be upset about the timing, and not the content, of the early call to prayer.
Point taken. And I understand being offended vs being offensive. I personally share your view and feel that much of these things we worry about (symbols & gestures) are impotent without the necessary intent. I think perhaps what people aren't articulating is that Islam (whether hijacked or not) is a religion with barbaric behaviors. Not used to be...but currently IS. I hear that argument all the time...more people have been killed in the name of Christianity blah blah blah...but that is a 'was', not an 'is', speaking in terms of the church, not individual crazies.
Since we expect to not be associated with wrong actions of past church transgressions we should extend the same to Islam. The problem is...the relative silence of the muslim communities in response to the horrors a faction of it commits this very day. Yeah, we hear the random cleric condemn things when a major event happens, but it doesn't seem like the religion as a whole is fighting the association.
And THAT is what I think is the problem. Blasting out their call to prayer is like boasting that they oppress, stone and behead in the name of that god they're praying to in a country of 'infidels' that has given them a haven.
Wrong again, Wormtongue. There is no relationship WHATEVER between the pagan idol known as 'allah' and the only Living God known to us by the name: "Lord Jesus".
Christ Jesus is the very living WORD of God. Second person of the Triune and Living God; begotten of The Father; begotten - not made. And 'allah' (recycled from it's ancient Beelzebub past by Mohammed and his thieving companions) was 'made up' by the original muslim slaves and is in no way related to Christ our Lord. No, it's NOT "the same God"
Let me encourage you to get to KNOW the Living God in Christ Jesus our Savior. He could use some clever people such as yourself to help Him build His coming Kingdom. You could make yourself useful. LOL!
How many Muslims do you talk to In a normal day? How many have you asked their opinions on the violence others in their religion in other parts of the world commit? Regular people are condemning it every day, though I feel like many people in this forum are so full of disgust at the thought of Muslims that they would never be able to get through a normal, unoffending conversation with a Muslim. The fact is that the violence perpetrated by Muslim individuals in the name of Islam is a small minority compared to the world.
Would you deny Christ and stop being a Christian if Christians in Indonesia (just an example) started committing terrorist acts against others? Would you stop your daily worship routine, stop going to church? People aren't going to abandon the tradition of their religions because a minority are committing violence in it's name, as I assume you would not stop worshiping Jesus if the situation were reversed. You don't want to be known for the transgressions committed by Christians, and you should extend the same courtesy to your Muslim brothers and sisters.
Wow, that was totally uncalled for and an illustration of having read my comment with predisposed eyes. Your accusations veiled in questions have nothing to do with what I said and are in fact inflammatory assumptions quite the opposite of what I said.
Try reading it again after you've gotten off of your self righteous, rather unchristian, judgmental lecture.
#1 - you've gotten it all wrong. #2 - you've chosen an apt user name. #3 - having read through your previous comments in order to gauge if I might be misreading the tone of response ...you might become the first person I ever block.
Finally, someone beats Chicago for woke stupidity.
And coincidentally property values begin to plummet as hordes of people move away.....
Sadly not a single church will decide to ring their bells, not as a protest, but as an exercise of their rights to promote the Christian faith.
I think you still have an equal protection under the law and or religious freedom case. If I were deacon my bells would ring everytime a call to prayer guess out.
Eventually, the backlash will come. It won’t be pretty.
Wont be pretty? Lmao i will absolutely love seeing all the pedos put in wood chippers it will be heaven on earth
Agreed nothing will wake these people up.
Crack-of-dawn noise pollution can literally wake people up.
I hate when that happens
JFC I hate that sound. Woke me up every morning at zero dark hundred. Bastard child rapists.
You lost me at JFC
Aw...I wish I could be ok with blasphemy like you two, but I serve a Righteous God, Whose Mercy is equal to His Justice. Cupcake.
Islam is a man made belief system disguised as a religion. When you look at the history of how Islam came into being, it’s pretty blatant.
What they are practicing is in TOTAL OPPOSITION to our Constitution. They practice slavery, they see ALL non Muslims as bags of sh*t. They practice the “right” to slaughter anyone in their family that decides they don’t want to follow Islam anymore. Women are treated worse than dogs, and non Muslim women are FREE TO RAPE because they aren’t people in their eyes.
It’s against our Constitution to practice Islam on American soil, it’s not protected as it’s NOT a religion.
Exactly. Islam is a military/political ideology of conquest and NIGHTMARISH oppression. The 'ummah' (Islamic community) is CONSTANTLY watching over Muslims to ensure their compliance. Islam is slavery. Muslims are slaves and they are REQUIRED to recruit still more slaves. There is NO CONNECTION between Father Abraham and Islam. Nor is there any connection between Ishmael and Islam. In fact, there are only TWO 'Abrahamic' faiths: Judaism and Christianity. Muslims DO NOT worship the God and Father of our Lord, Jesus Christ (and - as you well know - there IS no other God). Islam is idolatry of the worst sort and the Muslim 'call to prayer' is blasphemy against the only Living God in Christ.
Want more sauce?
https://robertspencer.org/islam-101
https://www.answeringislam.org/
And you can message me for still more. THANK YOU for speaking up and THANK YOU for being here!
How is “Judaism” even relatable to Christianity? They do not worship the Triune God. They, along with Muslims, deny 2/3 of the Trinity.
How is it possible to worship God at all if you don't acknowledge the Triune God? I don't always acknowledge the Holy Spirit. I don't always acknowledge the Heavenly Father. Sometimes I only mention Christ Jesus in my prayers, my hymns and my worship. Yet, my attitude is that I CANNOT worship God at all without worshiping the Triune God - I have no choice. They ALL are on the 'email' distribution, whether I like it or not.
Real, devout Jews are worshiping the Only Holy and Living God. I want to believe that but it doesn't really matter whether I believe that - or not. If the Jews are worshiping the God of the Old Testament - they don't get to choose whether the Son of God in Christ is included in the God-head. You don't acknowledge that Jesus is God? Too bad, Schlomo. You don't acknowledge the Holy Spirit? Oy vey! U R missing OUT!
I think there simply is no way to be an observant and good Jew without honoring God and worshiping only Him (Hashem). But OOOPS! If you're gonna sincerely name the NAME, you get all three, whether you ask for them or not. Three for the price of the ONE ETERNAL AND TRIUNE GOD.
Acknowledging Christ Jesus as our Lord and Savior is a very SPECIAL privilege. You and I do not keep the old laws. Yet in Christ the law is fulfilled! We MUST love the Lord God with all our hearts, souls, minds and strengths (but what a JOY! What a PROMISE!) We MUST love each other as Christ has loved us and we MUST love our neighbors as we love ourselves. On this hangs all the law and the prophets. (Pssst! All TEN of the commandments are also PROMISES!)
As far as I'm concerned, the real questions are "Am I loving my Savior God FIRST? Am I in right relationship with Him? Am I loving my neighbors (Christians, Jews, Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Atheists) as myself? Am I loving my enemies and praying for them? Am I asking God to find a way to include them in His Kingdom? Am I doing all I can to help Him? Am I putting God's Kingdom first and foremost in my life?"
Our precious Heavenly Father KNOWS who is truly honoring Him. Almighty God KNOWS who belongs to Him. He KNOWS who is truly a Jew and who is truly a Christian. God looks on the heart. I expect there will be people in Heaven that I knew here on Earth as being Muslims. Having Lord Jesus in our hearts allows Heaven to begin for us right NOW. Why wait? Rejoice, already! ;)
Islam worships the same Yaweh God that is at the root of Christianity and Judaism. Islam also says that Jesus was a very important prophet, though not the Messiah. Islam also includes Jesus coming back on a horse with a flaming sword in the end times. When if they don't have a direct genealogy to Abraham, their religious beliefs sprung from the same cultural religions going on before its founding, mainly two versions of Yaweh worship.
Btw, the Bible has plenty of prescriptions for how to keep and care for your slaves, which women are ok to rape and if they're not ok to rape, how much do you owe their father (note how the Christian rules tell of the offense to the father when you rape a woman, not the woman herself). There's also lots of rules and prescriptions in the Christian Bible about how to wage war, who to kill and when, etc. Not to mention the song of Solomon and the "smut" that's in that book of the Bible.
In essence,, the theological structures and holy texts between Christianity and Islam are rather close all things considered, because both holy books and their traditions are the results of bronze age living near the same time and territory.
Wrong. On many counts. Only the Word of God (the Bible) is Holy Scripture. Also, Yahweh God alone is God. Allah is a pagan idol and is unrelated to Holiness and unrelated to anything Divine. Lost and wandering Muslims do not worship the God who created and loves them.
The Esa of Islam is IN NO WAY related to the Christ of God - through Whom The Heavenly Father is reconciling our sin-wrecked world unto Himself. In Christ Jesus, God is making all things new. With or without you, God will WIN (reclaim this world for Himself), through His only Begotten Son - the very living WORD of God.
In no way is the pitiful rambling of the unholy Quran, the pointlessness of the Sira of the pseudo-prophet of Islam, the wanton and wasteful ink-spilling of the a-Hadiths and the boring and useless deception of the little Green Book (the Reliance of the Traveler) in ANY WAY edifying or transforming for the seeker of sane and sacred living.
In other words, Islam is like the so called covid-vaccines. Entirely useless and potentially very dangerous, while in the way of, or even blocking, the usage of helpful therapies.
Islam is the man-made product of a land-pirate (if he even really existed) and his murderous companions. Islam is not a bronze age fabrication. Islam was fabricated during the medieval period of human history and has been poisoning the minds of men for more than 1400 years. But time is running out for Islam.
Seek Christ Jesus, Abdullah. Jesus Christ - the only begotten Son of the Only Living Yahweh God - is the only real hope for you and me. You are a slave of a hateful and racist pagan idolatry. I have been a slave to sin. BOTH OF US can have new life in Christ our Lord. I have already started my eternal life with Him. I will pray for you and for your new life in Christ our Lord. You can't stop me from loving you and praying for you, in JESUS mighty Name.
Want more sauce?
https://robertspencer.org/islam-101/
https://www.answeringislam.org/
The perfect little reply by a perfect little Christian zealot. I never said I wasn't Christian. I just happen to not hate Muslims and have a different perspective on the Divine compared to your closed minded beliefs. And that's not a bad thing. There are many holy texts in many religions, whether you feel like recognizing them as Your holy texts or not. Luckily your individual perspectives do not determine what's true in the world. And believe it or not, there's wisdom and similarity within these different holy texts. God is much bigger than the constraints you put on Them by your rigid, hateful views. And that also is a good thing that God is bigger and more exciting than your rigid beliefs and understanding.
I also believe in not hating and condemning or judging people, something Jesus also had a lot of words about. Your zealotry is the root of the hate many so called Christians spread at every turn in their attempt to evangelize. Your views are also the reason young people are leaving organized religion in droves and see it for the hypocritical and corrupted institution it is. In your attempt to save the world and evangelize for your version of God, you're the driver behind the death of your own sects of closed minded Christianity.
I have also prayed for you and that you learn to appreciate different world views and perspectives for the wisdom they contain, to see that the people holding different views than you are not evil but just different (which is not inherently bad), and that you're able to leave your hate for the Other behind in your quest to become closer to the Divine. You cannot find Love while harboring so much hate inside your heart, and God is Love and Kindness.
More BULLSHIT. Zero tolerance for the ANTI-CHRIST. Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son." [1 John 2:22] DR
"And every spirit that dissolveth Jesus, is not of God: and this is Antichrist, of whom you have heard that he cometh, and he is now already in the world." [1 John 4:3] DR
Ok. That can be your viewpoint. I just don't have the same ideas about the Bible or antichrist or Christianity and other world religions as you do. It's ok to have different points of view. Those Bible verses only hold weight if you give them weight. I think there are more paths to understanding the Divine than strictly limiting my understanding of Divine to Jesus Christ. By doing so it's putting God in a box and limiting Them. God is much more infinite and accepting than Jesus Christ being the single end all be all in my eyes. There are many important lessons to be learned about spirituality and the Divine from nearly all world religions; there are different lessons in different belief systems, and they help create a whole that is greater than the sum of their parts. Expand your thinking some, and break past dogmatic mental systems that are driven into people by the cabal and other drivers of division and hate in the world.
Any “religion” that preaches denial of my Lord and my God, preaches death to non-subscribers ought not to be praised, listened to, given credence. It is an abomination, and error has no rights
Get outta here with that brainwashed new-age ecumenical bullshit. I literally PISS on copies of qurans I buy from thrift stores. Spit. Piss. Burn. Repeat. Muhammad PBUH (Piss Be Upon Him) was a wife-stealing, murdering, deranged pedophile.
Then open your windows and start before the crack of dawn with Praise and Worship!! I recommend Elevation. Time to invest in some really good American made speakers.
I think this is another scheme to get control of an area. Move in some Muslims, start up the "call to prayer" - preferably a really bad recording on a shitty sound system, or just a shitty sound system with a human behind it. Blast away five times a day and watch all the old-time residents sell their houses and move away from a noise that they can't stop. Have more Muslims buy up those houses and BAM! instant Muslim enclave. No-one else would choose to live there.
In this age of cellphones, it might be suggested that people could just be alerted on their phones rather than everyone in the area being disturbed. But then we'd be talking about actual 21st century people, not some backwards Medieval peasants.
You don't really mean that. You mean the offense, otherwise you wouldn't call them backwards medieval peasants... If you're going to be hateful and offensive, at least own it and don't pussyfoot around with social niceties with words you don't mean or believe.
You literally used offensive in your comment, and I was using the same word.... And calling someone a backwards peasant isn't a nice thing. You clearly don't like such people. Opposite of like = hate. It's not a big reach to suggest you hate someone you called backwards medieval peasants.
This is a great opportunity to use those speakers as target practice.
Beware, Minneapolis. This is one of the ways that Muslims drive out non-Muslims (as u/GranniePaine has said, above). This is a population replacement technique. This wretched 'call to prayer' is part of the way Muslims demand conformity of other Muslims. This is a form of Islamic psychological control. This is part of the way Muslims "claim" the territory they have invaded. And Muslims are ALWAYS invaders, no matter who/where grants them refuge. And, if you didn't know, the 'call to prayer' is a HUGE red-flag.
We could have talked about this long ago, but how do you fight back against Islamic 'violations' while - until as a last resort - withholding kinetic violence?
Start with prayer; ALWAYS start with prayer
Remember, there is NO 'co-existence' with Islam
remember that Islam is very much like the mafia and their methods and secretiveness are similar
Find like-minded people that want to reclaim Minneapolis for Christ our Lord and grow this group continually
Prepare to defend your homes and loved ones, no matter when; no matter where and TRAIN
Raise money, LOTS of money for legal backing and campaign funding
Even avoiding violence, realize this is 'war' (for ALL the marbles) and will be a long-term and resource intensive campaign (remembering that Muslims are patient and well funded)
At every meeting and gathering in which you have a voice, insist on the Pledge of Allegiance and Christian prayer (especially including the Name of Lord Jesus)
Join together in the US National Anthem at every public event (don't wait for someone to offer)
Play recordings of the US National Anthem (or any song or hymn you love) - especially in your home or vehicle - whenever you hear the Islamic 'call to prayer'
Identify and remove any elected/appointed officials who show signs of corruption
Remove especially the Islamic sympathizers from power and publicly identify their supporters
Boycott Muslim businesses, defund their sympathizers and publicly identify their supporters
Did I mention prayer?
Support and elect officials that will not give an inch to "inclusiveness" and who insist on the constitutions of the USA and Minnesota
In every way and in every place, publicly declare and defend Minneapolis to be a "Shariah Free Zone"
Erect Christian crosses on private property EVERYWHERE in the city of Minneapolis and Hennepen county - especially near mosques and other places of Muslim gatherings - and be ready to quickly repair/replace when vandals strike
Buy advertising space declaring "Jesus Christ is GOD!"; billboards, print, radio, TV and internet
Buy advertising space declaring "JESUS CHRIST is LORD OVER MINNEAPOLIS!"; billboards, print, radio, TV and internet
don't forget to pray
Buy advertising space declaring "Jesus Loves even Muslims!"
Welcome Muslims to Christian services of worship - where possible, help Muslims escape from the death-cult of Islam
(Seriously, many Muslims are trying to ESCAPE from Islam and ex-Muslims can help in this effort; Muslims are leaving Islam by the hundreds - every day - all over the world)
Like an election campaign, post LARGE pictures of Jesus in yards and on billboards - EVERYWHERE - especially near mosques, near Muslim businesses and other places of Muslim gatherings; be ready to quickly repair/replace those pictures when vandals strike
did I mention prayer?
ring Church Bells for ANY reason or for no reason at all, city-wide and county-wide
be assured that Muslims are watching you - their spies are everywhere (even on this forum) so, make sure you know who Muslims are and keep eyes ON
and, like the Bible tells us: STAY IN PRAYER
somebody upvote this guy
I suppose anyone that complains will be labeled as racist and hateful?
Ohh no what ever will we do when a bunch of fags we dont care anything about call us names? Lmao i am whatever they say i am cause i dont guve 1 fuck what they say ;) i let actions be my name
And alt-right.
I am quite sure our founding fathers would not want this in America.
Freedom of religion is a pesky bitch
It’s not even a freedom of religion issue. It’s an issue of noise pollution and public nuisance.
WTF???
Honest question: Is it okay to say the word "sandnigger" here? Asking for a friend.
PS. GREAT IDEA! Open your window and blast out Christian hymns. Use an amplifier and speakers so big they make cement crack.
I guess it depends on if the First Amendment is practiced here.
Be as openly hateful and vile as you want, it is protected under the first amendment.
Guess the churches better pick the slot right after that's done playing, and blast some hymns to wash it down. Kek
u/#quiet
Those speakers would be expensive to replace everyday.... all im sayin... ;)
Figures. Solidarity with anyone opposed to Christianity.
Time to go back to ringing those church bells.
Church bells need to ring EVERY HOUR!!!!
I once lived in a place next to a clock tower. Someone thought it would be a great idea to have the clock play VERY LOUD chimes hourly all day long. I almost went insane. . .
Oooh! Some Stryper, maybe? And, there are others who RAGE in the name of Jesus. I especially liked Fireflight...
For fucks sake…
The Muslim call to prayer is not offensive. Churches all over the land ring bells every day, especially Sunday. Settle down.
You don’t speak for everyone. Heads would roll, pun intended, if Catholics in the area got back to their roots and sounded the bells 3x a day for the Angelus. Islam is repulsive. I’m repulsed by any “religion” that denounces Christ’s Divinity, denounces His place as Second Person of the Triune God, denies the Crucifixion, denies the Resurrection, calls me a blasphemer, says my neck should be smited by their scimitars...so no, we’re NOT going to settle down.
I didn't mean to start an argument with the Pope. You're missing my point entirely. You can be personally offended, but that doesn't mean it's actually offensive. The crack of dawn is one of their official prayer times.
Then they can set their own alarm clocks and cell phone notifications for the crack of dawn call to prayer. That they would unnecessarily inflict it onto others in public shows it’s obviously hostile and intended to demoralize.
That Christian churches would inflict their wretched outdated bells on the community and non-believers at every hour of the day is obviously hostile and intended to make those nearby go crazy and push Christianity on everyone within earshot.
Oh wait, no, such a view would be in fact crazy, as is yours.
We have no pope, sedevacante! No, IT’S OFFENSIVE, and yes, I realize the crack of dawn is one of their witching hours. Your opinion may be that you have no problem or maybe even like to hear demons howl and chant at that hour, but as for me and my house, WE SERVE THE LORD and condemn the anti-Christ. >>“Who is a liar, but he who denieth that Jesus is the Christ? This is Antichrist, who denieth the Father, and the Son." [1 John 2:22] DR<<
AMEN!
The difference is that bells are not prayers. There are no christian words being spoken. They serve merely as 'alarm clocks'.
https://network.crcna.org/ecumenical-interfaith/what-does-islamic-call-prayer-adhan-really-say
To hell with that shit. LITERALLY
If you don't speak Arabic, it's just sound. Like an alarm clock. There's no reason to object, really, unless it disturbs you in a specific way. If you sleep in, then you'd be upset about the timing, and not the content, of the early call to prayer.
“Imma roll over and neuter myself cuz I don’t speak Arabic.” IT IS SATANIC, all of it.
Not quite. Nice try though.
Keep your Islamic apologetics to yourself, anti-Christ garbage isn’t popular here.
OK, finally, a legitimate complaint. If it violates the noise ordinance, then they should quiet down.
Point taken. And I understand being offended vs being offensive. I personally share your view and feel that much of these things we worry about (symbols & gestures) are impotent without the necessary intent. I think perhaps what people aren't articulating is that Islam (whether hijacked or not) is a religion with barbaric behaviors. Not used to be...but currently IS. I hear that argument all the time...more people have been killed in the name of Christianity blah blah blah...but that is a 'was', not an 'is', speaking in terms of the church, not individual crazies.
Since we expect to not be associated with wrong actions of past church transgressions we should extend the same to Islam. The problem is...the relative silence of the muslim communities in response to the horrors a faction of it commits this very day. Yeah, we hear the random cleric condemn things when a major event happens, but it doesn't seem like the religion as a whole is fighting the association.
And THAT is what I think is the problem. Blasting out their call to prayer is like boasting that they oppress, stone and behead in the name of that god they're praying to in a country of 'infidels' that has given them a haven.
Sure, just know that it's the same God, the God of Abraham, same as yours and mine. Allah, Yahweh, tomato, tomahto.
Wrong again, Wormtongue. There is no relationship WHATEVER between the pagan idol known as 'allah' and the only Living God known to us by the name: "Lord Jesus".
Christ Jesus is the very living WORD of God. Second person of the Triune and Living God; begotten of The Father; begotten - not made. And 'allah' (recycled from it's ancient Beelzebub past by Mohammed and his thieving companions) was 'made up' by the original muslim slaves and is in no way related to Christ our Lord. No, it's NOT "the same God"
Let me encourage you to get to KNOW the Living God in Christ Jesus our Savior. He could use some clever people such as yourself to help Him build His coming Kingdom. You could make yourself useful. LOL!
I am aware.
How many Muslims do you talk to In a normal day? How many have you asked their opinions on the violence others in their religion in other parts of the world commit? Regular people are condemning it every day, though I feel like many people in this forum are so full of disgust at the thought of Muslims that they would never be able to get through a normal, unoffending conversation with a Muslim. The fact is that the violence perpetrated by Muslim individuals in the name of Islam is a small minority compared to the world.
Would you deny Christ and stop being a Christian if Christians in Indonesia (just an example) started committing terrorist acts against others? Would you stop your daily worship routine, stop going to church? People aren't going to abandon the tradition of their religions because a minority are committing violence in it's name, as I assume you would not stop worshiping Jesus if the situation were reversed. You don't want to be known for the transgressions committed by Christians, and you should extend the same courtesy to your Muslim brothers and sisters.
Wow, that was totally uncalled for and an illustration of having read my comment with predisposed eyes. Your accusations veiled in questions have nothing to do with what I said and are in fact inflammatory assumptions quite the opposite of what I said.
Try reading it again after you've gotten off of your self righteous, rather unchristian, judgmental lecture.
#1 - you've gotten it all wrong. #2 - you've chosen an apt user name. #3 - having read through your previous comments in order to gauge if I might be misreading the tone of response ...you might become the first person I ever block.