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Anyone else sick of getting these fact checking sites thrown back at you? This one debunks the patented Moderna sequence being present in the virus. What would you say back to this? (healthfeedback.org)
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– MAGAguitar 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

"Fact checkers" are what the Corporate/Marxist press substitutes for actual research. There's nothing too them except to undermine the true meaning of the word "fact" and to whore-service shills online.

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– catsfive [M] [S] 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Stickying hoping one of our genius pedes has a good, ready answer. I've been talking to someone, a doctor, who is extremely high up in the EU military medical infrastructure and... You get the picture. Thanks for understanding.

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– CoolAsACucumber 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

https://greatawakening.win/p/15HITT17C5/x/c/4OVzXuklFz6

You can look up the gene sequence on the BLAST US government genome database yourself. With natural life and gene patents, just follow the photos or the article.

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– JeremyBearimy 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

If its found in other organisms, how can it be patented?

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– Duh_Winning 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Ask Monsanto

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– Wtf_socialismreally 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I'd rather ask the governments who allowed it personally.

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– CoolAsACucumber 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

I got you fam, use this like a hammer and smite the ignorance out of people.


Covid Origins Smoking Gun

How to BLAST your way to the truth about the origins of COVID-19

https://arkmedic.substack.com/p/how-to-blast-your-way-to-the-truth

https://archive.fo/xj5xk


BLAST Search Results. How to replicate to find the CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG Moderna synthetic genome patents and link to Covid. WO2020 and WO2021 and their patents are related to after the Sars-Cov-2 outbreak (2020 and thereafter) and can be dismissed. Interestingly, this sequence doesn't show up in natural life at all before Covid-19, only shows in Moderna patents, and the gene is involved in the virus invading the human cell

https://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi

Exact_BLAST_search_-_CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG.png (PATENTED NUCLEOTIDE SEQUENCES)

https://files.catbox.moe/ore90g.png

Pic1_CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG_BLAST_search_Results_.png

https://files.catbox.moe/f2kobj.png

Pic2_CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG_BLAST_Search_Results.png

https://files.catbox.moe/hn3v35.png

Pic3_CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG_BLAST_Search_Results.png

https://files.catbox.moe/0ohmqq.png


For finding no known life forms with the same genomic sequence, go back to Nucleotide BLAST

https://blast.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/Blast.cgi

copy-paste in CAGACTAATTCTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAGT

and follow everything in the search results as the pictures below. You will find there is no natural life with this genomic sequence other than Covid-19

BLAST Search Parameters Top-of-page

https://files.catbox.moe/fajjww.png

BLAST Search Parameters Bottom-of-page

https://files.catbox.moe/i6hu0y.png


(LOOSE ODDS)

Dr. med. Johanna Deinert (@DeinertDoc)

The chances of these amino acid fingerprints (from HIV) and gene sequence (patented by Moderna, not found naturally) showing up naturally in Covid-19 is about 1 in 4*10^66 to put that visually that is

0.000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000025 % chance this virus occurred naturally and wasn't created by genetic engineering.

(These odds are so low that if you found something orders of magnitude less than these odds in Quantum Physics Experiments - our most precise scientific field of the natural world - you would easily be published in a journal).

https://archive.is/NNXcU

https://twitter.com/DeinertDoc/status/1482631887638212611?s=20


(MATHEMATICALLY PRECISE ODDS)

@AlabasterDiadem

(THREAD)

1)"The only measurement of a mutation rate in a β-coronavirus suggests that this site will accumulate ~10^–6 mutations in each round of replication. Each replication cycle takes ~10 hr, and so there are 10^3 cycles/year. "

SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19) by the numbers (Yinon M Bar-On et al.)

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7224694/

i've read 10^-6 in another paper

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1339682907732905984.html

https://archive.ph/hgLLH

(THREAD)

nt's needed NOR that its all sequential... it's actually ((1*10^-6)/5)^24 (sorry in my sticky i underestimated how rare it is! i wrote 1e-5 previously, that was a typo!)

1.677722e-161 (aka not happening within the lifespan of the universe, probably the most unlikely thing ever)

https://twitter.com/AlabasterDiadem/status/1375487264927571972

https://archive.ph/2mSpb


What's more interesting is that this is the gene sequence used for the virus to get into human cells.

https://files.catbox.moe/6iw8c3.png



Several viruses are listed down the left hand side and the Codon sequence is along the top. The letters used are codons which are three DNA/RNA nucleotides long.

https://www.researchgate.net/post/COVID-19_CCTCGGCGGGCACGT_PRRAR_AA_Furin_cleavage_site_at_23603-23617_of_the_MN908947_Genbank_Genome_Matches_Mostly_Bacteria_COVID-19_in_BLAST

So CCT = P, CGG = R, GCA/GCT = A

http://algoart.com/aatable.htm

The columns labelled 681 - 684 look to have been inserted in a way that was unlikely to have happened by natural evolution. It is even more surprising that this is exactly what is required to help the virus get access to human cells.


@JikkyKjj Who owns #SARSCoV2?

If there is a contaminant that is patented, the patent owner owns it.

If you own something that harms someone else, what happens?

Monsanto may have dropped #BigPharma into the biggest pile of BatPile of pooin criminal history. #CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG

https://twitter.com/the_coopertron/status/1482702820293988353

https://archive.ph/D5Q64


@JikkyKjj

Who owns #SARSCoV2?

If there is a contaminant that is patented, the patent owner owns it.

If you own something that harms someone else, what happens?

Monsanto may have dropped #BigPharma into the biggest pile of BatPile of pooin criminal history. #CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG

https://archive.ph/x3pcC

https://twitter.com/JikkyKjj/status/1482594585457336320?s=20


@_Bilbobagga

Previous court case has ruled if your patent is found in something you own it. With a 2017 Moderna patent found in COVID-19 genome, Moderna can be found responsible for COVID-19! Lucky they have made billions off the vaccine for the virus they created, might need it and more!

https://twitter.com/_Bilbobagga/status/1482662636005519360?s=20

https://archive.ph/q0u1n


@PeterObHuan

this is why farmers in India were committing suicide years ago. Genetically Modified seeds had blown into their crop, and they were not able to tell the difference. Profits went to Monsanto, invested by Bill Gates. The law should change and place liability on Monsanto to not let their seeds mix.

https://archive.ph/jPvxz

https://twitter.com/PeterObHuan/status/1482649274890469380?s=20


@Daoyu15

When you claim a 🦇 virus with samples that have no 🦇 in it (incl. the 26Mread dataset, which is also devoid of mammalian reads incl.🦇), you either have a very contaminated lab, or you are committing academic fraud.

https://twitter.com/Daoyu15/status/1494093318522695682

https://archive.ph/ZDNKj

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10WVShEw9YrbNxGScie48ebojJbfLk6pj

Galaxy1073-[BANAL-52_human].sam

https://files.catbox.moe/rp3wt8.sam

Galaxy1064-[GRCH38(human)_BANAL236].sam

https://files.catbox.moe/z0esir.sam


The Three Phases of Covid Vaccine Mortality

https://files.catbox.moe/eef9we.png


Life Insurance CEO Says Deaths Up 40% Among Those Aged 18-64

https://www.zerohedge.com/medical/life-insurance-ceo-says-deaths-40-among-those-aged-18-64-and-not-because-covid


A link to Clandestine's twitter thread about the emails released via FOIA pertaining to Covid-19 showing the connection with Fauci/ NIH & Wuhan

  1. I’m not sure what is going on but in the past 4 months, Russia and China accused the US of creating bioweapons at their borders and none of us heard about and our media wrote it off as “disinformation” and largely didn’t report on it other than to call it a conspiracy theory. For all of this to make sense, you must be privy to the reality that the US NIH did indeed create C19 in Wuhan. Which has been largely accepted as the reality and confirmed in the emails between Collins and Fauci.

I broke down their official NIH emails released by Congress https://archive.ph/kyR2q#selection-1575.1-1579.64

which leads to

https://archive.ph/x7Gp2

  1. This thread will breakdown source material between America’s top scientists and health officials @NIH , recently made available via FOIA.

https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Letter-Re.-Feb-1-Emails-011122.pdf

https://web.archive.org/web/20220118110039/https://republicans-oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/01/Letter-Re.-Feb-1-Emails-011122.pdf

Thanks to @Jim_Jordan and @JamesComer , we have the emails sent to Fauci and Collins pertaining to Covid 19 origins.

Ones I Find particularly interesting

  1. Dr. Mike Farzan, Discoverer of SARS receptor, Harvard Medical, Immunology and Microbiology at University of Florida.

His initial assessment of C-19: -furin site is unnatural and likely man made -furin site manipulation enabled human adaption and transmission

  1. Dr. Andrew Rambaut, Evolutionary Biologist and Professor of Molecular Evolution at University if Edinburg.

-“unusual furin cleavage site” suggesting C19 was created -can’t confirm natural occurrence without evidence -should defer to experts working with the virus in Wuhan


(PUSHBACK THREAD ON THE GENE SEQUENCE THEORY - HOWEVER THE BLAST DATABASE SHOWS THIS IS BULLSHIT ANYWAY. YOU CAN MAKE THE GENE SEQUENCE AS LOOSE AS POSSIBLE RESULTS WHEN LOOKING IT UP AND THERE ARE NO NATURAL LIFEFORMS COMING CLOSE TO THE SEQUENCE AND THE 3 HIV SEQUENCES IN COVID 19)

@MichaelWorobey A follow-up to this thread about SARS-related CoVs in bats in Europe that are just one mutation away from a functional furin cleavage site (FCS). 1/

https://twitter.com/MichaelWorobey/status/1471546513281019905 https://archive.ph/Wiyon

https://twitter.com/MichaelWorobey/status/1471616466642292741 https://archive.ph/vCyYk

The authors of that study reported a very low frequency of mutants within the bat samples with mutations that would give them a functional furin cleavage site. @jbloom_lab has emphasized that those data cannot be taken as indicative of the presence of those mutants... 2/

Because they could simply be errors. Although both the authors and I noted this, I agree with Jesse that the sequencing data provide no evidence of the presence of the mutants. 3/

However, @jbloom_lab has gone one step further, and argued that the sequencing results positively prove that the mutants are absent in the samples. The data do not support this conclusion any more than they support the conclusion that the mutations are present. 4/

But the demonstration of viruses in bats just one mutation away from a functional cleavage site, does provide very strong evidence for a natural origin of SARS-CoV-2. And there are some reasons to think that in any given bat with a dominant variant 1 mutation... 5/

...away from a FCS there may be minor variants that code for that FCS. And when we consider all bats infected with these viruses, it is certain that some code for functional FCSs.

Here's why: viral populations are huge. Even within a host they can be huge. 6/

Within an individual human, here is the number of new virions generated per day for some viruses I'm familar with: HIV-1: 10^10 to 10^11. HCV: 10^12 HBV: 10^13

That's between a trillion and a quadrillion new virus particles per day. 7/


SEARCH THROUGH SOME ARCHIVED JIKKYKJJ LINKS, HE BROKE THE MODERNA COVID SEQUENCE STORY AND HAS SINCE BEEN BANNED FROM TWITTER. THERE ARE MANY GEMS I ARCHIVED IN MY SPARE TIME AND DIDNT SHARE ON GREATAWAKENING OR IN MY COLLECTION, SOME WAS MORE INFO ABOUT FURIN CLEAVAGE SITE.

https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/JikkyKjj*

YOU CAN FIND HIM OR SOMEONE CLOSE TO HIM ON TELEGRAM AS ARK MEDIC

OTHER GREAT NAMES ARE DAOYU15

https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/Daoyu15*

BILLY BOSTICKSON

https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/BillyBostickson*

CLUCKY92864053

https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/Clucky92864053*

KEVIN_MCKERNAN

https://archive.ph/https://twitter.com/Kevin_McKernan*

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– CoolAsACucumber 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0



NOT AS RELEVANT TO THREAD BUT STILL FUN TO SHARE

We now have a link connecting Epstein and Co. to Covid and Hydroxychloroquine disinformation. No fucking joke.

Opensafely run by HDRUK run by Epsteins right hand woman (not Ghislaine Maxwell and not arrested for some reason)

https://archive.fo/PaNC0

https://twitter.com/JikkyKjj/status/1480861680213004292


The tide is changing... Moderna CEO Stéphane Bancel has deleted his Twitter account... He has also ditched 400 million worth of mRNA stock..." allegedly" Moubar Afeyan, another Moderna cofounder, has ditched shares for 1.5billion... ." allegedly" The rats are jumping ship!..

https://twitter.com/BCscifience/status/1492289015768395778


@JikkyKjj

Sapan Desai holds the key to the whole #covid19 story.

Whoever made him retract his #IVM paper and submit the #lancetgate papers (that he was given) is behind the whole shebang.

He is literally the #sethrich of COVID. @barnes_law @RandPaul

https://archive.ph/ZO4Zz


Big Pharma Used Only Synthetic Data For Covid Vaccines. UK Drug Regulator Never Inspected the Pfizer Vaccine Study Data. Another potential bombshell from Jikky

https://archive.ph/qfTOS

Regulation or Racket? UK Drug Regulator Never Inspected the Pfizer Vaccine Study Data

https://doctors4covidethics.org/regulation-or-racket-uk-drug-regulator-never-inspected-the-pfizer-vaccine-study-data/

BMJ - Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial

https://archive.ph/cpCsq

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635/rr-41


💥💉💥 HERE’S THE LIST: 1,000 Different Studies Show Extensive Evidence of COVID-19 Vaccines Adverse Events - Peer Reviewed Medical Papers Submitted To Various Medical Journals, Evidencing A Multitude Of Adverse Events In Covid-19 Vaccine Recipients. 💥💉💥

https://www.informedchoiceaustralia.com/post/1000-peer-reviewed-studies-questioning-covid-19-vaccine-safety

https://download-files.wixmp.com/ugd/b5e5d1_5941492af6e94bf0905dbabd83b91d5a.pdf?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJpc3MiOiJ1cm46YXBwOmU2NjYzMGU3MTRmMDQ5MGFhZWExZjE0OWIzYjY5ZTMyIiwic3ViIjoidXJuOmFwcDplNjY2MzBlNzE0ZjA0OTBhYWVhMWYxNDliM2I2OWUzMiIsImF1ZCI6WyJ1cm46c2VydmljZTpmaWxlLmRvd25sb2FkIl0sImlhdCI6MTY0OTA1MTczNCwiZXhwIjoxNjQ5MDg3NzQ0LCJqdGkiOiI0Mjg2NDI2YzI2ZmIiLCJvYmoiOltbeyJwYXRoIjoiL3VnZC9iNWU1ZDFfNTk0MTQ5MmFmNmU5NGJmMDkwNWRiYWJkODNiOTFkNWEucGRmIn1dXSwiYXR0YWNobWVudCI6eyJmaWxlbmFtZSI6IlVwZGF0ZWRfUGVlcl9SZXZpZXdlZF9tZWRpY2FsX3BhcGVyc19zdWJtaXR0ZWRfdG9fdmFyaW91c19tZWRpY2FsLnBkZiJ9fQ.oiZ7NM6fGyY0DPGVQ8jSqtCGsEZkH7_8TiyxYCGiTog


COVID-19 Long Haul Symptoms May Be Caused by Changes in Genes

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/covid-19-long-haul-symptoms-may-be-caused-by-changes-in-genes

https://archive.ph/ehOdW

Written by Tony Hicks on May 3, 2021 — Fact checked by Jennifer Chesak


Effect of mutations in the SARS-CoV-2 spike protein on protein stability, cleavage, and cell-cell fusion function.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.01.24.428007v1.full.pdf

https://archive.ph/KjAu5

This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review


SARS-CoV-2 Spike Protein Impairs Endothelial Function via Downregulation of ACE2

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.04.409144v1.full.pdf

https://archive.ph/78obX

Now published in Circulation Research doi: 10.1161/circresaha.121.318902


SARS-CoV-2 spike protein alone may cause lung damage

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-04-sars-cov-spike-protein-lung.html


SARS-CoV-2 spike protein-mediated cell signaling in lung vascular cells

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7680014/

https://archive.ph/OXSnp


Peer-Reviewed and Published in Elsevier Public Health Emergency Collection

Spike Protein Behavior by Derek Lowe

https://blogs.sciencemag.org/pipeline/archives/2021/05/04/spike-protein-behavior

https://archive.ph/8oNhW

Derek Lowe's commentary on drug discovery and the pharma industry. An editorially independent blog from the publishers of Science Translational Medicine. All content is Derek’s own, and he does not in any way speak for his employer.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– CoolAsACucumber 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thank you sir

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– uk9994 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I don't understand all this. I is very established hat viruses cannot exist outside the body's never mind be contagious so talking about bat viruses???? No on can even islate a virus..there is,a large reward for anyone who can

Documentary the terrain...goes through everything..it's a fraud

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– CoolAsACucumber 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

It is very established hat viruses cannot exist outside the body's never mind be contagious so talking about bat viruses????

Viruses definitely have to exist outside the the body for at least a brief period to transfer to a new host.

No on can even isolate a virus..there is,a large reward for anyone who can

True but even the Covid-19 genome that was given by the Wuhan Virology at the CCP (Yes that's right, the covid-19 Genome used in studies and diagnosis comes from China) allegedly doesn't have bat DNA


@Daoyu15

When you claim a 🦇 virus with samples that have no 🦇 in it (incl. the 26Mread dataset, which is also devoid of mammalian reads incl.🦇), you either have a very contaminated lab, or you are committing academic fraud.

https://twitter.com/Daoyu15/status/1494093318522695682

https://archive.ph/ZDNKj

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/10WVShEw9YrbNxGScie48ebojJbfLk6pj

Galaxy1073-[BANAL-52_human].sam

https://files.catbox.moe/rp3wt8.sam

Galaxy1064-[GRCH38(human)_BANAL236].sam

https://files.catbox.moe/z0esir.sam


There is some kind of sickness out there affecting people and there are bona fide genetic and life science researchers that are studying the Covid-19 origins, vaccine effects, treatments, and the scam of politicizing science.

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– uk9994 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They have symptoms generally calls flu...that is thec immune system dealing with toxins in the body....from jabs from chemicals in food drink alcohol bad air perfumes in body lotions etc. Fluoride in water..a known neurotoxin...

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– CoolAsACucumber 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

People losing their sense of taste or smell for months is not the flu although most covid-19 diagnosis are very likely just cases of the flu. Yes there are symptoms that are reactions to nonliving toxins in the body, but there are a small number also some that are actually getting some kind of sickness that doesn't come from the flu, toxins, or vaccines.

How that sickness originated and was let loose is of great importance and to have you deny or ignore it by imposing the belief that there is no sickness at all that originated in Wuhan China is a false flag spread by nefarious people on sites like this one. It is a weapon to keep us from questioning things further and looking for those answers.

Always question things further pede, always look for those answers. Learn to juggle many theories at once with strong sources and information. Don't throw away good information just because you're dead set on one theory. Store it and keep it for later and if more strong sources come out giving that theory credence, add it to what you've already found in the past. Always be distrustful and look further when authority wants to erase information due to "wrongthink".

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– uk9994 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Well I am going by what was reported...that all that was given by Wuhan was a computer code. The chief epidemiologist says there was no isolation of a virus. Reported by Ben fulfords geopolitical report...

I strongly suspect that 5g which has very similar symptoms as flu could also be responsible as is lack of vit. D also similar symptoms.

Wuhan had just switched on 5g and coupled with very polluted air could well have caused the deaths that were said to have occurred.

It cannot be a virus that's for sure!

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– Mister_Winston 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Fact checkers always turn out to be opinion checkers. Their fundamental arguments are not empirical, or they change the argument into a strawman that can be easily struck down.

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– uk9994 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I read they were group of Indians who are paid by Reuters..ho are part of black rock as are all vaxx companies

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– Callmejuls 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I want to see everyone behind them arrested and tried for censoring truth

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– NOT_ADMIN 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

it occurs in nature but they forgot to say, its EXTREMELY Rare (correction: Look below my comment. Is more than extremely rare.)

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– CoolAsACucumber 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

It does not occur in nature. Look up the nucleotide sequence on BLAST yourself and follow the photos.

https://greatawakening.win/p/15HITT17C5/x/c/4OVzXuklFz6

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– NOT_ADMIN 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Awesome research! This alone should be stickied

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– CoolAsACucumber 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Please copy and paste it and share with others on this board or with friends and family

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– TheConservationist 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Forgot?

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– realeagle 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Use their own BS against them: "That is not peer reviewed and has not gone through the acceptable channels of academia and academic journals to be accepted as scientific knowledge."

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– 5moreyears 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

General statement! Proud to be among such beautiful minds.

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– MainAd 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Consider the source. In this war we are in with these important facts and evil products the usual suspects are still the usual suspects & will so what malevolent villians do

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– John_Mac_n_Cheese 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I've been thinking about starting my own fact-checking website and making it noticeably over the top biased and stupid. I'm just not sure if I can do a better job in those 2 areas than what the current sites are able to achieve, even with comedy in mind.

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– catsfive [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Holy shit, I've been thinking about doing something similar.. Trust The science dot com and I would post two scientific explanations, one true, one made up, and ask people to vote

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– NOT_ADMIN 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Check this guy out! https://communities.win/c/GreatAwakening/p/15HITT17C5/anyone-else-sick-of-getting-thes/c/4OVzXuknBrP

Ha, i just realized you are the poster! great work!

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– manxom 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

the time where people are going to wake up using logical arguments is past. those remaining need to be forced to bottom out in some way if they are to be saved.

this requires the harshest tactics. ridicule them and then remove them from your life. if that is enough pressure for them to reconsider, you will have saved them. if not, perhaps the next batch of pain. perhaps then they will snap out.

those who remain in the vaxxer camp are addicts. they are addicted to the propaganda. they are addicted to the pats on the head for being good little do-bees. they are addicted to the feeling of justified disdain.

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– Cheesecakecrush 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Lefty 'fact checking' sites in a nutshell:

Is the sky blue?

Fact: mostly false. The sky is 'azure' which is a shade of blue, but not technically just 'blue.'

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– RealCleanUpPhilly 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

The company won't patent a gene sequence that they don't intend to profit from. Anyone who doesn't get that is a zombie. The fact that the gene sequence occurs broadly in nature is proof we should not permit companies to patent genetic sequences, It doesn't mean that what was patented is engineered or not engineered. There is no relationship. He's trying to say if you have a green apple, that means you can't have a red apple. But a green apple turns into a red apple when it is ripe enough. Natural processes occur naturally and those processes can be engineered and patented. Genetic patenting has been a way for companies to get in the bioweapons game and make money after an attack. It is time for big changes in the law on this.

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– muhqtardtho 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Yeah that's usually the reason why stuff like medical weed gets suppressed by TPTB. Can't patent a plant.

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– boystupid 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Of course you can! Give Archer Daniels Midland a call bro they'll help you out.

Look into GHB. It's a neurotransmitter. Originally available over the counter. Then big pharma came along, scare campaigned everyone into thinking it was a date rape drug that needed to be outlawed TOMORROW.

Once it was made illegal... they patented ... get this... binding it to salt. Like that's somehow original. And now ONE COMPANY is the sole producer and seller of GHB and it costs ~$20,000/year. Before you could buy it for pennies.

They can DEFINITELY patent a plant. And make themselves a monopoly on a plant.

Even an existing one. All they have to do is change one tiny aspect of it, even a none-important aspect then and convince the patent office that it's original.... which is not hard. Again, give Archer Daniels Midland a call.

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– muhqtardtho 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah that's true. That's how we have things like Delta 8 or 9 whichever is the legal one everywhere. The other is only legal if you make it a certain way to stay within the guidelines.

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– Callmejuls 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Like the CBD Delta 8 Gummies I take for pain which works wayyy better than any prescription painkiller, is non addicting and no nasty side effects.

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– Callmejuls 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Good point, doesn’t work

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– Perrin 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

All good points. More so you aren't supposed to be able to patent nature. It's all a contradiction.

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– DRan 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

This is absolutely common practice in the world of GM/transgenics. I could write a book, but just know that this exactly how it works.

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– GaIIowBoob 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

The author is lying. It's only found 2 places.. A patent first then a weapon using that patent.

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