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Juan O Savin Update: We all need to hear - Big Problem (April 17, 2022) (rumble.com) MESSAGE OVER MESSENGER
posted 4 years ago by Qanaut 4 years ago by Qanaut +151 / -0
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– Qanaut [S] 20 points 4 years ago +20 / -0

Clearly you did not read and internalize the flair attached to this post.

Learn to distinguish the message from the messenger.

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– SaveAmerica2021 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

How can you trust a messenger that is constantly telling fibs.......the whole message from messenger thing, while I do understand the point, is OVERUSED.....

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– Qanaut [S] 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Trust is never required.

Verify everything, but do not dismiss the message outright based on a preconceived bias regarding the messenger.

Juan may on occasion stray from the path, as do we all. This Great Awakening has proved to be an organic and ever evolving process that I don't believe any of us fully understand or comprehend. We are all doing our best to make sense of this plan as we travel the boots on the ground path. Folks like Juan are attempting to envision the 10,000 ft view of this plan, and they are using their knowledge of history, politics, economics, and philosophy to guide them.

This is the best that any of us can do at this stage in the plan. Events precede dates, and I do not believe I have ever heard Juan give a specific date. He has predicted the occurrence of events on occasion, but never more than a generalization that something might be coming down the pipeline. Due to the organic nature of the plan, and the nature of moves and countermoves, the plan can shift, ebb, and flow depending upon what moves the Deep State makes and in what order. That someone misinterprets the order of events does not make them wrong, or a liar. We would all be liars if that were the case.

Go easy on our contributors. Juan preaches the word of God, and is doing what he can to help awaken people to the evils of the Cabal. His spirit is in the right place. We need every Juan, Dave, and Clif we can get if we are going to pull off the monumental task of awakening billions of people to the threat of global genocide from the Cabal.

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– DiveAndBait 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

What have you been smoking? Trust is always required.

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– Qanaut [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Perhaps I should elaborate on my meaning.

Trust in character is not required, as it often leads to complacency and lack of personal investigation. It is far better to adopt a general skepticism and equal distrust for all sources, and to subsequently verify all information for ones self, than to decide to trust or not trust information based solely upon the character delivering said information.

This is the entire spirit behind the message over messenger flair on this post.

If you approach The Great Awakening with this attitude, you will open doors and avenues to information that would otherwise remain closed, and have a far more healthy outlook and interpretation of events knowing that you have done your due diligence in researching each topic for yourself.

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– Greekish 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I agree with Qanaut. Let's not shoot the messenger. Yes "Juan" appears to get predictions wrong - such as the one a year ago where he was certain that something (I forget what) would happen by April. But I, too, have made predictions that turned out to be wrong. I find what "Juan" says to be interesting and usually well thought out and plausible. I appreciate input from all sources so that I can use my discernment. Heck, I've even listened to Alex Jones a couple of times without jumping out the window.

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– TCPatriot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He literally let Field Mcconnel introduce him as JFK Jr., let a gullible girl with a cooking channel change her entire format to promote his deception and huckstered an ebook hinting that he was JFK Jr.

He alludes to some connection with Trump & Q as he regurgitates a memorized trope and throws in bogus predictions.

And was also involved in an investment scam with a "V" character.

What's not to love?

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– ACTS1711 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I agree. Why aren't people up in arms with Dave's "Let's talk about your health" grifting? Juan doesn't do that. I believe money's made from that kid by the side of the road goes to charity. There's nothing wrong earning a little money to keep the lights on. How does this place stay afloat? Who runs this place? If it turned out to be Juan, oh the irony!

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Not sure why you like to promote Larping Grifters....

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– p8riot 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Knowing the context of a quote / message is just as important as the quote itself.

Like that one quote that gets constantly misattributed to a philosopher that was actually said by a neo nazi. It's put people in hot water.

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– Patriot_Perks 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Can you at least TLTR summarize the message?

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– DiveAndBait 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Yep, can we stop pinning grifters up? Really make us look bad.

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– DontTreadOnIT 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I disagree strongly with the 'no showboating.' Juan has carefully crafted an image of himself as a mysterious figure who knows more than he is telling. This is to keep people coming back for more.

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– Mr_A 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

He pushes his books hard. Or at least he did in 2020.

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– MudFlood 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

His book is physically BEAUTIFUL and super informative. Got a copy for mom and she loved it. Great overview.

I have no problem with someone writing and selling a book. Just asking for money, now that is a problem.

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– ACTS1711 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I actually enjoyed his movie.

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– Godisgloryy 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeap.

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– CuteCatEnthusiast 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Yeah, amazing how many try to make money during the apocalypse. shallow.

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– TheBRAINz 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Authors do that.

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– electricbroth1 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I found the interview to be informative. I'm going to send him money, so the "paytriot" angle is immaterial to me.

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– BabylonNTing 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

This grifter talks about himself for most of his interviews and gives a tiny nugget that usually never pans out.

HARD PASS

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– BabylonNTing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I was going to mention the JFKjr part, but couldnt find a link to back up the claim that people thought he was JFKjr and this grifter ran with it instead of being honest and saying something like, ‘I appreciate the thought, but no I am not him.’

That’s what sealed the deal with me as a shady character.

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– TCPatriot 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Why are we pinning Wayne R Willot? A man who makes his living alluding to be JFK Jr and having been involved with shady investment scams?

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– TCPatriot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Thank you.

I used to be a big fan and listened to him religiously. After a while something dodn't seem right and then I actually fell for his hucksterism and bought his ebook.

Right after I paid, I felt weird and started researching. Ick!

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– mac1221 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yup. That whole crowd of Savin, aka Wayne Ronald Willot, Timothy Holmseth, and Field McConnel are grifters. The number of people that still follow this fraud is amazing.

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– patriotfortrump 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I dont care if you like Juan or not but this guy is a walking encyclopedia of American history, The Bible, Satanism, and the globalist cabal. So you dont like the guy because he talks about his book for less than 1% of the time and you miss the other 99% of the time when hes telling you about shit you dont know. No wonder we are in the situation we are in. I dont personally much like the guy either but Im smart enough to move past that and learn things that are very relevant to our current situation.

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– RevolutionCatalyst 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

All the people hating on him are probably See Eye Aye.

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– patriotfortrump 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I just don’t get it so the guy has ideas they disagree with or says things they don’t like so that means The literal encyclopedia of knowledge he has about current events is null and void? That’s just dumb as fuck.

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– ACTS1711 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yes I agree not to mention there are trolls here.

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– ACTS1711 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

And he's at Mar-a-Lago, a lot. In meetings. If he paraded around especially after making a movie where he confirms he's a confidant of President Trump, and if it turned out he's not, I don't think he would survive that lie. Too many insiders with ties to Trump would have outed him long ago.

I agree about the trolls because they've come after me which means I'm right over the target. Now here it's a two edge sword. If you are always NIICCCEE and get upvotes why you're doing your job according to some mods, but really you're not.

I love it when they come after me and down vote me especially about Jews, Flat Earth and NASA because they confirm I am right.

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– ACTS1711 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Ditto. The way I see Juan is he will throw out dis info from time to time and even Q said that was necessary.

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– ACTS1711 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I agree. He seasons much of his information with biblical things of God.

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– CarbonWinter 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Hard to say but Juan seems like a grifter to me. He does know a lot abt the occult though. I’ll give him that.

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– Qanaut [S] 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Message over messenger.

Say whatever you like about Juan's character. His messages are always on point and relevant to the times.

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– p8riot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Carlin hated Christians. His earlier stuff was decent but he turned into a bitter hateful curmudgeon, albeit with the right outlook on government.

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– Munchaussen 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This....

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– ThePowerOfPrayer 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Carlin was raised Catholic so I don't blame him for calling them out.

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– p8riot 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

He didn't just shit on Catholics, he shit on God and preached a very elementary caricature of theology.

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– CarbonWinter 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Fair. But a bit of a PAYtriot still which puts me off.

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– southbeatz 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

The medbed bs people talk about in videos will never happen because big pharma would never allow it. Big pharma only is interested in treatments, never any actual cure for anything.

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– ACTS1711 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I believe it's one of Tesla's inventions. There might be some validity to it.

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– southbeatz 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Big pharma still has enough money to control governments and governments control us because we never seem to be able to get enough people to stand up against these types of things together. It's the age old thing, I can't remember the wording offhand of it but government doesn't fear us because there are never enough of us actually getting along and definitely never enough of us standing together to ever be able to make true change in society.

Whether or not medbeds are real or not doesn't really matter because it would just be among the seemingly endless amount of things that government and the elites have controlled throughout history. Covid would have been nothing more than a new strain of the flu if enough people had stood together against it across the world, same with masks and covid restrictions.

If you have a store that says wear a mask and everyone in the store is not wearing a mask then the store would have to stop playing their mask games but if there are 50 people in the store and only 2 or 3 choose not to wear a mask then in the liberal areas, those 2 or 3 people would be told to leave and even risk arrest.

Way back on Jan6 if every Trump voter, all 80 million plus went to DC, obviously there wouldn't be enough space but the optics of it would have forced government to stop with the election theft. The same can be said in Canada. When we don't have the numbers then we simply don't have the power. Most people choose to just keep living their life as if nothing ever changes and as long as people choose to do that then it's unlikely any true change will ever happen.

Trump showed that it takes more than 1 person or a million people to make any actual lasting changes. People have to wake up to the real world we live in and they have to actually want change and that is why we're still in this mess we're all in because this is something that never happens. A large enough number of people never seem to fully unite for something and because of that, government maintains control over our lives.

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– ACTS1711 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

You make valid points but the power of we the people were made null and void by communists infiltrators. The firewalls are the Military and our 2nd Amendment. Q team said no civil war. At some point the Military needs to step in and reveal to the people everything that's been going on but not before the fake news and the cabal is taken down.

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– ACTS1711 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I haven't done a lot of research but if big pharma is against it, it must be real.

Well unless Elon Musk says it looks so real it must be fake. 😉

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– truthloveliberty 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I’ve never heard him mention Medbeds.

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– Bedminster 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Soon as I see his name I skip right on by.

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– Qanaut [S] 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Skip to the 6:00 mark for the Juan O Savin interview.

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– ACTS1711 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

There's sure a lot of self righteous people here. Whoever this Juan O Savin is, isn't he entitled to have his own personal life and a job? I know a mod on another channel that knows him and she is a sweetheart. She has nothing but good things to say about Juan. She says he's well to do and owns his own company and evidently has employees which means he's not a grifter. Trolls also flood in and attack Juan.

Didn't Brent also speak highly of him as well on a personal level?

He that is without sin let him first cast a stone at him.

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– SaveAmerica2021 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

His job is grifting lol.......

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– JDVETERAN 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I want to watch this, but it’s too late, I’ll save it for the morning. In the mean time, what’s the big problem?

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– dipchunk 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Same boat here. Curious what the problem is but can’t watch tonight.

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– Dontstopbelieving 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

What’s the problem?

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– therobots 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Listen... or don't.... we get it, many of you don't trust him. Thank you for shouting it from the rooftops.

I'm writing this while I'm listening to the interview. I maintain an open mind.

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– uk9994 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

This guy just gave Robert David Steele traitor a very good eulogy his week...not only did RDS accuse trump of sex with a 13 y o LD child but ran for president ..failed and was then mentioned by fulford of being asked to serve instead of trump by some Chinese dragons....all this was known ...

I thought he had been arrested for treason

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– AwakeAwareNow 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

There is lots of evidence backing up the snake venom. They put all types of venoms in drugs. People just need to spend a little time doing their own research. Never been impressed wtih this guy

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– GoatInTheHat 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Juan O Savin doesn't mention the snake water thing once...

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– GoatInTheHat 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Oh thank you I missed that! Did I hear that right? Juan O Savin just confirmed snake venom in the shot?

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– GoatInTheHat 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Yeah, but who cares what the host says lol. He's just another talking head so far as I know. If Juan called it out that would carry some more weight.

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– ravonaf 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Let me guess. The numbers don't add up?

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