I did too. At the time I thought, "Why is he doing that?" Now I can check that off my list (small list) of things I disagreed with Trump on. The other items are some of the people he put on his staff such as that warmonger Bolton.
When you are in a rough neighborhood and want to be safe do you have a Chihuahua on a leash or a pitbull?
President Trump wanted to incentivize peaceful negotiations with apex predators. Bolton snarling and begging to be let off his leash encouraged global predators to prefer doing things Trumps way.
Peaceniks like Rand Paul would be as easy to dismiss as a push over mom. All bark no bite. Ignored.
I bet the Supreme Court Justices are looking up how to use bump stocks, how to shoulder and AR. I sort of think they will vote in favor again. Having the left trying to kill out side your home, will clear up any confusion on 2A.
I did. I also criticized him on the tomahawk missile.
I'm not going to apologize for those criticisms, however. Trump has the capability to prove me wrong, and this thread is possibly a way in which he has - and that's a good thing!
Interesting. Trumps tomahawk missile decision was when I first began to truly appreciate Trumps genius.
I was wondering how President Trump was going to evade the obvious trap set by the DC Swamp Demons. Or if the Swamp Demons had, indeed, trapped him.
They clearly wanted Assad deposed via a ramped up war in Syria with a resulting flood of refugees. If Trump refused to do what they wanted they would screech that Trump was Obama feckless and Putin's puppet.
Obviously, Trump couldnt just ignore what happened or side with Putin's Intel over what Americas Intel was saying.
I was riveted by the dilemma he faced, then enchanted when, by God, the Mad Lad evaded their traps so elegantly!!!
The screeching from easily triggered snowflake "supporters" was a fascinating.bonus.
Ah yes, a ruling that is now set in stone adds a bumpy path to making a similar ruling in the future regarding methods to restrain arms. The whole point wasn't to attempt "ban" bump stocks, it was a mocking blow to call them on their shit since we know they were acting out in a partisan manner. NeverTrump got them on that one. Good analysis!
it's almost as if he's been using Tesla's time machine to go forward in order to come back and proceed correctly..... any chance that he's driving a DeLorean on the weekends????
Admittedly, the US Code is a long list of cluster that is not easily digested. But it is worth reading the NFA, the Gun Control Act of 1968, the Firearms Owner Protection Act, and the various resulting regulations implementing this in the federal registry.
You might not be aware that a significant portion of these acts provide the Attorney General with discretion to make determinations on certain things. For easy example, 18 USC 922(a)(4) allows the Attorney General to authorize the (1)transfer; (2) possession; and (3) transport "in interstate commerce" of NFA firearms (SBR/SBS/Machine gun/Destructive device) "consistent with public safety and necessity" to members of the general public. Might be a good reason we need a badass AG...
So if we presume that courts aren't going to invalidate any of these gun control acts of Congress, the executive can direct the AG to utilize his discretion provided by Congress to do a lot of things we wouldn't like.
I think recent case law provides a solid but not certain framework to invalidate portions of these unconstitutional acts. Much of the basis is "suitable for sporting purposes." Well, plainly, we have a right to keep and bear arms for reasons beyond sport. Assuming that nobody is going to try to argue that killing a lunatic breaking into your house at 3am with a firearm is a sporting activity. Likewise, in the event of a riot, although some might consider sniping Antifa from the comfort of their own driveway while playing drinking games a "sport" in this case; most people would shit themselves if having to fend a mob off from their home.
Also, it is difficult to consider that Congress can pass a lawful tax (NFA tax stamps on SBS/SBR/MG/DD) that gives the executive discretion on whether to seek it. While I've not pondered this question until posing it here, I suspect that this would not be a lawful delegation of Congressional tax power.
So this isn't a 3d move here, imo. But a SCOTUS that isn't interested in hearing these cases is useful in that we only need 1 of the 13 circuit courts of appeal to enjoin this nonsense for it to take effect across the country.
It's before SCOTUS. I have a feeling we are not going to like the outcome. On the upside, its not about bump stocks per se; it is about "Chevron Deference" which is one of the more egregious concepts to come out of the 1980s SCOTUS as it relates to the executive implementation of regulations. In essence, if there is "ambiguity" in a statute and the agency's construction of it is "reasonable" then the courts must defer to the agency's interpretation. We do have a SCOTUS that has expressed skepticism of the wisdom in keeping Chevron. It is truly a heinous and egregious act of judicial overreach. This "deference" is the highest court in the land abrogating lower court authority inherent in Article III of the Constitution for judicial review; which includes interpreting statutes. Its plainly unconstitutional.
This would be a good time for them to put an end to decades of abuse from the administrative state. For good reading (or if insomniac and not responsive to strong drugs) look up cases on the EPA and egregious abuse of environmental regulations enacted under Chevron Deference.
Trump tried to ban bump stocks which make a semiautomatic firearm rapid fire. Courts said it was no good. Now if firearms get further restrictions, the precedent set by the courts should in theory stand, nullifying executive orders that may be set by the administration.
Bingo. Trump is, literally, a genius. The way geniuses think is beyond the imagination/comprehension of most people. Ironically, throughout history, "educated" midrange IQ opiners always believe that their eras geniuses are stupid and/or insane. Example? Benji Shapiros opines about Trump are sterotypical midwittery.
Personally, I advise Letting Trump Be Trump and enjoying the rare privilege of helping a transformative genius complete his greatest masterpiece rather than getting triggered by every move he has to make to destroy the Global Swamp Demons, Save America and turn his visionary MAGA Project into reality.
WWG1WGA.
Captain and crew, working together.
White Squall movie trailer.
Helping to put a party in power who wants to eliminate the 2A, the Constitution and our Constitutional Republic because they were triggered by muh bump stock.
Suicidal snowflakes are a fascinating subset of humanity.
Sly as a fox, he is.
I did too. At the time I thought, "Why is he doing that?" Now I can check that off my list (small list) of things I disagreed with Trump on. The other items are some of the people he put on his staff such as that warmonger Bolton.
Bolton's easy, he needed to look like a warmonger himself to gain the respect of NK. Can't be a menace when you have doves advising you.
When you are in a rough neighborhood and want to be safe do you have a Chihuahua on a leash or a pitbull?
President Trump wanted to incentivize peaceful negotiations with apex predators. Bolton snarling and begging to be let off his leash encouraged global predators to prefer doing things Trumps way.
Peaceniks like Rand Paul would be as easy to dismiss as a push over mom. All bark no bite. Ignored.
how many people here and thedonald criticized him?
We still have to see if courts will stand on the same principals.
I bet the Supreme Court Justices are looking up how to use bump stocks, how to shoulder and AR. I sort of think they will vote in favor again. Having the left trying to kill out side your home, will clear up any confusion on 2A.
I did. I also criticized him on the tomahawk missile.
I'm not going to apologize for those criticisms, however. Trump has the capability to prove me wrong, and this thread is possibly a way in which he has - and that's a good thing!
Interesting. Trumps tomahawk missile decision was when I first began to truly appreciate Trumps genius.
I was wondering how President Trump was going to evade the obvious trap set by the DC Swamp Demons. Or if the Swamp Demons had, indeed, trapped him.
They clearly wanted Assad deposed via a ramped up war in Syria with a resulting flood of refugees. If Trump refused to do what they wanted they would screech that Trump was Obama feckless and Putin's puppet.
Obviously, Trump couldnt just ignore what happened or side with Putin's Intel over what Americas Intel was saying.
I was riveted by the dilemma he faced, then enchanted when, by God, the Mad Lad evaded their traps so elegantly!!!
The screeching from easily triggered snowflake "supporters" was a fascinating.bonus.
its cool man....just saying we shouldnt lose our cool so quickly
That is what I say to people who questioned Trumps move on the bump stocks....he knows more than we do and Im going to trust him
Trust but verify of course VS tripping out every time he does something that we dont agree with......
This is the likely take
I am a huge 2nd ammendment supporter and somehow missed this ruling...thanks for posting and Trump did indeed set this up....Genius!
5D chess... Damn.
Ah yes, a ruling that is now set in stone adds a bumpy path to making a similar ruling in the future regarding methods to restrain arms. The whole point wasn't to attempt "ban" bump stocks, it was a mocking blow to call them on their shit since we know they were acting out in a partisan manner. NeverTrump got them on that one. Good analysis!
Guns are safe
it's almost as if he's been using Tesla's time machine to go forward in order to come back and proceed correctly..... any chance that he's driving a DeLorean on the weekends????
Admittedly, the US Code is a long list of cluster that is not easily digested. But it is worth reading the NFA, the Gun Control Act of 1968, the Firearms Owner Protection Act, and the various resulting regulations implementing this in the federal registry.
You might not be aware that a significant portion of these acts provide the Attorney General with discretion to make determinations on certain things. For easy example, 18 USC 922(a)(4) allows the Attorney General to authorize the (1)transfer; (2) possession; and (3) transport "in interstate commerce" of NFA firearms (SBR/SBS/Machine gun/Destructive device) "consistent with public safety and necessity" to members of the general public. Might be a good reason we need a badass AG...
So if we presume that courts aren't going to invalidate any of these gun control acts of Congress, the executive can direct the AG to utilize his discretion provided by Congress to do a lot of things we wouldn't like.
I think recent case law provides a solid but not certain framework to invalidate portions of these unconstitutional acts. Much of the basis is "suitable for sporting purposes." Well, plainly, we have a right to keep and bear arms for reasons beyond sport. Assuming that nobody is going to try to argue that killing a lunatic breaking into your house at 3am with a firearm is a sporting activity. Likewise, in the event of a riot, although some might consider sniping Antifa from the comfort of their own driveway while playing drinking games a "sport" in this case; most people would shit themselves if having to fend a mob off from their home.
Also, it is difficult to consider that Congress can pass a lawful tax (NFA tax stamps on SBS/SBR/MG/DD) that gives the executive discretion on whether to seek it. While I've not pondered this question until posing it here, I suspect that this would not be a lawful delegation of Congressional tax power.
So this isn't a 3d move here, imo. But a SCOTUS that isn't interested in hearing these cases is useful in that we only need 1 of the 13 circuit courts of appeal to enjoin this nonsense for it to take effect across the country.
Why did Obama say that was legal? Don’t libs always want to restrict any kind of guns? They needed it for their false flags?
Except the ATF classification still stands and they are still illegal. https://www.jurist.org/news/2021/12/bump-stock-ban-affirmed-after-us-appeals-court-splits/
When we get back to the original Constitution, all gun laws will be overturned.
https://www.scotusblog.com/case-files/cases/gun-owners-of-america-inc-v-garland/
It's before SCOTUS. I have a feeling we are not going to like the outcome. On the upside, its not about bump stocks per se; it is about "Chevron Deference" which is one of the more egregious concepts to come out of the 1980s SCOTUS as it relates to the executive implementation of regulations. In essence, if there is "ambiguity" in a statute and the agency's construction of it is "reasonable" then the courts must defer to the agency's interpretation. We do have a SCOTUS that has expressed skepticism of the wisdom in keeping Chevron. It is truly a heinous and egregious act of judicial overreach. This "deference" is the highest court in the land abrogating lower court authority inherent in Article III of the Constitution for judicial review; which includes interpreting statutes. Its plainly unconstitutional.
This would be a good time for them to put an end to decades of abuse from the administrative state. For good reading (or if insomniac and not responsive to strong drugs) look up cases on the EPA and egregious abuse of environmental regulations enacted under Chevron Deference.
ELI5?
Trump tried to ban bump stocks which make a semiautomatic firearm rapid fire. Courts said it was no good. Now if firearms get further restrictions, the precedent set by the courts should in theory stand, nullifying executive orders that may be set by the administration.
Ahhh, thank you!
Man, Trump's a brilliant strategist. I could never pull something like this off.
Few could!
Bingo. Trump is, literally, a genius. The way geniuses think is beyond the imagination/comprehension of most people. Ironically, throughout history, "educated" midrange IQ opiners always believe that their eras geniuses are stupid and/or insane. Example? Benji Shapiros opines about Trump are sterotypical midwittery.
Personally, I advise Letting Trump Be Trump and enjoying the rare privilege of helping a transformative genius complete his greatest masterpiece rather than getting triggered by every move he has to make to destroy the Global Swamp Demons, Save America and turn his visionary MAGA Project into reality.
WWG1WGA. Captain and crew, working together. White Squall movie trailer.
That does make it difficult for Biden to try an EO for any gun control.
My former roommate was convinced trump was for gun control because of this EO, and didn't vote for him specifically for that reason.
Helping to put a party in power who wants to eliminate the 2A, the Constitution and our Constitutional Republic because they were triggered by muh bump stock.
Suicidal snowflakes are a fascinating subset of humanity.
Wow. I had completely forgotten this!
"Precedent" is bullshit to me.
"Precedent" is bullshit to me.
Chooses to reject reality. Ok. Relevance for those who aren't idiosyncratic escapists?
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/precedent
A cop-out for not making your own decision (not you, Cozette).