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US soldier's Zippo lighter from the Vietnam war (media.gab.com) 🔍 Notable
posted 3 years ago by undine53 3 years ago by undine53 +476 / -0
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– SBDAmerican 50 points 3 years ago +50 / -0

Sad, but true. I'm looking forward to the Awakening putting an end to all these wars for political interests, not the interests of humanity. Yes, we must be eternally vigilant to defend or nation and people, but only for that reason. I'm beginning to believe that none of us alive have ever seen a war that was legitimately fought. All the wars I can think of were the result of apparent manipulation of some sort. I do not wish to demean the sacrifices made by all our veterans by any means. WE HAVE ALL BEEN DECEIVED AND MANIPULATED. We were led to believe that world wars were necessary, but in hindsight we can see the truth. "Kingmakers" across the globe decided to sacrifice our best and brightest for their own benefit, we can see that clearly now. Our military should be used to protect our nation and our people, ONLY. Veterans, I salute you all. Thank you all for your service.

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– 74nooffub 17 points 3 years ago +17 / -0

Well said! I have little to add but just wanted to add my voice of support. To willingly give one's life to defend their family/neighbors/country is to show the greatest love mankind has available to give.

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– AlFreeman 13 points 3 years ago +13 / -0

100%. WWII was the last technically legitimate war because it's the last time congress declared one. Rightly or wrongly, it was done legally. Everything since has been unconstitutional deep state bullshit. Why? The military industrial complex was born just prior to entering WWII. It didn't take long for them to gain full control over our government. Kennedy's death sealed the deal. Trump's the first time they've been challenged in my lifetime.

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– BigFreedomBoner 7 points 3 years ago +7 / -0

We were baited into war with a clever false flag by proxy, so disagree as to legitimacy.

War of 1812 was the country's last legitimate war.

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– VetforTrump 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

At least that war we were invaded. It was still over our refusal to re sign the bank contract in 1811.

1887 Hamilton entered us into the Rothschild system. Hamiltons real last name...Levine.

1811 we told them to piss off when it came up for renewal.

We.were so weak we couldn't even make the British navy leave new york harbor. They sat there and occupied for 6 years after the war and finally left in 1816 after six years and there wasn't shit we could do. Deep state got their hooks into us then.

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– Pollycracker 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Hey Al, you are the truth.

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– VetforTrump 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Still fake war by deep state. Unnecessary.

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– LordKekingtonEsquire 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sad But True

Such a great Metallica song!

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– 50StateLandslide 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

They get a lot of flak for the Black Album but Wherever I May Roam and Sad But True kick ass

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– Mountaing8 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Amen. I admire and am grateful for all who are willing to die for their country. But I believe all wars have been fought for the Rothschilds, who are evil people.

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– Dudley_Doright 16 points 3 years ago +16 / -0

I saw this posted on a wall in RTC San Diego in 1973 and memorized it:

“We the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are accomplishing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, with so little for so long we can now do anything with nothing.”

If you ever served in US Military those words ring true. Here we are, changing the world, against the wishes of those who will ultimately benefit with nothing but a thumb and a phone, and our minds.

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– seadevil110 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

Reading through these comments is, in a way, refreshing. I'm an oldie, but not a retard. When I got my library card at age 6, I began asking questions about what I read in the papers. About Korea. About how two communist giants fought the US to a standstill. I asked, "---, the US just a few years ago obliterated the most powerful military ever assembled in the Pacific. That military had already defeated China and made the west Pacific an empire. How did a defeated nation fight us to a standstill?" The answer, invariably, "When you grow up, you'll understand." I did. It was a UN war. And I opposed Vietnam; got drafted in 1965, went through electronics ASW and aircrew/SAR and all that crap. One and a half WestPacs and one year of CSAR in the waters off Korea (Pueblo) and Vietnam (mostly North SAR, rescue services in North Vietnam).

But I notice that the main purpose of Vietnam isn't mentioned. You should do some research on this, not that it makes any difference to know it at this point. What, exactly, led to the incursion in Nam? Why? Don't go for standard answers like "domino effect". Don't use the dates on the web: many are flat out wrong. The clowns were hard at work supplying drugs produced in SE Asia. The drugs were brought back, to a great extent, in coffins. Coffins aren't inspected. The drugs went to inner cities, black communities and so on, coincident with LBJ's Great Society, which destroyed every thriving black/Mexican community by welfare, destruction of family, and bankrupting of businesses. Nobody noticed. Nobody noticed because the flower children (products of mkultra etc) and the Vietnam war. The propaganda from 'trusted' anchors like Crankcase turned the older generation AND the younger generation against those who were military. On one side, because we were baby killers, on another because we were "losing". Precious few back in "The World" had the faintest idea of the truth. Look at the map of where agent orange was used. Think of tactics. Now say it was intended that the US win. EVERY battle was in South Vietnam: you cannot defeat an enemy if you are ALWAYS defensive.
Every war since II has been the same.

I'd certainly enjoy seeing a lot of people hang for what they've done. BTW, in my interactions with a lot of soldiers/Marines/AF, I never saw a lighter embossed with that.

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– Kunkussion 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

And isn't it insane to think the mass psychosis they pulled off then to instigate war in the way they did is playing out again for some people, the second or third time, and they still haven't caught on? (WWII-Today).. I have a special respect for all vets, no matter their duty, just because of this. Even if they themselves don't realize it yet

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– VetforTrump 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Oh i realize it. When I first did it sickened my stomach.

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– harkk 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

Original, I believe was referring to bureaucracy aka deep state of the time and place.

“We, the unwilling, led by the unknowing, are doing the impossible for the ungrateful. We have done so much, for so long, with so little, we are now qualified to do anything with nothing.”

― Konstantin Josef Jireček

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– deleted 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0
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– pente1776 3 points 3 years ago +3 / -0

One of the most powerful memories for me is seeing returning vets being treated horribly. This memory is foundational to my hatred of liberals.

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– TheEternalTwoWeeks 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

All so that we can have actual demons reading dirty stories to ignorant lefties in public libraries

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– six_sigma_IQ 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Oof. That's rough.

I don't use that symbol anymore because it's an older symbol with a prior/deeper meaning, but I get the point that's being made.

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– Rootcause 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

"All wars are bankers wars" - General Smedley Butler "War is a racket" - General Smedley Butler

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– undine53 [S] 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Good read.

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– Rootcause 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Sure is. I bought copies to hand out to my fellow military vets. Some wouldn't even read it. They don't want to believe that we are being played.

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– VetforTrump 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I've seen that saying. Most true.

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– paradoxAUS 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Broken Cross...

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– Mountaing8 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Supposedly semaphore ND for Nuclear Disarmament.

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– dtxman75 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I have heard alot of catch phrases quotes and expressions in my lifetime. Havent seen this one before. Rarely am I moved by such things. This particular statement in context is quite meaningful and especially profound. This is coming from a veterans perspective. Thanks for providing something meaningful as a post.

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– scoripowarrior 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

I showed this to my husband, who is a Viet Nam vet, and he commented just how truthful this message is/was.

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– CQVFEFE 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Good ol' military discipline and esprit de corps

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– Endless_Summer99 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

If they're unwilling, then why do they do it? The power to say no is real. The people who are willing to fight for the security of a nation allowed themselves to be fooled into doing so for the unqualified, against the unfortunate, and the ungrateful people are left alone, unprotected in their own homes, abandoned by the "unwilling".

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– SuzanneX 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Back then if you were 18 you were automatically draft eligible unless deferred due to marriage or college.

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– dtxman75 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Ever heard of a draft? Maybe think a little before saying something like the power of saying no is real.

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– Endless_Summer99 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You can say no to the draft. Refusing to fight for the jews is a right of life.

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– dtxman75 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

You must be around 15 to 20 years old. Say no to the draft. Is a very ridiculous statement. You obviously dont know anything about it or way to young and naive to make that kind of statement.

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– Endless_Summer99 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Just because they'll come and round you up doesn't make it right. I'm talking about what is just. No person at any time is under any obligation to fight. Forcing one to do so makes you in the wrong. So yes, you can say no to the draft. Will it come with consequences, yes. Are those consequences just? No.

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– dtxman75 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

So you went and googled the draft it looks like. Yeah philosophically, yeah I agree with what you're saying but its not reality. I dont agree with your perspective on no person should be required to fight. Freedom isnt free. Yeah i know current events, we are free, etc. Etc. Thats what drove the foundation of our freedom that paved for today and us, still free more than near anywhere else even in this shit show.

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– Endless_Summer99 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

I don't think the founding army was built off of a draft. If you have to force people to fight, you're doing something wrong. It's really that simple.

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– deleted 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

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