Some folks keep posting references to the holodomor and claim it wasn't taught in public schools, but it most certainly was taught down here. I understand nothing much at all is taught these days but back in the 60-70s it was taught here.
Yeah, stalin did intentionally starve millions, same as all good dictators and tyrants do. At Yalta, think it was Yalta, Churchill remarked that God was on our side and stalin laughed, said he had the devil with him.
Mao starved about 40 million, stalin was not alone in his Evils , history is full of such devils.
I was in high school the same years, but NYC publik edumakashun and don't remember it, probably because it was never taught. Can't be having a different opinion, can we.
“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.”
— Henry Kissinger
Stalin took their food to cover a famine for Russia. The original famine was actually caused by bad weather, then made much worse by literal German Nazis using Ukrainian rebel nationalists to attempt to shatter the Soviet Union by starving it's core Russian state ahead of Hitler's invasion. The Nazis encouraged Ukraine faers to stop sending any food at all back to Russia in attempt to starve as many Russians as possible besause Russia and was the USSRs industrial and educated base.
So Stalin sent the Red Army to Ukraine, took all the food back to Russia, and punished rebelling Ukraine farmers by leaving them nothing so they staved to death by the millions.
Completely asshole move, but not quite the same as today. Modern globalists are even worse because they are fucking over farmers unprevoked for personal profits.
The Nazis that want to Ukraine then, are the root of the persistent nazi problem modern Ukraine has today as well.
You have your timeline against you. The Holodomor took place in 1932-1933. Hitler did not come to power until 1934. It was only after 1941 when Germany decided to go to war with Russia that German forces entered the Ukraine and solicited collaboration.
The Ukrainian people did hold back some food,cause the commies gave them shit for money and their were no products coming out of the cites to sell them items they needed. Why sell your grain,if you can't buy shoes? That's the heart of the NEP.
This nazi conspiracy sounds like the usual commie blather. They held back pretty much what they needed,to plant again and to have a prudent reserve,for bad years.
I graduated high school in 2006- we learned about Hitler every year, but I don’t think we ever discussed Stalin, mao, pol pot, or any other dictator. I had to learn about all that on my own
Can't tell kids about all the other dictators that murdered a hundred million people. Oh no, the only dictator in the 20th century was Hitler, and he single-handedly killed 6 million Jews.
For the love of god watch Europa The Last Battle on rumble/Bitchute. The first 3 episodes go into detail about what really happened during the Holodomor and what Stalin did to innocent farmers.
Stuff of nightmares, far worse than anything Hitler ever did.
What would be the problem with Dresden? It was a central transit point for the German Army and a production center for (e.g.) missile guidance control systems. Or do you prefer the fire-bombing of Tokyo?
Good one I was thinking of European theater Tokyo is far better example..... Dresden was the indiscriminate bombing more so the historical architecture destruction i like old buildings.
It was night bombing. There was no such thing as "discriminate" night bombing. Only daylight raids with the Norden bombsight came (not very) close, and the night fire-bombing strategy mostly never came together. Except at Hamburg and Dresden. It is a sad fact of war that military targets are always legitimate. The defending party has a positive obligation to keep his military activity separated from the public. (I can't remember if it is the Hague Convention or the Geneva Convention.) Ever wondered why our ICBM bases are strewn all over the wide open western states where nobody lives?
But the nerves on both sides had gotten too raw. The Germans started the Blitz against England, and tit leads to tat. They later attempted to pursue it further with the V-1 and V-2 weapons. There's a good book on the subject that unwraps the nature of the military targets in Dresden.
No one likes to talk about the 70-million Christians the jewish communists killed in Russia. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote about in “The Gulag Archipelago.” Just more buried history.
Some folks keep posting references to the holodomor and claim it wasn't taught in public schools, but it most certainly was taught down here. I understand nothing much at all is taught these days but back in the 60-70s it was taught here.
Yeah, stalin did intentionally starve millions, same as all good dictators and tyrants do. At Yalta, think it was Yalta, Churchill remarked that God was on our side and stalin laughed, said he had the devil with him.
Mao starved about 40 million, stalin was not alone in his Evils , history is full of such devils.
Yeah, Evil exists, we know.
I have to ask, did you go to school up north?
I bet you heard about the Holocaust though
Over and over and over and over...
"In my mid 50s... never heard of Holodomor until a couple years ago."
Same here. It was never mentioned in my school(s) in the Fifties and Sixties.
Went through high school 99-03, it was NOT taught, not even mentioned.
Can you imagine how many more things aren't being taught anymore?
I was in high school the same years, but NYC publik edumakashun and don't remember it, probably because it was never taught. Can't be having a different opinion, can we.
i grew up in early noughites - not taught here in UK. But I know all about black slave trade lol
Thanks for your input.
“Who controls the food supply controls the people; who controls the energy can control whole continents; who controls money can control the world.” — Henry Kissinger
7illion Ukranians.
Stalin took their food to cover a famine for Russia. The original famine was actually caused by bad weather, then made much worse by literal German Nazis using Ukrainian rebel nationalists to attempt to shatter the Soviet Union by starving it's core Russian state ahead of Hitler's invasion. The Nazis encouraged Ukraine faers to stop sending any food at all back to Russia in attempt to starve as many Russians as possible besause Russia and was the USSRs industrial and educated base.
So Stalin sent the Red Army to Ukraine, took all the food back to Russia, and punished rebelling Ukraine farmers by leaving them nothing so they staved to death by the millions.
Completely asshole move, but not quite the same as today. Modern globalists are even worse because they are fucking over farmers unprevoked for personal profits.
The Nazis that want to Ukraine then, are the root of the persistent nazi problem modern Ukraine has today as well.
You have your timeline against you. The Holodomor took place in 1932-1933. Hitler did not come to power until 1934. It was only after 1941 when Germany decided to go to war with Russia that German forces entered the Ukraine and solicited collaboration.
The Ukrainian people did hold back some food,cause the commies gave them shit for money and their were no products coming out of the cites to sell them items they needed. Why sell your grain,if you can't buy shoes? That's the heart of the NEP.
This nazi conspiracy sounds like the usual commie blather. They held back pretty much what they needed,to plant again and to have a prudent reserve,for bad years.
I graduated high school in 2006- we learned about Hitler every year, but I don’t think we ever discussed Stalin, mao, pol pot, or any other dictator. I had to learn about all that on my own
Same here. And I graduated high school forty years before you.
Can't tell kids about all the other dictators that murdered a hundred million people. Oh no, the only dictator in the 20th century was Hitler, and he single-handedly killed 6 million Jews.
And…another rabbit hole to dig. That’s why I love this place. I’ve learned so much here.
Arminian Genocides another one
Thanks… I will look on that one too
For the love of god watch Europa The Last Battle on rumble/Bitchute. The first 3 episodes go into detail about what really happened during the Holodomor and what Stalin did to innocent farmers.
Stuff of nightmares, far worse than anything Hitler ever did.
The Allied Fire bombing of Dresden and Eisenhower Death camps are also good things to look into when folk want to compare
What would be the problem with Dresden? It was a central transit point for the German Army and a production center for (e.g.) missile guidance control systems. Or do you prefer the fire-bombing of Tokyo?
Good one I was thinking of European theater Tokyo is far better example..... Dresden was the indiscriminate bombing more so the historical architecture destruction i like old buildings.
It was night bombing. There was no such thing as "discriminate" night bombing. Only daylight raids with the Norden bombsight came (not very) close, and the night fire-bombing strategy mostly never came together. Except at Hamburg and Dresden. It is a sad fact of war that military targets are always legitimate. The defending party has a positive obligation to keep his military activity separated from the public. (I can't remember if it is the Hague Convention or the Geneva Convention.) Ever wondered why our ICBM bases are strewn all over the wide open western states where nobody lives?
But the nerves on both sides had gotten too raw. The Germans started the Blitz against England, and tit leads to tat. They later attempted to pursue it further with the V-1 and V-2 weapons. There's a good book on the subject that unwraps the nature of the military targets in Dresden.
I'm not familiar with these death camps?
https://allthatsinteresting.com/rheinwiesenlager
See how long a politician lasts without any produce.
To eat….or have thrown at them?
https://www.realmilk.com/fda-wages-secret-war-on-raw-milk-farmers/
The war in the back ground nobody paid attention to.
No one likes to talk about the 70-million Christians the jewish communists killed in Russia. Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn wrote about in “The Gulag Archipelago.” Just more buried history.
Oh no!
That's what you get for tribalism. One group over another, and if the other group doesn't convert, genocide is easily on the menu.
So whn do we declare war on the WEF? We do have numbers...
I learned about it. Not in school but by my parents who lived through it.