So, I have been a skeptical person most of my life. I suppose it started when my mom used to bring question as to who assassinated JFK. She never felt that it was Oswald and that he was just a patsy.
When I watched the 2nd twin tower fall, I knew it was a planned event. The perfect demolition style demise of all (three!) of those buildings, made that fairly obvious to me.
Ever since 9/11 my eyes have become more open to the realities in our world. I appreciate this GAW group. You are all so helpful to me. I did voat and dabbled in the chans and Kun, but everyone here feels like family. A family that shares their knowledge base and are open to new people finding their way.
Thank you everyone!
With all of that said, as I learn more, it makes me reflect back on historical events and try to find new light on them. One of those events that I keep wondering about is the Tylenol Tampering Scare that happened in Chicago in the early '80's. Remember it? Totally put the American Public in a complete and utter panic about anything and everything. It changed the way the FDA did things and it certainly changed the way over the counter drugs were packaged and distributed, along with food and other consumer based products.
Nobody was ever convicted, the scare eventually went away, but it did change the way consumers got their products forever.
So, I am reaching out to all of you, either as a discussion or a group think. What was that scare all about? Was it truly the work of a serial lunatic out to destroy random lives? Or, possibly was there more to the story and there was an agenda that played into changing the American public and how the FDA allowed items to get to market?
Open dialogue welcome.
Yeah, the Halloween scare has always been baloney. There are a few real incidents that occur between individuals that knew each other, and which may have been (probably) faked as well. But ever since then, they put out warnings every year not to eat anything home-made.
Halloween is evil tho y would they do that to their own holy day
Because they're sacrificing children to Moloch on their holy day.
Thanks for Emerging. Knowing what I know now, it does seem interesting that this is basically "the precursor of the face diaper for every food, drink and medicine". It shifted a lot of power to the FDA.
Looks like they are still after you. I have found it best not to worry or verify your merit based on upvotes. It is more about sharing valuable information without due representation.
I read that it was a guy trying to kill his wife for the insurance money but he tampered with multiple bottles to avoid attention being drawn to himself. Apparently the wife took Tylenol all the time.
Somehow, I have a hard time believing that it was one guy going after one person. This changed the course of the FDA in many, many ways while giving them more power about what could be approved and what got shucked to the sidelines.
THIS.
Do you all remember the Chilean grapes dusted with arsenic? After trying to kill ALL produce imported from Chile, they disclosed eventually, quietly, that the poison was added on the docks in California. I'm sure that one was state, not federal, but it also disappeared from the news quickly. (Source, Chilean relatives impacted by the criminal action and moratorium without relief.)
But tariffs and regulations and government powers always increase.
Wow, I do (sadly, very vaguely) remember this! Again, another example of things that I reflect upon now based on a completely different set of morals and judgement. Seems a bit tooo coincidental to not have some merit of under-handedness.
my new favorite saying is: "maybe I am overthinking things, but it is with damn good reason!"
Yeah, that's the official narrative but who really knows. I mean, how many people died from cyanide laced Tylenol capsules? According to this reference only 7 people died. The perp must be connected to one of those 7 people. Unless of course he never murdered his wife because not enough people died? This is a special kind of evil. Unbelievable.
Agreed. Who can believe anything that we have been told now that we’re awake.
This one to me feels like a new Coke type scenario. Allegedly they made the switch to New Coke just long enough that when everyone demanded they switch back, they wouldn't realize flavor had changed from adding HFCS instead of sugar to what they switched back to.
Idk what would taste different about a pill tho.
High Fructose Corn Syrup makes my blood boil.
I prefer stevia to aspartame, personally.
except most manufactured food products choose High Fructose Corn Syrup,
(check my name)
And yes, which is why my family doesn't buy most manufactured food products.
By the way, anyone else notice how "sugar free" stuff now has HFCS? I figured they're trying to kill unsuspecting diabetics!
It wouldn't be about the taste of the pill. It'd be about the alternatives to that pill, aspirin, naproxen, ibuprofen.
Tylenol has or has always been iirc acetaminophen tho rite?
As far as I know yes. Not a pharmacist or chemist though so I wouldn't know if any changes were made in the material or the processing.
Just spitballing here: The companies which make the components of pill-bottle security, including whatever hardware is needed to install the seals and the annoying plastic wrapping around the caps, suddenly got a zillion-dollar lifetime boost to their business. "Follow the money" points me in their direction.
Yeah, no seals on every product under the sun until after the Tylenol poisoning.
Well, I do feel that this is the best answer to the overall question. More regulation, stricter packaging and more money in the palms of those that they want packaging the materials.
It reminds me of TSA after 9/11. Remember when everyone and their dog had to put liquids, toothpaste and shampoo in ziploc bags?
SC Johnson, which is the privately held company that makes ziplocs, must have made a fortune (!!!!!!!!!!). The first 6 months of TSA, they were handing those bags out at every airport security line like they were candy. Ever since then, consumers that wanted to fly anywhere had to have their liquids in a ziploc bag.
money, money, monnnnnnneeeeeeyyyyyy.
Is there really a baby formula shortage? Or is there something wrong with the baby formula that they can't fess up to so they created a shortage to replace stock.
Perhaps same with Tylenol. Was there something found to be wrong with Tylenol and that rather than fessing up to it they created a scare as an excuse to replace the stock of Tylenol?
Is SIDS really a side effect of vaccines but they've created this fear amongst new parents that it's from baby's sleeping on their stomachs so they don't question the vaccines?
I'm skeptical of everything now.
Seemed to me that I heard something about the manufacturers of baby formula putting ingredients in their products that were not necessarily in the best interest of infants (I.e. they were poisoning them) and that white hats pulled the products off the market. I like to think that maybe this is real in that we are already moving towards a better life for our children and our people, but that is just the solid hope in me that I like to feel that we are all moving in the right direction.
You say Payola..., I say Protection...
Tamata... Tomato...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payola
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protection_racket
https://youtu.be/LOILZ_D3aRg?t=49 (timestamp)
Nice job Chaos. Thanks for the Fred & Ginger show.
A really good question. Let me think on it for awhile. I worked for J&J at one time, years after this happened. They claimed hero/martyr status as a company for immediately taking it off the shelves.
J&J at the time, came out of the whole scene as a complete hero. Immediately pulled Tylenol off of the shelves around the nation. That had to cost the company a lot of money at the time, and they came out of it smelling like roses.
OMG I was just thinking about that myself recently. My thoughts bc it was local is that it was a lone wolf.
It wasn't me, I assure you.
Hey, wait a second…. This name does not necessarily check out. :)
You can try this possible explanation. Go there and ctrl+f Tylenol. https://decodingsymbols.wordpress.com/2022/07/08/the-good-son-weaponized-tragedy/
Tldr: it was a comm, an event to recruit spooks and let them know the trends to pick up on.
Like most comms, it has more than one function, and scaring the public, adding costs to manufacturers, and general paranoia are side benefits. Be warned: the rabbit hole here is deep, and you might want to start with the blogger's intro page to see if you buy the premise of symbol comms incorporated into most every aspect of culture.
Thanks for your input! I will acknowledge the premise and dive in when I can.
It was the launch of PLASTIC. Plastic around everything on store shelves. Billion $ business.
I don’t deny this is a plausible rationale.
Most likely a psy op
Could have been a lone nutter type also idk.
A buddy in college worked at a drug store and claimed to have pissed in a bottle of rubbing alcohol and reshelved it when he quit. Ppl do shitty things
False flag to allow another 3 letter agency more power and control?
Just a funny anecdote. I saw Rodney Dangerfield when this all was going on. Someone from the audience (probably a plant), ran up to the stage and handed him a bottle of extra strength Tylenol. Cue the, "I get no respect, no respect at all!" 🤣
Iirc there was also the rumor that the Unabomber may have done it. Idk just something I heard about his attempts to diffuse responsibility prior to discovering Mail bombs
Sort of not buying this stuff excuse. Seems like an easy out, especially considering they did not know who the unabomber was at the time. EZ out.
Yeah idk. AFAIK he didn't write about it in his diaries either and from talking to his brother Dave he was pretty much honest in his diaries
Right? Exactly. It wasn’t like Ted was as trying to deny anything he was doing g or did. I will give it to him in the fact that he didn’t hold back from stating his reasons or taking account for the things he did.
I could be wrong though, who knows.
Yeah true I don't think he thought he would get caught either. But he was honest about it when he did stuff
Agreed. He probably felt fairly well insulated in his hovel in the hills, none the less, he did not hide from his endeavors when it came time to fess up.