Direct Source: https://tfr.faa.gov/save_pages/detail_2_3045.html
Look at this: They are saying they can and will shoot down unauthorized aircraft over Mar-a-Lago from 10/31/2022 - 05/31/2023
Is this to protect Trump or to take him out?
From the FAA's NOTAM (Notice to Airmen) dated 10/30/2022: Paragraphs mine
Plain Language text is not available for this NOTAM. The traditional NOTAM text is given below:
FDC 2/3045 ZMA PART 1 OF 4 FL..AIRSPACE PALM BEACH, FL..TEMPORARY FLIGHT RESTRICTIONS. OCTOBER 31, 2022-MAY 31 2023 LOCAL.
PURSUANT TO 49 USC 40103(B)(3), THE FEDERAL AVIATION ADMINISTRATION (FAA) CLASSIFIES THE AIRSPACE DEFINED IN THIS NOTAM AS 'NTL DEFENSE AIRSPACE'.
PILOTS WHO DO NOT ADHERE TO THE FOLLOWING PROC MAY BE INTERCEPTED, DETAINED AND INTERVIEWED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT/SECURITY PERSONNEL.
ANY OF THE FOLLOWING ADDITIONAL ACTIONS MAY ALSO BE TAKEN AGAINST A PILOT WHO DOES NOT COMPLY WITH THE RQMNTS OR ANY SPECIAL INSTRUCTIONS OR PROC ANNOUNCED IN THIS NOTAM:
A) THE FAA MAY TAKE ADMINISTRATIVE ACTION, INCLUDING IMPOSING CIVIL PENALTIES AND THE SUSPENSION OR REVOCATION OF AIRMEN CERTIFICATES; OR
B) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY PURSUE CRIMINAL CHARGES, INCLUDING CHARGES UNDER 49 USC SECTION 46307; OR
C) THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE ACFT, IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT THE ACFT POSES AN IMMINENT SECURITY THREAT. PURSUANT TO 14 CFR 99.7, SPECIAL SECURITY INSTRUCTIONS (SSI), ALL 2210311000-2305310959
END PART 1 OF 4
FDC 2/3045 ZMA PART 2 OF 4
I'm pretty sure this part is talking about drones (UAS = Unmanned Aircraft System)
FL..AIRSPACE PALM BEACH, FL..TEMPORARY FLIGHT UNMANNED ACFT SYSTEM (UAS) FLT OPS ARE PROHIBITED: WI AN AREA DEFINED AS 1NM RADIUS OF 264037N0800216W (PBI097002.6) SFC-1000FT AGL EFFECTIVE 2210311000 UTC UNTIL 2305310959 UTC. EXC AS SPECIFIED BLW:
A. UAS OPS MAY BE AUTH WI THE DEFINED SSI AIRSPACE IF IN COMPLIANCE WITH THE RQMNTS LISTED BLW:
UAS OPS IN DCT SUPPORT OF AN ACT NTL DEFENSE, HOMELAND SECURITY, LAW ENFORCEMENT, FIREFIGHTING, SAR, OR DISASTER RESPONSE MISSION;
UAS OPS IN SUPPORT OF EVENT OPS;
COMMERCIAL UAS OPS WITH A VALID STATEMENT OF WORK;
MUST BE IN POSSESSION OF AN APPROVED SPECIAL GOVERNMENTAL INTEREST (SGI) AIRSPACE WAIVER;
AND COMPLY WITH ALL OTHER APPLICABLE FEDERAL AVIATION REGULATIONS.
B. UAS OPR IDENTIFIED IN A.1, A.2 OR A.3 ABV MUST APPLY FOR A SGI WAIVER VIA EMAIL AT 2210311000-2305310959
END PART 2 OF 4 FDC 2/3045 ZMA
Talking about what the actions and penalties are:
PART 3 OF 4 FL.
AIRSPACE PALM BEACH, FL..TEMPORARY FLIGHT [email protected].
C. UAS OPR WHO DO NOT COMPLY WITH APPLICABLE AIRSPACE RESTRICTIONS ARE WARNED THAT PURSUANT TO 10 U.S.C.SECTION 130I AND 6 U.S.C.SECTION 124N, THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE (DOD), THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY (DHS) OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE (DOJ) MAY TAKE SECURITY ACTION THAT RESULTS IN THE INTERFERENCE, DISRUPTION, SEIZURE, DAMAGING, OR DESTRUCTION OF UNMANNED ACFT DEEMED TO POSE A CREDIBLE SAFETY OR SECURITY THREAT TO PROTECTED PERSONNEL, FAC, OR ASSETS.
D. THE SYSTEM OPS SUPPORT CENTER (SOSC), IS THE CDN FAC FOR OPR ACCESS AND IS AVBL DLY FM 0600-2359 EASTERN, TEL 202-267-8276 FOR CDN.
E. THE FAA RECOMMENDS THAT ALL ACFT OPR CK NOTAMS FREQUENTLY FOR POSSIBLE CHANGES TO THIS TFR PRIOR TO OPS WI THIS REGION.OPR MAY REVIEW THE TFR DETAILS ON THE INTERNET AT HTTPS://TFR.FAA.GOV/ OR HTTPS://WWW.1800WXBRIEF.COM.
IF QUESTIONS REMAIN, 2210311000-2305310959
END PART 3 OF 4 FDC 2/3045 ZMA
PART 4 OF 4 FL..AIRSPACE PALM BEACH, FL..TEMPORARY FLIGHT CTC FSS, TEL 800-992-7433. 2210311000-2305310959
END PART 4 OF 4
So going home by 5/31 ? My first attempt at date fagging
KEK
UUUHHMMMM, the FAA can't shoot down shit.
You have been fucking played.....
This is BS.
did you read the post? it says the us government can shoot shit down not the FAA as an org
If that's sarcasm it's fucking good haha
If I’m reading this right, this is a 1 nautical mile TFR. There’s no picture. Is this centered on Mar-A-lago?
If so, anything they say other than it’s for Trump is a lie. You cannot test a missile, a rocket, a drone, a plane, anything, within 1 nautical mile. You need hundreds of square miles. Think about it. What good is a fucking mile for anything flying? How long does it take a jet to go a mile? A missile? Even a drone? It’s a useless distance for testing anything that would be in the air.
This is fishy. It’s gotta be directly related to Trump somehow. It’s only a mile.
It's drone related Probably by request.
Good point
If Mar-a-Lago is the winter White House….maybe Trump runs the show from there while DC gets broomed?
Is this another 6 month extension of policy, or is it new?
I believe its new.
I believe TFR's are there but they're filed differently, as in, only in effect when Trump is present at Mar-A-Lago. But I could be misremembering.
I remember it being something like that too iirc
Thinking for yourself IS racism. Shame on us.
I remember Monkeywerx saying that. Hmmm.
That is true but there is one there now. But it is not a VIP.
Thanks!
If it's just a normal extension of a normal thing, I'll take the post down. But I thought Mar-a-Lago didn't have flight restrictions over it.
(y'all let me know)
I recall MonkeyWerx saying there wasn't one. This was a few months ago.
President Trump was staying in Bedminster for the summer. Not sure if they had a TFR there at that time. Maybe he's moving back to Mar-a-lago for the winter.
From what I remember, Monkey Werks said there has been NO TFR over MAL since Trump left the WH. He's not sure why that was.
It’s a normal thing for past presidents
https://nbaa.org/wp-content/uploads/aircraft-operations/airspace/20191120-FAA-Mar-A-Lago-POTUS-TFR-Briefing.pdf
pg7 in particular
I don't know protocol for "former" presidents. I recall Bush and Obama having one I think. Can't sauce right now.
JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS (WHY THE CAPS):
THE ONLY planes that can shoot down ANOTHER PLANE (LEGALLY) is the US Navy and US Air Force...There are Air Force Squadrons Throughout the state of Florida ALONG with NAVY!!!
NOTE: They could also be flying cover over MAL!!! Just a thought!!!
All branches have aircraft, just not fixed-wing aircraft. Technically an Army helicopter could take action if for example a drone was circling over MAL. Maybe for a slow crop-duster, but it is most likely going to be a fighter aircraft that is called to take care of the threat. And in this case, probably an Air Force plane. Maybe Navy from Jacksonville, especially if they are already up but they would have to be properly armed, so they would probably still call the Air Force.
Interesting. If this is new. Anyone with intel please tag me. I want to look back at this in a few.
The faa have missiles?!?!
yes, I should have said the U.S. Gov could do this, not precisely the FAA. From the NOTAM:
THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT MAY USE DEADLY FORCE AGAINST THE AIRBORNE ACFT
They may be able to request fighter jets be scrambled?
Here's a theory that some of you might like. What if Trump is announcing his 2024 run right after the midterms, and will be at MAL for the winter? He would be running his campaign activities out of MAL while it's cold up north in NJ.
Why end it in May? What if he really is taking DeSantis as his running mate? Maybe he will announce Ron in the spring, and then move to NJ and live there until the Presidential election. That would eliminate any issues with having 2 people from the same state on the same ticket.
Bush/Cheney had that problem, and 4 days before Bush announced Cheney as his running mate Cheney changed his residence from Texas back to Wyoming (he was previously a Rep in WY).
https://www.jetex.com/us-temporary-flight-restrictions-tfr/ what does TFR mean explained ..
Maybe Intel concerned Iran targeting Trump after Solemoni(sp?) death? Just a thought?
This would be my guess too.
Lots of helicopters and planes not usually seen here in Deltona FL right now.
That may be training on the Pine Castle bombing range in JAX. Especially since it is the new fiscal year so the Navy has money again to blow stuff up. I lived near Daytona for a while and saw planes there during training runs.
Ah, okay. I lived near Patrick AFB (Melbourne Beach) for a few years so was used to it then. Last few days around here though, lots of extra plane activity. Yesterday (excuse my wording because I’m not certain what the correct term is) but a grouping of 4 planes flew right over my house, one in the front, one in the back and one on each side. Several helicopters last few days. My BF and I both heard something extremely loud, some kind of aircraft the other day. It wasn’t a rocket launch. We can see those from the driveway.
Unrelated but NOTAMs are now Notice to Air Missions per the woke FAA
Come on man...
FAFO! FAFO! FAFO! FAFO! FAFO! FAFO!
MAL is under the approach to Miami International... Was a few thousand feet over it recently in a 787.
FF warning?
Not if it’s new.
Yeah, why have a date on it if it's standard procedure? This looks interesting.
I have asked around and my unofficial sources say no, Mar-a-Lago does not normally have flight restrictions over it - not since Trump "left office". I know that's not much to go on but they are people accustomed to NOTAMs.
There is a TFR over Him.
Apparently there are some missile tests occurring then. Read it on a solid telegram channel but can't find the link. Could obviously be an excuse/lie put out there by someone, but that's the official story
What kind of missile? That story doesn’t make sense to me. There already is a space exploration TFR over the Space coast and off Patrick all the way up to Cape Canaveral. If it was a land based rocket, it would fall under that.
There are submarine ballistic missile shakedown shots every so often run out of Port Canaveral, but they go way the fuck out there for that. It’s not in anyone’s best interest to have the entire east coast of Florida see a ballistic missile flying out of the ocean. It’s the kind of thing we like to keep as low key as possible.
So that leaves surface navy testing SAM missiles or some shit off of a ship. I just can’t believe they would do that close enough to West Palm to warrant a TFR over Maralago.
If someone had a plausible explanation for who and what they are testing I may bite, but it doesn’t pass the smell test at first glance.
It’s just too much of a coincidence. This is a marker of something changing. Prior and current Presidents get TFRs over their home. Trump never had one. Now he is going to. So what’s changing? Shits about to go down is what’s changing.
I agree!
Oh I completely agree. I'm sure it's nothing but a cover story, which won't pass muster with anyone who has a clue. I saw people speculating it was a space launch thing but did not see any specifics for what kind of missiles they were purporting to launch
I hear it's one of those slow missiles that takes 7 months to travel out of a 1 mile radius.
It's the slow, quiet ones you have to watch out for
https://www.patreon.com/posts/trump-tfr-74119215?utm_medium=post_notification_email&utm_source=post_link&utm_campaign=patron_engagement
I read this as, they can only shoot down the aircraft if they are unmanned.
Since when does the FAA shoot anything?? Fake news.