Bioclandestine with a great take.. If we allow 2022 to end the way 2020 did, Trump will lose most of his supporters.
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“We are in perfect position. The normies have been witnessing this madness on the world stage. Anyone who is slightly objective can see what is happening. The public are primed for red pills.
However, being in position only matters if we actually see the corrective action to accompany the blatant election fraud.
If 2022 is allowed to carry on like this, the Trump base are going to jump ship, and how could we blame them?
It’s put-up or shut-up time for White Hats. Show us the goods. It’s time.”
-Clandestine
There is no question of "what's the point". That is, unless you have completely surrendered to the on-going tyranny.
Your following question alludes to your surrender.
"Exactly what would be different in 2024?"
There will be a tomorrow. The sun will rise with or without you. This means the fight will go on. I will not beckon on my knees, but will stand and fight, fight, fight until my last breath.
What specific promises did Trump make that you are referring to? Trump exposed the shit show to everyone. Now, you're blaming Trump?
I'm endeavoring to explain how a lot of people will feel, which I have already seen comments to support.
I don't know what will happen between now and 2024 to make a difference, but if nothing does then why would anyone expect a different result?
Trump made a promise..'you will be happy' - I'm just one person, but I'm not exactly seeing a lot of happy people about the current situation.
It would be nice to see something tangible happen that would provide a good indicator that something will be different and that the cheating can be stopped.
Why is that too much to ask?
I agree. You'll be happy, very happy, very soon. If nothing is done between now and January 21st, this is all a ploy dragging us along like sheep. I hope I am wrong, but you can only slow walk things with these promises for so long. It's different because it's not a physically driven war with guns and enemies to kill. It's psychological and there is a breaking point even for the mentally tough.
I'm pissed because after they let Biden be inaugurated and nothing changed between the previous election and this one I told myself that I wouldn't be participating in midterms unless I saw some concrete results with the fraud. Well here comes 2022 and nothing changed but I chose to vote anyway to give things one last chance especially because everyone and their mother was shouting to get out and vote, this was the most important election, etc.
And now here I am feeling foolish for participating in blatantly fraudulent elections, again, with nothing to show for it. If Trump doesn't announce something absolutely game-changing tomorrow I'm mentally checking out. I'll still support MAGA and hope something changes in my heart but I'm not going to stay invested in this based on pure copium forever.
I agree with this doom he is right and I am there too. 2 years of hold the smegging line for nothing but more fraud and not a soul doing anything about it.
You're right. I feel exactly the same way.
Same here...
Same here, exactly. I won't participate in a fraudulent election ever again. It only legitimizes it.
It's an actor. Biden didn't get inaugurated! You've lost the plot! Wtf!
I really do hope so.
I'm fairly tough mentally, but it's natural to feel a bit tired out after a beating.
There are a lot of things lining up for January, and Q did say that this wasn't another typical 4 year election cycle ("This is not another 4 year election….")
So, I'm gonna be like a reed and bend with the wind and see what things look like when the wind dies down.
Well Q has until January 21st to put up or shut up. Signed tired patriots.
Its more than mere psychology, we wrestle with supernatural beings that are panicked and desperate, they don't care if they destroy the world if it means we will lose.
Their powers are waning as each hour passes due to Jesus Christ being accepted by more and more people everywhere on Earth, the death eaters know he won 2000 years ago and can never be defeated.
Never mind breaking out the 7.62mm, break out the prayer book pedes!
I don't think I'll ever understand this narrative.
It's always selfish to assume God will help us specifically and directly, first of all.
But second of all, the Bible has a lot of violence within it.
God gave us freedom and the will to fight.
Why do people insist "God wins" doesn't include our direct participation?
I have no breaking point. It is impossible to demoralize me.
Tenses matter
'you will be happy' = future
'current situation' = present
Let's let the future to which Trump alludes become the present, then see how happy we are
Nice.
A future that has no timeline, that seems to have been extended for two years so far already.
"I'm endeavoring to explain how a lot of people will feel,...."
"Feeling" is emotion that is a fleeting experience. It's there one moment and gone the next. Emotion is never cognitive. Albeit, our cognition is there to control it. It knows no morals and if left unchecked can lead to very bad things.
One does not explain emotion. It is temporary in passing. It is the cognitive thinking and the non sequitur of irrational thinking that causes people to scratch their heads for understanding. When emotion leads cognitive thought, especially when it is irrational, then some very bad things can occur.
Did Trump make a "promise" of an emotion (ergo, happy)? And precisely what was he referring to? On another thought, terror is also an emotion of fear. Is it possible to have a war on "fear' (ergo, 'war on terrorism)? Do you see how the words are played? I don't think Trump promised anything except we would become aware of the widespread corruption.
"I don't know what will happen between now and 2024 to make a difference,..."
And like the rest of us, you also didn't know what would happen prior to 2016 and any other time. None of us will know what will happen tomorrow, next week, or in the following years. It's better that you are happy to have made it through the day and that you have a clean bed for the 'promise' and expectation of a new day. Be thankful when you wake up in the morning to fight another day.
Boom. Fantastic post. I am just focusing on my marriage and family and am feeling happy and grateful for how blessed my life actually is. If things in the world continue going south, I’m gonna continue counting my blessings. What else can I do?
Exactly right. Our ancestors survived it, so can we. Focus on your life in each day. Our time will come. We'll know what to do and when to act.
I think you're missing the point. It's not that people will surrender to tyranny, it's that people will start looking for alternative ways to fight against the tyranny. At some point the rational conclusion becomes that voting is pointless. Because, well, it is. Assuming that Q+ doesn't actually intervene with the military to fix this mess that is.
Right now the whole strategy of sitting back and posting memes & voting every 2 years in the hope that, this time, the election will surely not be rigged against us is not, in fact, delivering the goods. People will still "support" Trump of course but they're going to stop taking politics seriously because it's a fruitless endeavor. Which is our best bet at this point IMO.
People need to start building parallel systems from the ground up and stop worrying about who gets into office. We need an organic grassroots movement where people start rebuilding relationships with their neighbors and start developing + sharing skills so that we can be self-sufficient to the point where we don't need the government at all.
This is a good idea - but it does not solve the problem of tyrannical government... which would not leave you alone. They demand control and obedience.
This is where the 2nd Amendment comes into play... do you understand?
I've posted on 5 Stages of an unfolding tyranny earlier, but it's worth mentioning it again. But first, I agree with you in regards to building parallel systems. This tactic was successfully used in the Soviet era. And you are somewhat right about the limitations of posting memes. GAW itself has limitations, but it is finding new audiences too. All of these are effective, but more needs to be done.
IMV an unfolding tyranny is something that no one consciously surrenders to it. Each new day the creeping effect captures and ensnares everyone because not enough was done to stop it. It is incredibly important to recognize the stages so that no one gets tricked into an ever deepening tyranny.
There are 5 stages of a Tyranny and its psychological effects on the general public. I'll mention the first 3 stages because this is what we are dealing with right now. In an unfolding tyranny the population always finds itself initially in a state of Disbelief. As the tyranny unfolds, Anger is the next reaction the public experiences. As it quickly grows, this is the point to which the regime is most vulnerable and it needs to act to quell the growing anger. This is also the point to which the population has the best chance of overthrowing the regime and thereby ending it. The preferred method of the regime is to trick the populace in believing things have changed and the tyranny is coming to an end. This is favored over using force because doing so may ignite and only fan the flames of anger and protest/rebellion. It is the Bargain/Offer stage most prevelently used by the tyrannical regime. It is older than time immemorial itself and has been used again and again throughout history. The Bargain/offer is made between the public and the ruling regime. Sometimes a deal is made with the betrayal of an opposing leader or/and others. I'll talk about this some more later. The 4th Stage is Depression. This is when people have lost hope and start thinking irrationally. A very good example is taking the Clot shot when it is understood and kill. Yet, the individual chooses to do it anyway to save their job. It's amounts to Russian Roulette. MAGA is increasingly experiencing this stage. The last Stage is Acceptance. It's a pitiful state of accepting the tyranny imposed. This can also be exemplified by the masses accepting SADS, vax☠xine passports, and massive deaths as now being normaL.
The Bargain/Offer is perceived as 'change for the better'. It is the regime's preferred method for accomplishing this. Look at NY Governor Andrew Cuomo and how he was decapitated. At first he was venerated, then he became over-exposed and tarnished by scandal. The MSM then suddenly turned on him. The regime promised him an easy out if he agreed to fall on his sword. His resignation came with dismissal of all charges. Who replaced him? Another tyrant in Kathy Hochul. She is even more hated than Cuomo was. Look at the UK, they did the same thing with Boris Johnson as they did with Cuomo. Who replaced Johnson? Johnson's hand picked Liz Trust. In Australia the same thing happened. I believe Liz Trust is a place holder for someone else, who will not only follow the democidal policies of Johnson, but will be far more ruthless in doing so.
Im at Anger phase. Let's go
^^This^^
"You're gonna be very happy soon"
"The best is yet to come"
There's 2 promises. I'm sure there's more.
We all say things like this. Football coaches say similar things at half time. It's a matter of being positive. My glass is half full. I say the Beginning is near. I believe this to be true. These are not promises.
I appreciate the optimism. We’ll have to agree to disagree here. I supported Trump in 2016. I supported him in 2020. And I still support him just to be clear. Will I vote again in 2024? Not a chance at this point. But things can change. Let’s see how it plays out.
It is not about surrender. It is about stopping the slaughter and changing tactics. If there is no chance of fighting this war at the ballot box, why expend the resources and energy to do so? If Trump and company cannot do anything to fix this, then he doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell of getting back into the WH. So, what would we be accomplishing pursuing a fool's errand? If there is no correction for this election fraud issue and those responsible for it being held accountable, we know we have to reassess where we stand in preparation for the crap storm headed our way. The battlefield will have changed and we may have to fight a more gorilla tactic driven war than trying to meet head to head on the battlefield. The definition of insanity is...
FBI doomers trying to bring everyone down so we lose hope. I almost let them get to me. I have faith in God and God alone through Christ who strengthens me. Trump is God’s chosen “For such a time as this”