When it comes to the end-times sequence of events… we are in that split-second-moment where the walls of a drag racer’s tires ripple because the sheer power of the engine is too much too fast. Any moment now the rubber’s going to grip the road and we’ll be at ludicrous speed.
REPENT, PRAY, LOVE YOUR FAMILIES and point others toward Jesus Christ. God Bless.
"Above all, love each other deeply, because love covers over a multitude of sins." 1 Peter 4:8
"The great day of the Lord is near— near and coming quickly. The cry on the day of the Lord is bitter; the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry." Zephaniah 1:14
"Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen. " Revelation 1:7
Amen. Can't wait!
"No one knows the day or the hour only the Father"
"The great day of the Lord is near— near and coming quickly. The cry on the day of the Lord is bitter; the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry."
Zephaniah 1:14
"Surely the Lord GOD will do nothing, but he revealeth his secret unto his servants the prophets."
Amos 3:7
When the time is ripe, God reveals his secrets to his prophets.
1 Thessalonians 4:16-17 KJV
16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
What a day that will be...
REPENT, PRAY, LOVE YOUR FAMILIES and point others toward Jesus Christ. God Bless...Amen
1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Titus 2:13 Looking for that blessed hope, and the glorious appearing of the great God and our Saviour Jesus Christ;
https://youtu.be/nboxWhqQd-8 #1 video on Pre-Tribulation Rapture.
Also check out the documentary Before the Wrath.
Thanks for the viewing suggestions. Watching "Before the Wrath" now.
So glad when I lurk comments to come across these good finds! Thanks folks
Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight... Hebrews 12:1
clouds ≠ literal clouds
“I came to send fire on the earth, and how I wish it were already kindled! Luke 12:49
fire ≠ literal fire
....who also said, “Men of Galilee, why do you stand gazing up into heaven? This same Jesus, who was taken up from you into heaven, will so come in like manner as you saw Him go into heaven.” Acts 1:11
How did Christ enter "heaven"? By perfecting himself. Heaven is not a material place in the sky, or above the atmosphere, or in outer space. It is the spiritual realm where the Father resides, where there is spiritual perfection. How did Christ perfect himself (enter into heaven)?
in bringing many sons to glory, to make the captain of their salvation perfect through sufferings. Hebrews 2:10
Jesus was "taken up into heaven" because he perfected himself. When the disciples saw him ascend, they were observing, through their spiritual eyes, Jesus rise to the highest spiritual realms. It was a vision, not a literal material phenomenon.
(When Christ was victorious, he achieved the capacity to manifest in the material world as easily as he could manifest in the spiritual world. This is the meaning of the curtain in the temple between the holy place (the body) and the holy of holies (the spirit) being torn. Jesus rose above and became transcendent over the barrier between spirit and flesh.)
This is why the Angel asks, and admonishes the men of Galilee. Translation: "Don't you yet understand that Christ rose into heaven in the spiritual realms? ANd that his return will not be from the sky, but rather, through manifesting in human form just like he used to perfect himself?"
I have yet many things to say unto you, but ye cannot bear them now. John 16:12
The people of Jesus time, 2000 years ago, could NOT grasp the truth on the level Jesus was, so Jesus was forced to teach them through parables and symbols. Likewise, the scriptures written 2000 years ago use symbology, metaphor. Until science developed to the level it has in the 20th century, people could not grasp anything but a LITERAL interpretation of the symbols of the scripture.
(Example: Because people did NOT understand the nature and structure of the material world, they thought that Heaven was somewhere in the sky, and hell somewhere under ground.)
Still today, many simply maintain that level of understanding, thinking in literal terms. But the evidence is there, if one looks. People kind of get it, but it takes a spiritual power to break through the illogicality of thinking: sky = literal sky, clouds = literal clouds, and all the symbols describing Christ's return are literal, instead of symbolic descriptions which was the only form the people of the last 2000 years could grasp. Hence, we should pray and ask God to show us: What do we need to understand?
"Why are you gazing up into heaven"?
The conclusion is the same: to bend our hearts towards Jesus and yearn for his return, but we should also free ourselves of ignorance and realize that in the fullness of time, God reveals his secrets .... if our hearts are open.
Think about it. How could Christ return like a thief in the night? A thief in the night enters your house, does his work, and then departs, and you ONLY realize it AFTER he has come and gone.
Starting with the 20th Century, mass media means that when Christ manifests in the world in a way people do not expect, they would very easily see him (every eye shall see him) but also could very easily not recognize him - if they were looking for the wrong thing.
It's worth praying and thinking about.
Amen
So with the whole context included, it paints the picture that Jesus did just literally go up and past a literal cloud that hid Jesus from their literal sight, and as He was going "up into heaven", two men dressed in white stood beside them and said what they said. It was an actual event. Jesus entered heaven physically by going up in a way that they could see Him going. It says it right there.
6 Then they gathered around him and asked him, “Lord, are you at this time going to restore the kingdom to Israel?”
7 He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times or dates the Father has set by his own authority. 8 But you will receive power when the Holy Spirit comes on you; and you will be my witnesses in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the ends of the earth.”
After he said this, he was taken up before their very eyes, and a cloud hid him from their sight.
10 They were looking intently up into the sky as he was going, when suddenly two men dressed in white stood beside them. 11 “Men of Galilee,” they said, “why do you stand here looking into the sky? This same Jesus, who has been taken from you into heaven, will come back in the same way you have seen him go into heaven.”
It says it. That's not the problem. The problem is your literal interpretation.
Imagine if you interpreted everything said to you as literal.
Question: Do you really think that Jesus was a pyromaniac, who wanted to set everything around him literally on fire? Surely not. So, in that case, does "fire" mean literal fire? I mean, it says so, right? Or is it s symbolic expression?
The description in Acts is a description of what was observed and experienced. It was described in the way they observed it. If you have never had a vision, perhaps you cannot understand it, but visions are real, and they are spiritual manifestations.
I understand that it can be hard to reconcile understanding every aspect of the scripture in a literal way with empirical truth, but doing that takes GREATER faith and understanding. Paul tells us that "we will know fully in the future". That time is now, when we must rise above superstitious faith and reconcile the truth of the scripture with the truth of the material world that was NOT available at the time of Paul. Doing so resolves many of the innumerable contradictions that the atheists constantly harp on to attack the faith of the faithful.
So, what would be the difference between having a vision (seeing with their spiritual senses) of Jesus rising up and then being hidden by a cloud, and observing a literally material phenomenon? None, from the experience of the observer.
But consider: do you really believe that Heaven is somewhere above the clouds? Which layer of the atmosphere is it, then? Do higher flying jet aircraft pass through heaven when they travel from one side of the planet to another? Do space shuttles pass through Heaven on their way to outer space, or the the moon? Did Voyager pass through Heaven on its way to the outer reaches of the solar system?
No, "Heaven" is a spiritual realm, not a material realm. However, when we live in Heaven in the spirit while alive on Earth, then the Kingdom of God will manifest: "Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on Earth as it is in Heaven."
The problem with not understanding this point occurs because some people read the scripture and interpret everything as literal, when it isn't. Visions are not literal.
"In the last days, God says, I will pour out My Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions..."
Seeing visions is one of the ways the Holy Spirit manifests, and has been used since the start as a means of communicating important information from the Father to people. A vision is experienced when one's spiritual senses are opened by the power of the Spirit. After the resurrection, the disciples and many people constantly experienced and outpouring of the spirit and had many, many visions.
They recorded these, as they experienced them, but without understanding the nature of the the spiritual sense, they are liable to be misunderstood.
The reason people historically have done this is (without putting too fine a point on it) due to ignorance of the relationship between the material world and the spiritual world, and how each of them functions.
I'm not denying the event. I'm saying they experience a spiritual vision.
Are there clear examples of what was written as a description being taken literally, that later proved NOT to be the case? There is a rock solid example of that in the scripture.
Read about how Elijah the prophet "ascended into Heaven" (as observed by Elisha) in Kings. Then, find in the gospel where and how Elijah the prophet returns. Reconcile.
A blessing on your day.
The story of the men watching Jesus physically ascend is not half literal and half allegory. Either the whole thing is allegory or it was all a real event. You do understand that at least?
Er, careful. Your prejudice is showing!
No, I agree that it is not half literal and half allegory. It's an important point, and thank you for making it.
Some of the content in scripture IS allegory, some is Symbolic and metaphor.
The tricky thing is that spiritual realities are OFTEN expressed - and experienced - through symbols and metaphor.
I believe the event itself was a real event, but what was observed was a spiritual realization, not a material event.
As such, it is not allegorical. In my view, the men actually stood there, they had a spiritual vision that they accepted and perhaps even perceived as a material event, and which then the author recorded without any distinction between spiritual and material phenomena.
It's not allegorical in the sense that its a parable. However, Jesus rising up into the sky is how the spiritual reality of his ascension to the highest realm together with the Father manifested and appeared to the observers, who were observing with their spiritual eyes, as in a vision, not viewing a material reality.
I hope that clarifies the point.
Just another point: You wrote: "men watching Jesus physically ascend".
Do you recognize that this is YOUR interpretation and (in fact) your own insertion, based on your interpretation and understanding? That's important to recognize, in my view. It does not serve God well for us to assert our own interpretation and understanding as if it is fact. It's important to recognize that any time we engage with scripture, we are dealing with ONE what scripture itself says, and TWO, what we THINK scripture means.
It does not say in scripture that he physically ascended. It lays out a description of what the men saw and reported, but does NOT overtly state this was a physical phenomenon. They saw Jesus form rising, but was this a vision? Or did Jesus actually float up behind clouds? If so, then where did he go after that?
Many reading this throughout history have simply assumed it must be a material phenomenon because they did not understand the relationship between spirit and flesh. A clearer understanding of the relationship between spirit and flesh is, in my opinion, part of what Paul was referring to when he wrote:
We constantly live in both realms, but due to the effects of sin, our spiritual senses are greatly, greatly diminished, almost to the point where most people do not even know that they have spiritual senses. When we die, our spirit is separated from our flesh, and our flesh decays, its job having been done. our spirit is eternal, and lives on in the spirit world eternally. But whether we live in eternal hell, or eternal heaven, this depends on our relationship with God and Christ.
Another point here: If you read Acts, it talks about how MANY saints were 'raised from the tombs' after the resurrection of Jesus. But if so, then where are they now? How long did they last?
The much more logical and consistent explanation is that following Jesus resurrection and the advent of the holy spirit, the spiritual sense of many believers and people in jerusalem were temporarily open and they observed the spirits of the saints who had previous passed to the spirit world. 'Rising from the tombs' is a metaphor that explains that because of Jesus resurrection, the spirit of these saints of the old Testament were resurrection to a new level, aka paradise, whereas the spiritual realm of even good people who died prior to the coming of Jesus is linked to a 'tomb' - spiritual dark and dank.
"You do understand that at least?" Yeah, sorry about that. I was being an ass, and it was unnecessary. I should have simply said, "Can we agree on that point?" I interpret the story as literal, and that's okay. You interpret it as a possible vision being described. That is also okay. The details of this and most other things argued over are unimportant. The gospel is simple or else simpletons like me would be in trouble eh? I thank God for that.
Hahahahha.
Thanks for the reply, Otherwise.
Yes, We can agree on that point. At the end of the day, for me, it's all about heart connection and relationship with Christ. All else flows from that.
I enjoyed this discussion, although I'm the one who went on and on and on... (bleh!).
Thank you for a courteous and generous response. A blessing on all us simpletons! Praise God.
(*PS. If you feel the urge, please DO check out about Elijah. While I agree that the gospel is simple, there are amazing hidden gems to be found when you dig. This one is gold platinum.)
Ps. Did you bother to look up about how Elijah ascended and how he returned? It's really very important, although traditional theology (seeing in a mirror dimly) has failed to even look at this point, even though it is there in plain sight.
Ascension.
"Multiple meanings exist."
AKA: Rapture.
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I'm curious to see how it pans out. I think we are farther than people think. I've never taken any of Q to mean the world was ending and given what the Bible says about coming "like a thief in the night" etc... I don't think Q would be part of it.
I think we are looking at more of a Renaissance reset or possibly an era of piece before the final war which will be a culmination of evil governments, AI/Smart grid tech, etc...if history is even remotely accurate we have seen far darker times as a species and it is not the first time people thought it was near the end.
I think that the people behind Q had no idea how deep and wide the corruption was and as a result - the plan has been vacated and GOD is now in control
I actually have a lot of feelings you are correct however not publicly admitting the plan failed or calling to action patriots when you knew times were dire would be stupid at best and complicit psyop at worst. Unfortunately Trump and many of the other personalities allegedly involved in Q are also alpha types who literally never apologize for anything so I could actually see them never admitting they were wrong.
Wrong on many levels. They knew what they where facing. Pure evil. That's why Q let us in on it. It was also to lead the enemy astray so they could gain the upper hand. They knew exactly how bad it was. Remember, the alternative was bloodshed in a military intervention. They decided to go the harder but better route. Beat them at their own game. It's working. Yet God is still in control. He does not want bloodshed.
100% this. No one knows the time so live like you will not see his coming but be prepared if he comes like a thief in the night. I pray we get to see a true Great Awakening in both the natural and in the spiritual world. A revival like this earth has never be seen would be glorious beyond words!!!
Just a response based on my previous posts...I truly believe the end is near for one HUGE reason.
I believe that the "military" truly had a plan to redeem the world from the satanic evil around the world. I also believe the plan was as perfect as it could be at the time.
And then I also believe that as they initiated the plan, they discovered how wide and deep and inclusive it actually was...beyond anything they had anticipated.
Consequently, I believe, GOD had to take over the "plan" and in order for HIM to fix the global evil around the planet, HE decided it was time to implement another "Noah" event. HE did say, HE would not end our world with another flood, so who knows what HE has in mind for us...but I do believe that the end times have been moved up due to the extreme satanic infiltration that has happened worldwide.
Are you prepared? I know I and my family are ready for the end times.
What is awesome about how we all feel is the fact that we no longer feel anger, hate, depression, loss of hope. We feel comforted by the fact that we all are with GOD and JESUS and know that the love of THEM is with us at every minute of every day.
GOD BLESS YOU ALL!
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The #1 video on Pre-Tribulation Rapture Dr Gene Kim. https://youtu.be/nboxWhqQd-8. Great video!
Also if your looking for a good documentary check out Before the Wrath.
Enjoy and God bless!!!
I love Dr. Kim's sermons/lectures. I love that he uses a whiteboard. I wish my Sunday school (or regular church) had been as fascinating as he makes it.
Thank you for sharing this with me. Will definitely watch.
Now you're datefagging the Lord's return. I wouldn't presume.
I didn't give a date though, I said it was imminent. meaning any time. NO ONE knows the true return date of the Lord, but the day of the lord is and always has been near. The message I was trying to portray is to be prepared.
"The great day of the Lord is near— near and coming quickly. The cry on the day of the Lord is bitter; the Mighty Warrior shouts his battle cry." Zephaniah 1:14
People I’m sure thought this too during the Black Plague, during WW2, or the civil war.
It can be whenever and some people had it way tougher in the past.
So ready!
What is needed by many is to realize this....The Return has always been imminent. Nothing written must take place before the Return.
And we will not know in advance. Saith Jesus:---
Matthew 24:36 "But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only."
Matthew 24:42 "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come."
Either you believe Jesus, or you don't.
I am so excites for this. Glad I am not the only one who senses it.
We will not see the end, the antichrist didn’t even falsely declare himself God yet and when he does, many many years will pass and with a lot of conquest and bloodshed by him.
This generation will not see the end, this is the time for the awakening and Gods harvest. Maybe a generation or two later, is when the Christ will return for the second time.
We are the clouds, Jesus comes in a people and is seen in a people, the Body of Christ.
"It is when we come to the return of the Lord that we notice a distinct difference! For suddenly the one single cloud disappears and we are introduced to a great plurality of clouds! Let us see! Christ departed this earth in one cloud. He comes again in many clouds! “Behold, He cometh with clouds: and every eye shall see Him” (Rev. 1:7). Daniel in vision beheld Him thus: “I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like a Son of man came with the clouds of heaven…and there was given unto Him dominion” (Dan. 7:13-14). Jesus Himself said, “And they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory” (Mat. 24:30). And again, “Hereafter ye shall see the Son of man sitting at the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven” (Mat. 26:64). Finally, the apostle Paul relates this dramatic experience: “Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds…and so shall we ever be with the Lord” (I Thes. 4:17). In the CLOUDS! More than one cloud. Many clouds. A great company of clouds!"
Much more in the link:
https://www.kingdombiblestudies.org/Revelation/rev13.htm
"Why are there many clouds attending Christ’s coming, and what are these clouds? Let us not for one moment forget that we are dealing with the cloud of God’s glory, presence, and power – the shekinah! When the firstborn Son of God was in the world John said of Him, “We beheld His glory” (Jn. 1:14). When did they behold His glory? You may reply that they beheld His glory when He went about doing good, healing the sick, cleansing the lepers, raising the dead, performing miracles and teaching and speaking as never man spake. Ah, yes, I am sure that in all those things they beheld a glory, but the apostle Peter reveals to us what is really meant by their beholding the glory of the Son. “For we have not followed cunningly devised fables, when we made known unto you the power and coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses of His majesty. For He received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to Him from the excellent glory (the glory cloud), saying, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with Him in the holy mount” (II Pet. 1:16-18)."
Amen
Amen!
"Another evidence that the “clouds” with which Christ comes are in fact the sons of God in their glory is couched in the terminology of the scriptures on this subject. In most places the passages in question speak of Christ coming “with clouds.” There is only one other group of plurality of objects of which it is stated that Christ comes “with” them, and that is – the SAINTS! “To the end He may establish your hearts…at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ WITH ALL HIS SAINTS” (I Thes. 3:13). Jude says, “And Enoch also…prophesied…saying, Behold, the Lord cometh WITH TEN THOUSANDS OF SAINTS” (Jude 14). The Amplified is helpful, when it reads, “Behold, the Lord comes WITH MYRIADS OF HOLY ONES – ten thousands of His saints.” But the Interlinear reading from the Diaglott translation gives the clearest of all renderings from the Greek text, so we note, “Lo, comes Lord IN HOLY MYRIADS OF HIMSELF.” Myriads of Himself! And all of them partakers of His divine nature, conformed to His image, imbued with His mind, filled with His life, radiating His glory! Myriads of Himself, of His own kind, born of His seed, reproducing His life, a many brethren company of sons – all His sons. Though there are multiplied testimonies to this truth, we will add but one more: “And the Lord my God shall come, and ALL THE SAINTS WITH THEE” (Zech. 14:5). The beloved John sees this same scene in wonder-filled vision and cries out, “Behold, He cometh WITH CLOUDS; and every eye shall see Him!”
Too much unfulfilled prophecy for the Son of Man to come back in the next few years
You think Jesus is just man? You think you are just a man?
The coming of Christ again will be within the population, people will become Jesus like.
When are you going to show your self to the world?
1 John 4:1-3
4 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.
2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
Anyone can be Jesus, or be like Jesus if you bring the Love of God out.
The antichrist is the Catholic Church and the pope.
Make sure your not in an egoic delusion that you are better or special than everyone else. I didnt expect you to say anything.
Get ahold of yourself, son. I'll clear half of it up right now. You're not Jesus.
If you keep your eyes open and study the Summerian cuneiform tablets you will find the creation of man in there. Created by the god Enki from the planet Nibiru. He stated that he will return. It will be around the 2700 AD. Before you decide I am wrong, please do some research. I have studied the Bible for many years before I expanded my research and found a better truth.