Even 5% would be acceptable so long as no income taxes are stolen. People would be able to save way more and most likely spend more when time is right. As the world becomes more awake, less evil is needed to show them.
We should eliminate property taxes while we're at it. If there's one thing you should own that nobody can take from you it should be your house. As long as you have to pay property taxes, it's nothing more than renting your land from the government.
In confused by the 16th amendment then, what does this mean if not that they can tax income? "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
property tax = you don't own property, you rent it. because if you stop paying property tax the govt will take it away from you. do you call that ownership?
It's the same thing renting from an HOA. You don't pay their bullshit fines, they put a lien on your house. You don't pay the lien fast enough for them, they'll repo your house. They're basically a government. HOA's should be unconstitutional.
Most states have a way of collateralizing liens. Make a cash payment to the local court of 115% or so of the amount of the lien and it is now not encumbering your property. It is then up to the lien holder to figure out how to foreclose on the collateral. Which nobody seems to understand. And the timelines to do so are much shorter in this regard. Where I used to live, you got 2 years to do it or it goes away. Doesn’t mean you can’t still file suit over the money; just that you do not have any security interest in property while you do it. Some asshole contractor tried that shit on me. He never figured out how to get the money lol
Edit: forgot to add, after the 2 years is up with no action you get your collateral back
My Town apparently voted for local taxes. I remember they tried this 20 years ago. I don't think anybody ever filled it out and then they ended up doing way with it. I certainly won't be filling it out this time either.
It is based on spending. It is one way that the rich will pay more taxes than the poor. I have nothing against honest rich people, but it is a very fair tax. The people who have little money to spend on extras will pay less taxes.
"It is based on spending. It is one way that the rich will pay more taxes than the poor."
Wrong, laddie. That's only true in absolute terms. Proportionately, this "fair" tax would take a bigger and bigger proportion of income as the amount of income decreases.
There is no way this can be rationalized. It's a flagrant steal, plain and simple.
If you and a guy who makes $250k more per year than you both buy a loaf of bread, why do you get to pay no tax and he have to pay 100% tax?
Thats patently unequal treatment under the law. You should both pay 20% combined for all levels of government and be done with it. If you spend nothing, the government gets nothing.
Most people are talking about the shadow economy where you pay billy to wash your car every week for $40, and then neither of you reports it to the IRS so billy doesnt have to pay taxes on it.
Its a government wet dream to be able to tax all of this, which is why they are desperate for you to venmo/whatever your money everywhere.
Even 5% would be acceptable so long as no income taxes are stolen. People would be able to save way more and most likely spend more when time is right. As the world becomes more awake, less evil is needed to show them.
We should eliminate property taxes while we're at it. If there's one thing you should own that nobody can take from you it should be your house. As long as you have to pay property taxes, it's nothing more than renting your land from the government.
No inheritance tax either. My kids shouldn’t have to lose out on my sacrifice because Uncle Sam wants to double dip.
Allof the. are unconstitutional. Government can only tax commerce.
In confused by the 16th amendment then, what does this mean if not that they can tax income? "The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration."
And capital gains and gambling tax
They'll pass that after the die off.
property tax = you don't own property, you rent it. because if you stop paying property tax the govt will take it away from you. do you call that ownership?
It's the same thing renting from an HOA. You don't pay their bullshit fines, they put a lien on your house. You don't pay the lien fast enough for them, they'll repo your house. They're basically a government. HOA's should be unconstitutional.
Most states have a way of collateralizing liens. Make a cash payment to the local court of 115% or so of the amount of the lien and it is now not encumbering your property. It is then up to the lien holder to figure out how to foreclose on the collateral. Which nobody seems to understand. And the timelines to do so are much shorter in this regard. Where I used to live, you got 2 years to do it or it goes away. Doesn’t mean you can’t still file suit over the money; just that you do not have any security interest in property while you do it. Some asshole contractor tried that shit on me. He never figured out how to get the money lol
Edit: forgot to add, after the 2 years is up with no action you get your collateral back
Shut up. You’ll own nothing and be happy. Now eat your bugs.
Then people can quit complaining about Bill Gates buying up all the farmland, because he doesn't really own that, either. Can't have it both ways.
My Town apparently voted for local taxes. I remember they tried this 20 years ago. I don't think anybody ever filled it out and then they ended up doing way with it. I certainly won't be filling it out this time either.
“Voted”
Worst most evil tax in my opinion.
It is based on spending. It is one way that the rich will pay more taxes than the poor. I have nothing against honest rich people, but it is a very fair tax. The people who have little money to spend on extras will pay less taxes.
"It is based on spending. It is one way that the rich will pay more taxes than the poor."
Wrong, laddie. That's only true in absolute terms. Proportionately, this "fair" tax would take a bigger and bigger proportion of income as the amount of income decreases.
There is no way this can be rationalized. It's a flagrant steal, plain and simple.
"Proportionate" taxation is a theft tactic.
If you and a guy who makes $250k more per year than you both buy a loaf of bread, why do you get to pay no tax and he have to pay 100% tax?
Thats patently unequal treatment under the law. You should both pay 20% combined for all levels of government and be done with it. If you spend nothing, the government gets nothing.
...and for those with illegal, unreported income to actually pay taxes.
Honest question, what's illegal, unreported income to you?
Most people are talking about the shadow economy where you pay billy to wash your car every week for $40, and then neither of you reports it to the IRS so billy doesnt have to pay taxes on it.
Its a government wet dream to be able to tax all of this, which is why they are desperate for you to venmo/whatever your money everywhere.