I just stay quiet and smile and interject when I can be objective without busting a bubble. I smile sometimes and they want to know my thoughts and Now I just say," "No You Don't" and they now understand it is not somewhere I will go. If they get easier maybe I will open up again but right now I just stay COMFY AF
I tried to tell them. A few of my cousins are also not vaccinated. Grandparents that are still alive are onto their fourth shot unfortunately. They are die hard maga as well. Gramps lived through Vietnam and is getting gov checks for agent orange exposure. He has had a few skin grafts the past few years. As for everyone else you can see the sinking fear in their eyes whenever anyone brings up COVID that they really don't know what they injected in them. Those are the liberal ones. The ones who ate healthy, exercised, got on diets etc. They are aging quicker than usual as well and all of the sudden people are popping up with health problems. Cousin 30 years old got the vax like an idiot. Said he was scared. I asked him if he had COVID and recovered then why did he get the shot. Blank stare. Basically the propaganda got to him. Ended up partially paralyzed for awhile which is quite odd for a thirty year old otherwise healthy man.
I left my immediate family (except for one sister) due to family issues over 20 years ago and these have been the happiest years of my life.
One of my big issues was repeatedly being told 'here's what's wrong with you' (projecting their issues on to me). Sounds kind of like what you're dealing with. I don't miss that at all.
Same, along with a little deeper verbal abuse. Sometimes you have to just dump the toxic elements of your life and move on, regardless of whether they're family or not, and decide that you aren't going to go through life like that anymore...
Oh yeah. I’ve had enough of the contempt and disrespect. My wife bans or censor literally everything I have to say. Not allowed to speak or express myself. All topics of conversation that matter or are important are unilaterally banned. She runs around telling everyone I am crazy. Calls me crazy to my face. Of course the children think she is a credible person so they too think I am crazy. Daughter stopped talking to me years ago. Storms out of the room and slams doors. Made my wife promise on her mother’s life she would not defy me and inject the children with deadly toxins, which she did. Then snuck around behind my back and did it anyway. Her mother then dropped dead suddenly and unexpectedly. I am beyond pissed. I’m just enduring this fucking bullshit to try and keep them alive with my guns, emergency supplies and silver. After that I think I am going to live in the woods by myself
And it’s not stuff you can agree to disagree about. It’s not stuff you can compromise on. You can’t not talk about it. This exposes a lack of true partnership.
This is why the Lord made Jesus the head of the household, followed by the man. A woman that circumnavigates this is destined to destroy themselves, the children and ultimately the family as a whole. You, my friend, are literally living the saga of Adam & Eve in real-time.
Mine has gotten so bad I just want to run from them, far, far away from them.
I have learned a lot in these last few years, one of the many eye openers was my family are not the people I believed them to be. I pray every day for Jesus to come, I want to go Home.
Yes, but it's getting a little more hopeful in my situation...I'm no longer met with a cognitive dissonance 'wall', through with the Truth cannot penetrate. Now I get tacit acknowledgement that I'm right. The most frustrating thing is the brainwashing is like an onion...getting through one layer at a time. Each layer offering similar resistance. [i.o.w. "how many times have I been right and 'the experts' been wrong over the past decade?...why do you still hold them above me?"] Never a legit answer, so hopefully I'm starting to drill a hole to the center, if you will.
From the sounds of it you're in a tougher spot, you've got my prayers. I can't really weigh in on the staying or going part, may the holy spirit be your guide.
I was back closer to my fam for a year to watch my dad die suddenly. We were renting a shitty house that flooded so we took off to FL. Now my mom has vaccine cancer and I feel bad I'm not there. They might need ya sooner than you know. And I was actually glad I was in a diff state when the Vax came out. Was called crazy more times than I can count by my fam....and my own fam my husband. Proven right in everything. I have never mentioned the Vax again to my mom or brothers. Caused a lot of anger towards me when I said well obviously the Vax killed our dad.
Totally your call, Caliblanco. I'm personally of the mindset that you never give up on family. My entire family: parents, spouse, brother, sister, nephews all vaxxed. I'm the ONLY exception (plus my 11yo son who I've been able to shield and will continue to til the day I'm gone). Otherwise, politically my family is pretty aligned, conservative/patriotic. Not sure of the entirety in your case, but stay positive, be patient and be as tolerant as possible. I know its not easy, but family never is.
Of course, if they're all batsh!t crazy and in opposition with you on EVERYTHING, then yea, maybe its healthiest to create some space. Honestly, what I find the hardest to understand is why anyone would think you (or anyone else) are "crazy" and "over-reacting". It's freedom of choice and being a discerning individual. That should NOT equate to any sort of bigotry or harassment.
Whatever you choose, give it ample consideration and do what you believe is best for you.
You're not alone. I face it daily from my family. All the evidence is right in front of them and they refuse to believe. I just stay quiet and will be there when their brains explode.
Metrophage: an interactively escalating parasitic replicator, sophisticating itself through nonlinear involvement with technocapitalist immunocrash. Its hypervirulent terminal subroutines are variously designated Kuang, meltdown virus, or futuristic flu. In an emphatically anti-cyberian essay Csicsery-Ronay describes the postmodern version of this outbreak in quaintly humanist terms as:
[A] retrochronal semiovirus, in which a time further in the future than the one in which we exist and choose infects the host present, reproducing itself in simulacra, until it destroys all the original chronocytes of the host imagination. [Cs1: 26].
The elaboration of Csicsery-Ronay's diagnosis exhibits a mixture of acuity (infection?), confusion, and profound conservatism:
[N]ot thinking about 'increasing the human heritage' ... dams up the flow of cultural time and deprives future generations both of their birthright as participants in the life struggle and attainments of the species and the very notion of history as an irreversible flow encompassing generation, maturation, and the transference of wisdom and trust from parents to children, teachers to students. The futuristic flu is a weapon of bio-psychic violence sent by psychopathic children against their narcissistic parents.
you should get a place on your own anyways trust me! Soo worth it to grind and make it on your own nothing like it. Steel sharpens steel.
I used to feel the same way in 2020 but since then I got fired from a job for refusing jab registry and still managed to land on my feet and continue to climb.
I stopped worrying about that the second I realized that the only things that I ultimately have in life is myself and God. I also stopped having expectations such as "they are family should act a certain way, or they shouldn't treat me that way." Humans will fail you. God won't.
Depending on your personal feelings, stress, relationships, you could bail and risk regrets, hang in and wait semi-patiently for someone to ask you how to detox from the shots, or plan your victory with select life insurance policies...
I just stay quiet and smile and interject when I can be objective without busting a bubble. I smile sometimes and they want to know my thoughts and Now I just say," "No You Don't" and they now understand it is not somewhere I will go. If they get easier maybe I will open up again but right now I just stay COMFY AF
I tried to tell them. A few of my cousins are also not vaccinated. Grandparents that are still alive are onto their fourth shot unfortunately. They are die hard maga as well. Gramps lived through Vietnam and is getting gov checks for agent orange exposure. He has had a few skin grafts the past few years. As for everyone else you can see the sinking fear in their eyes whenever anyone brings up COVID that they really don't know what they injected in them. Those are the liberal ones. The ones who ate healthy, exercised, got on diets etc. They are aging quicker than usual as well and all of the sudden people are popping up with health problems. Cousin 30 years old got the vax like an idiot. Said he was scared. I asked him if he had COVID and recovered then why did he get the shot. Blank stare. Basically the propaganda got to him. Ended up partially paralyzed for awhile which is quite odd for a thirty year old otherwise healthy man.
Agent Orange! — Good grief! I’m sorry for your anguish. Please know, though, we are all in this together. Nearly everyone I know is jabbed.
I left my immediate family (except for one sister) due to family issues over 20 years ago and these have been the happiest years of my life.
One of my big issues was repeatedly being told 'here's what's wrong with you' (projecting their issues on to me). Sounds kind of like what you're dealing with. I don't miss that at all.
My life story. Right here. There are such things as toxic families / toxic parents.
Same, along with a little deeper verbal abuse. Sometimes you have to just dump the toxic elements of your life and move on, regardless of whether they're family or not, and decide that you aren't going to go through life like that anymore...
Oh yeah. I’ve had enough of the contempt and disrespect. My wife bans or censor literally everything I have to say. Not allowed to speak or express myself. All topics of conversation that matter or are important are unilaterally banned. She runs around telling everyone I am crazy. Calls me crazy to my face. Of course the children think she is a credible person so they too think I am crazy. Daughter stopped talking to me years ago. Storms out of the room and slams doors. Made my wife promise on her mother’s life she would not defy me and inject the children with deadly toxins, which she did. Then snuck around behind my back and did it anyway. Her mother then dropped dead suddenly and unexpectedly. I am beyond pissed. I’m just enduring this fucking bullshit to try and keep them alive with my guns, emergency supplies and silver. After that I think I am going to live in the woods by myself
And it’s not stuff you can agree to disagree about. It’s not stuff you can compromise on. You can’t not talk about it. This exposes a lack of true partnership.
My family also thinks I am crazy. I deal with depression and anxiety so I guess this is proof, except which came first the chicken or the egg?
I haven't said this to them, but I'm glad I wasn't "crazy" enough to take the vaccine so hopefully will outlive them all.
I’m no doctor, but I am a gambler. All of my money is on you being sane.
This is why the Lord made Jesus the head of the household, followed by the man. A woman that circumnavigates this is destined to destroy themselves, the children and ultimately the family as a whole. You, my friend, are literally living the saga of Adam & Eve in real-time.
You are correct. There is a reason for everything and going against how things are supposed to work leads to disaster.
That's peachy when the man is wise enough to know when to listen, amigos. Sometimes the lady is significantly less crazy than the man.
That man is not following Christ. Period.
Is there any chance that your family will eventually wake up as things leak past the MSM?
If so, then it might be a good idea to keep quiet and wait. I am doing this to some extent.
Mine has gotten so bad I just want to run from them, far, far away from them. I have learned a lot in these last few years, one of the many eye openers was my family are not the people I believed them to be. I pray every day for Jesus to come, I want to go Home.
Please fren be careful what you wish for; we've been put here on purpose with a purpose for a purpose.
I am careful all eyes are on Jesus.
Nope, it's been a life-long thing with me and I do my Duty whether they like it or not.
And from time to time one or another will ask me stuff, turns out they do know who to ask when a notion strikes their pointed little heads.
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No I don't tell them that much,other than what they need to know,none of them live by me,so it's pretty easy.
Yes, but it's getting a little more hopeful in my situation...I'm no longer met with a cognitive dissonance 'wall', through with the Truth cannot penetrate. Now I get tacit acknowledgement that I'm right. The most frustrating thing is the brainwashing is like an onion...getting through one layer at a time. Each layer offering similar resistance. [i.o.w. "how many times have I been right and 'the experts' been wrong over the past decade?...why do you still hold them above me?"] Never a legit answer, so hopefully I'm starting to drill a hole to the center, if you will.
From the sounds of it you're in a tougher spot, you've got my prayers. I can't really weigh in on the staying or going part, may the holy spirit be your guide.
I was back closer to my fam for a year to watch my dad die suddenly. We were renting a shitty house that flooded so we took off to FL. Now my mom has vaccine cancer and I feel bad I'm not there. They might need ya sooner than you know. And I was actually glad I was in a diff state when the Vax came out. Was called crazy more times than I can count by my fam....and my own fam my husband. Proven right in everything. I have never mentioned the Vax again to my mom or brothers. Caused a lot of anger towards me when I said well obviously the Vax killed our dad.
Totally your call, Caliblanco. I'm personally of the mindset that you never give up on family. My entire family: parents, spouse, brother, sister, nephews all vaxxed. I'm the ONLY exception (plus my 11yo son who I've been able to shield and will continue to til the day I'm gone). Otherwise, politically my family is pretty aligned, conservative/patriotic. Not sure of the entirety in your case, but stay positive, be patient and be as tolerant as possible. I know its not easy, but family never is.
Of course, if they're all batsh!t crazy and in opposition with you on EVERYTHING, then yea, maybe its healthiest to create some space. Honestly, what I find the hardest to understand is why anyone would think you (or anyone else) are "crazy" and "over-reacting". It's freedom of choice and being a discerning individual. That should NOT equate to any sort of bigotry or harassment.
Whatever you choose, give it ample consideration and do what you believe is best for you.
Caliblanco, prayers sent. Hang in there.
You're not alone. I face it daily from my family. All the evidence is right in front of them and they refuse to believe. I just stay quiet and will be there when their brains explode.
— Nick Land, Meltdown, 1994
Na I'm used to it, going on 22 years since 9/11 they thought I was crazy since then.
What is more important to you: the possibility of "being right," or losing your entire family?
Come to Florida, a Sanctuary State.
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you should get a place on your own anyways trust me! Soo worth it to grind and make it on your own nothing like it. Steel sharpens steel.
I used to feel the same way in 2020 but since then I got fired from a job for refusing jab registry and still managed to land on my feet and continue to climb.
You can do it!
I stopped worrying about that the second I realized that the only things that I ultimately have in life is myself and God. I also stopped having expectations such as "they are family should act a certain way, or they shouldn't treat me that way." Humans will fail you. God won't.
Depending on your personal feelings, stress, relationships, you could bail and risk regrets, hang in and wait semi-patiently for someone to ask you how to detox from the shots, or plan your victory with select life insurance policies...
Seek out some like minded people to hang out with.