I've sneaked into one of those abandoned missle silo in the west, was about 4-5 stories deep, had living quarters, a generator room on springs and overall just mind blowing. Had 3 missle silos in that complex. At the end of the complex where the 3 silos met I found a ladder and climbed out the ladder praying the welds held and eventually made it to daylight in the middle of a field of grass.
More interesting is not more than 10 miles from that complex is a public park. I was eating lunch on a cement pad in that park and I felt a large train? Underground whoosh by the cement pad. I've heard stories about underground military raiIls but this is the first and only time I've felt it. With proper equipment I'm sure you could measure the schedule of the train and the direction easy to west or vice versa.
This park is about 1-2 miles from an interstate and also about half a mile from a union pacific railroad. I would surmise that most of the underground railways follow nearby established above ground railroads and interstates, probably for a myriad of reasons but namely reduced risk of drilling activity on private property intefering with operations.
Last time I visited it, they had welded steel bars to the front of the main entrance. I'm pretty sure you could dig 2-3 feet under those bars and squeeze under the gate. Saw zaw would work but this specific silo is close to private property.
The missle silos themselves were mostly filled with water when I visited, made it a bit creepier. Just mind blowing such a massive facility could be under the ground.
It sounds like you may have stumbled across a disused Minuteman complex. Do you have any idea what it was? There were silos for Atlas F, Titan I, Titan II, and all of the Minuteman series. At peak deployment, there were 1,000 Minuteman silos. It was often remarked within the Boeing Company that they made more money on the ground part of the system than on the missiles.
I will correct myself, now that I have looked at your map. Maybe a Titan II silo? These have silo launch doors; Minuteman has a sliding cover. But I don't see any indications of the Titan II exhaust ducts, so maybe a Titan I silo? Strategic defense was a serious matter in the 50s and 60s. Maybe from a more adult time.
As far as I know since it had living quarters it's a titan 1. I think later they realized having to staff the silo was a liability from a trust standpoint and I believe titan 2 silos were remotely controlled.
In the page you linked it's almost almost a 1:1 of the black and white 3d cutaway labeled Underground Missile Silo Dead Media Archive
There always would have been a control capsule and maybe a standby crew. The later system deployments were able to operate more silo clusters from a single control capsule. The conclusive discrimination is whether there is evidence of an elevator for the missile (Titan I) or exhaust ducts to the surface from the silo bottom (Titan II). Wikipedia has fairly good entries on these systems and a listing of the bases and locations where they were deployed, so you could probably correlate your location with that information. Right outside Denver is pretty distinctive.
Nope, sonic is just that, and the sonic you need for that is likely not at 60k feet. However, they recently found burried cities in Egypt using ground penetrating radar.
The "image" resolution for that is probably on the order of 10 meters. Good enough to detect a city and its streets, but hopelessly inadequate to image the interior of a launch silo.
As a former program manager (now retired) for cell phone/RF jamming systems, I was subjected to advanced concept research & design development testing in a broad RF spectrum. 🤔🤔🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲😎😎😎😎 The more you know. That's all I can say. Trust the plan......
Doubt it. What if instead, the CCP satellites are knock offs and are giving blurry images, so they had this balloon get closer to the surface? Sure sounds cheaper than sending another satellite with better camera.
Transmit the images to the satellites above and back to China.
The more interesting thing is where was it launched from that it got this deep before being found out.
So they are saying that China might get to the wreckage before us. The balloon was shot down within clear sight of the shore. So I guess we’re going to let a Chinese salvage vessel violate our territorial waters to retrieve wreckage of a balloon that violated our territorial airspace. You couldn’t make this up if you tried.
Also... it flew at an altitude where a small nuke detonated would be an EMP... Thus basically shutting down our electronic infrastructure.....
Chaos is the worst form....
Hopefully our DoD (Space Force) folks were all over this thing. I honestly believe while it was operating, they (white hats) were doing two things:
Jamming outgoing but allowing incoming transmissions. Tease it balloting nanosec bursts to think atmospheric disruptions and keep the search alive.
counter intel gathering by listening to it while it was active probing. Knowing the frequencies, energy pulses and timing protocols will tell us what it was designed to do.
But then again... what doI know.....NCSWIC
WWG1WGA
NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THATS CORRECT, THEY WOULD NEED A SYNTHETIC APERTURE RADAR SYSTEM AND THAT RADAR DOES NOT WORK WELL AT THAT LOW ALTITUDE, YOU NEED TO BE AT SATELLITE ALTITUDES SEE BELOW FOR INFO...
YOU CAN FIND SILO MAPS OF OLD SITES (ATLAS OR TITAN) ON THE INTERNET AND SEVERAL TITAN SITES ARE NOW EITHER TOURIST ATTRACTIONS OR HOMES. MORE LIKELY THEY WERE JUST LISTENING -ELINT!
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Not with any technology I’m familiar with. Geophones and seismic sensors are needed to map subterranean structures, it’s not possible from that height.
Remember if they call it a spy balloon, it is not a spy balloon.
If the government calls it Chinese, it's probably not Chinese.
Even if China admits it is.
Bit of a twist.. somewere on that baloon is a tag that says. Made in china.... 🤣🤣
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You mean to tell me the Chinese were unable to access this website? https://diycrafts212.blogspot.com/2019/08/minuteman-3-silo-locations.html Complete with cutaway view of launch silo?
I've sneaked into one of those abandoned missle silo in the west, was about 4-5 stories deep, had living quarters, a generator room on springs and overall just mind blowing. Had 3 missle silos in that complex. At the end of the complex where the 3 silos met I found a ladder and climbed out the ladder praying the welds held and eventually made it to daylight in the middle of a field of grass.
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More interesting is not more than 10 miles from that complex is a public park. I was eating lunch on a cement pad in that park and I felt a large train? Underground whoosh by the cement pad. I've heard stories about underground military raiIls but this is the first and only time I've felt it. With proper equipment I'm sure you could measure the schedule of the train and the direction easy to west or vice versa.
This park is about 1-2 miles from an interstate and also about half a mile from a union pacific railroad. I would surmise that most of the underground railways follow nearby established above ground railroads and interstates, probably for a myriad of reasons but namely reduced risk of drilling activity on private property intefering with operations.
I envy you. That belongs on a bucket list.
Last time I visited it, they had welded steel bars to the front of the main entrance. I'm pretty sure you could dig 2-3 feet under those bars and squeeze under the gate. Saw zaw would work but this specific silo is close to private property.
Entrance here Dropped pin https://maps.app.goo.gl/bgiEUSnR89HNzXxf7
The missle silos themselves were mostly filled with water when I visited, made it a bit creepier. Just mind blowing such a massive facility could be under the ground.
It sounds like you may have stumbled across a disused Minuteman complex. Do you have any idea what it was? There were silos for Atlas F, Titan I, Titan II, and all of the Minuteman series. At peak deployment, there were 1,000 Minuteman silos. It was often remarked within the Boeing Company that they made more money on the ground part of the system than on the missiles.
I will correct myself, now that I have looked at your map. Maybe a Titan II silo? These have silo launch doors; Minuteman has a sliding cover. But I don't see any indications of the Titan II exhaust ducts, so maybe a Titan I silo? Strategic defense was a serious matter in the 50s and 60s. Maybe from a more adult time.
As far as I know since it had living quarters it's a titan 1. I think later they realized having to staff the silo was a liability from a trust standpoint and I believe titan 2 silos were remotely controlled.
In the page you linked it's almost almost a 1:1 of the black and white 3d cutaway labeled Underground Missile Silo Dead Media Archive
There always would have been a control capsule and maybe a standby crew. The later system deployments were able to operate more silo clusters from a single control capsule. The conclusive discrimination is whether there is evidence of an elevator for the missile (Titan I) or exhaust ducts to the surface from the silo bottom (Titan II). Wikipedia has fairly good entries on these systems and a listing of the bases and locations where they were deployed, so you could probably correlate your location with that information. Right outside Denver is pretty distinctive.
And abandoned. Makes one realize the new stuff they must have makes these look point.
I am not buying all of this.
This is where my faith in Trump/White Hats come in.
Sure as hell was not a Chinese balloon.
Nope, sonic is just that, and the sonic you need for that is likely not at 60k feet. However, they recently found burried cities in Egypt using ground penetrating radar.
The "image" resolution for that is probably on the order of 10 meters. Good enough to detect a city and its streets, but hopelessly inadequate to image the interior of a launch silo.
Depends on who they is
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I assumed a Ground Penetrating Radar using their satellites as the emitter and the balloon array as a passive reciever.
It bugs me when people post complete abject speculation as irrefutable fact.
Intel on whether or not the balloon was mapping underground bunkers is light years beyond FrostyGaterLip's paygrade.
It's not even worth speculating over until it's framed properly ... as pure speculation.
As a former program manager (now retired) for cell phone/RF jamming systems, I was subjected to advanced concept research & design development testing in a broad RF spectrum. 🤔🤔🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲😎😎😎😎 The more you know. That's all I can say. Trust the plan......
I like this! 👆
Seems unlikely that type of survey could be done with any precision from 60,000 feet.
Intriguing!
It's just a psyact to make Biden look bad. Whether it was American or Chinese is irrelevant.
Q 140 - What if China, Russia, and OTHERS are coordinating w/ POTUS to eliminate the NWO?
Doubt it. What if instead, the CCP satellites are knock offs and are giving blurry images, so they had this balloon get closer to the surface? Sure sounds cheaper than sending another satellite with better camera.
Transmit the images to the satellites above and back to China.
The more interesting thing is where was it launched from that it got this deep before being found out.
So they are saying that China might get to the wreckage before us. The balloon was shot down within clear sight of the shore. So I guess we’re going to let a Chinese salvage vessel violate our territorial waters to retrieve wreckage of a balloon that violated our territorial airspace. You couldn’t make this up if you tried.
It was a FFfor the Classified & Hunter laptop.
Also... it flew at an altitude where a small nuke detonated would be an EMP... Thus basically shutting down our electronic infrastructure..... Chaos is the worst form....
Hopefully our DoD (Space Force) folks were all over this thing. I honestly believe while it was operating, they (white hats) were doing two things:
But then again... what doI know.....NCSWIC WWG1WGA
What makes these statements true?
It was just a weather balloon.
NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE THATS CORRECT, THEY WOULD NEED A SYNTHETIC APERTURE RADAR SYSTEM AND THAT RADAR DOES NOT WORK WELL AT THAT LOW ALTITUDE, YOU NEED TO BE AT SATELLITE ALTITUDES SEE BELOW FOR INFO...
YOU CAN FIND SILO MAPS OF OLD SITES (ATLAS OR TITAN) ON THE INTERNET AND SEVERAL TITAN SITES ARE NOW EITHER TOURIST ATTRACTIONS OR HOMES. MORE LIKELY THEY WERE JUST LISTENING -ELINT!
What is Synthetic Aperture Radar? | Earthdata.webloc
Not with any technology I’m familiar with. Geophones and seismic sensors are needed to map subterranean structures, it’s not possible from that height.
Good luck at Dulce. It's out of this world.
It was important to use them over Iraq in 2007 to get a closer look, and below clouds.
Things that can be done at close range, not at hundreds of kilometers altitude.
If you start out with an ignorant view of reality (e.g., the omniscience of satellites), you will never arrive at valid conclusions.
You'd be surprised....