It's widely been held that religious prophecy has been held against us throughout time. This hardly shows Clandestine's possible "contempt for Christianity." Besides, the "prophecy" of St John of Patmos could very well be describing the ONE PERSON whose gematrial number equals 666, that being Nero. Also, it's also widely known the Hebrew number for the anti-Christ is actually 616, not 666.
Gematria is a designed distraction from ever learning Comms.
If Clandestine is Comms Aware, much contempt could stem from that. Not to mention Vatican City.
Some Christianity-related Comms nuggets:
'Gilgamesh' is actually a fabricated story purposefully said to predate the Bible to cheapen Noah's Great Flood story. So it could be said that the Bible 'copied off of' an older tale. 'Gilgamesh' is used in Comms to = cheap knockoff.
The 'Dead Sea Scrolls' were fabricated in order to lend positive Optics for the creation of the Nation of Israel post-WWII.
☝️This is exactly what is being revealed to many many Christians all at once. 150 years ago some people made up some stuff about a rapture and paralyzed the believers who should’ve been keeping things going right. Now look at us. So much salt thrown in the street.
I believe the concept of the "anti-christ" itself is a Cabal creation. Much of the modern day bible is also a Cabal creation. There are of course genuine words within the bible, but the true word of Christ has been twisted and distorted over the centuries in order to fit the narrative the Cabal want humanity to experience. The Cabalists want any thought of a global peace keeper to by synonymous with Satan, when they themselves bow down and sacrifice the blood of our children to Ba'al and Molach. They are projecting as usual in order to keep humanity transfixed upon their narrative rather than their sins.
...but the true word of Christ has been twisted and distorted over the centuries
The only way to make this statement, and for it to be true, is to know what the original writings said in order to know that "they've been changed." Thus becoming a self defeating statement.
The Biblical writings have been preserved throughout the millennia by way of the thousands of manuscripts and copies currently in existence. Having more manuscripts and copies actually helps biblical critics work backwards to accurately represent what the original writings said (up to a 99.8% accuracy). No one group (including the Catholics) could have sole say in what the ancient manuscripts actually said because there were thousands of manuscripts in other locations not in Catholicism's possession. The vast number of Manuscripts acted as a checks and balance system against any unwarranted change or edits.
There is no other book (or collection of books) that compares to the Biblical writings when it comes to the number and quality of manuscripts in our possession. The Bible we posses in our hands today IS what the original authors wrote down.
You can take that to the bank (or maybe a credit union :P )
I would actually blame the Bible thumpers in this case, as anyone claiming that a person today is the Antichrist shows their ignorance of prophecy.
The Bible nowhere states that the Antichrist brings about or even seeks world peace. World domination perhaps, but not peace. It should be obvious that this alone disqualifies Trump from being the Antichrist.
The AntiChrist is not known to make any peace deals save the 7-year covenant with Israel that lets them rebuild their Temple. AC then betrays Israel halfway through the Tribulation, takes the Temple, and sets up worship of himself in it. This again is completely outside Trump’s character.
According to Daniel AC goes to war with Egypt at least twice during the Tribulation.
This is a bit speculative, but Daniel might indicate that the AC is from Turkey.
The AC doesn’t make his deal with Israel and doesn’t show up on the world stage until after the Rapture. If you’re a Christian alive today, you have nothing to worry about regarding the AC or the Mark.
Anyone shrieking about “insert person here” being the Antichrist, they simply have not read the Scriptures; same with those trying to predict the day of the Rapture. Can you really blame Clandestine for getting fed up with the false predictions?
I concur with your general statements. I have had concerns about Trump what if he were to broker a peace such that Israel starts to sacrifice?
With regard to AC being from Turkey, have a look at references to The Assyrian in the Bible, says he enslaved Israel in Egypt, it says He will enter the beautiful land (Holy Land) .
Daniel says the AC will be of the people who destroyed the Temple - must be of the Roman empire which never died, Papal Countries, Holy Roman Empire, Treaty of Rome, ECC, now EU. Turkey of course was the western leg of the Roman empire, there have been attempts to get Turkey into EU, will probably happen, finally Turkey was aligned with Germany in WWI
Also, this timeline constructed from end time prophecy indicates that the Antichrist’s covenant with Israel, and therefore the new Temple sacrifices, don’t start until after the Rapture and after Damascus, Russia, and Iran are wiped out.
This article details why the Antichrist might come from Turkey and points out that most of the soldiers involved in the destruction of the Temple, while led by Romans, were Syrians and Turks.
There were 4 Roman Legions involved. Whilst Legions were raise from one area populations had moved around such that without definitive and detailed records of ethnicity of soldiers in each legion, which I have not been able to discover, because someone says whatever its just an opinion, it may or may not be true.
Of the 2500 prophecies listed in the Bible 2000 have been proven (right down to the smallest detail…) that’s a better record than our predictions at GAW! Biblical prophecy is no joke. Sadly even most mainline ministers (not to mention the average person) are not educated about biblical prophecy so it has been written off as conspiracy theory- we all know what happens to conspiracy theories…
I appreciate your point. Hebrew to English translations and intentional editing in later periods present unique problems in the text. But IMHO Biblical prophesy is not all about time and place. Most do not specify any timeframe or even a location that still exists today. I think the point is that prophesy is designed to defy the odds…to bring glory to God because in the end God wins. Of course I respect your skepticism. God made you that way!
Glad you have that clarity, I guess. How the Romans mandated things versus how the Jews interpreted then can be up for discussion. Modern day, people declare themselves residents of different states for tax and government spending purposes too. I'm not sure which Herod you're referring to, b/c there are several, and purges of rebellious populations was sadly a common thing back in the day, thinning the herd and all that. Sort of like now, with the injections. Now granted, I don't do the deep dives with the rapid page-flipping preachers that try to match individual words across books etc, but I do listen to the archaeologists who are digging and finding truths that have been covered up, misreported, and unreported for a long time. I think that eventually the whole truth will come out, but I'm still going to watch most carefully where the evil attacks hardest. That's always been the Christians, the Catholic Church and Marian people. (Do you know, for example, how many times masons have bombed and tried to burn down shrines or churches dedicated to Mary?)
The messiah/savior as Christos and it's anti-thesis.
Are they literally single individuals, or forces/ideas?
This has created factions, with the literalist winning out in the Roman Council of Nicea. (by assassinating the other side of the 'discussion').
To promote the incorrect explanation would make one an anti-christ in the second example. 'And the church will become the whore.' was always an interesting phrase always attributed to 'the other guy'.
It seems that in order to be an antichrist, the person has to, at minimum, present themselves as a religious leader or maybe at least claim to be an authority on the subject. Trump does not do that. I would encourage people making these claims to read their bible a little more carefully.
I do not listen to anyone that talks contemptuously about Christians. I will pray for them that they might accept Jesus and be saved.
I am also very wary of people who say they know who the antichrist is. The internet era has produced a lot of self-proclaimed sages, paytriots and misinformationalists. These people are almost always attention whores or scoundrels that attract NPCs to their click bait content and inevitably provide nothing of value for truth seekers.
I don’t think Clandestine is being dismissive of all Christians; only those who insist that their interpretation of biblical prophecy is correct in spite of all the evidence contradicting said interpretation.
I don't see any contempt in that post.
He's just saying he's not playing the "find the anti-Christ" game.
Agreed. Op way off base.
It's widely been held that religious prophecy has been held against us throughout time. This hardly shows Clandestine's possible "contempt for Christianity." Besides, the "prophecy" of St John of Patmos could very well be describing the ONE PERSON whose gematrial number equals 666, that being Nero. Also, it's also widely known the Hebrew number for the anti-Christ is actually 616, not 666.
Gematria is a designed distraction from ever learning Comms.
If Clandestine is Comms Aware, much contempt could stem from that. Not to mention Vatican City.
Some Christianity-related Comms nuggets:
☝️This is exactly what is being revealed to many many Christians all at once. 150 years ago some people made up some stuff about a rapture and paralyzed the believers who should’ve been keeping things going right. Now look at us. So much salt thrown in the street.
When this is widely known things will change.
I believe the concept of the "anti-christ" itself is a Cabal creation. Much of the modern day bible is also a Cabal creation. There are of course genuine words within the bible, but the true word of Christ has been twisted and distorted over the centuries in order to fit the narrative the Cabal want humanity to experience. The Cabalists want any thought of a global peace keeper to by synonymous with Satan, when they themselves bow down and sacrifice the blood of our children to Ba'al and Molach. They are projecting as usual in order to keep humanity transfixed upon their narrative rather than their sins.
The only way to make this statement, and for it to be true, is to know what the original writings said in order to know that "they've been changed." Thus becoming a self defeating statement.
The Biblical writings have been preserved throughout the millennia by way of the thousands of manuscripts and copies currently in existence. Having more manuscripts and copies actually helps biblical critics work backwards to accurately represent what the original writings said (up to a 99.8% accuracy). No one group (including the Catholics) could have sole say in what the ancient manuscripts actually said because there were thousands of manuscripts in other locations not in Catholicism's possession. The vast number of Manuscripts acted as a checks and balance system against any unwarranted change or edits.
There is no other book (or collection of books) that compares to the Biblical writings when it comes to the number and quality of manuscripts in our possession. The Bible we posses in our hands today IS what the original authors wrote down.
You can take that to the bank (or maybe a credit union :P )
There is no such thing as thumping the bible too hard is what you are saying?
*Not to imply agreement on my part with that statement.
I would actually blame the Bible thumpers in this case, as anyone claiming that a person today is the Antichrist shows their ignorance of prophecy.
The Bible nowhere states that the Antichrist brings about or even seeks world peace. World domination perhaps, but not peace. It should be obvious that this alone disqualifies Trump from being the Antichrist.
The AntiChrist is not known to make any peace deals save the 7-year covenant with Israel that lets them rebuild their Temple. AC then betrays Israel halfway through the Tribulation, takes the Temple, and sets up worship of himself in it. This again is completely outside Trump’s character.
According to Daniel AC goes to war with Egypt at least twice during the Tribulation.
This is a bit speculative, but Daniel might indicate that the AC is from Turkey.
The AC doesn’t make his deal with Israel and doesn’t show up on the world stage until after the Rapture. If you’re a Christian alive today, you have nothing to worry about regarding the AC or the Mark.
Anyone shrieking about “insert person here” being the Antichrist, they simply have not read the Scriptures; same with those trying to predict the day of the Rapture. Can you really blame Clandestine for getting fed up with the false predictions?
I concur with your general statements. I have had concerns about Trump what if he were to broker a peace such that Israel starts to sacrifice?
With regard to AC being from Turkey, have a look at references to The Assyrian in the Bible, says he enslaved Israel in Egypt, it says He will enter the beautiful land (Holy Land) .
Daniel says the AC will be of the people who destroyed the Temple - must be of the Roman empire which never died, Papal Countries, Holy Roman Empire, Treaty of Rome, ECC, now EU. Turkey of course was the western leg of the Roman empire, there have been attempts to get Turkey into EU, will probably happen, finally Turkey was aligned with Germany in WWI
Also, this timeline constructed from end time prophecy indicates that the Antichrist’s covenant with Israel, and therefore the new Temple sacrifices, don’t start until after the Rapture and after Damascus, Russia, and Iran are wiped out.
https://barrysetterfield.org/Tribulation_Events_Timeline.html
Whilst I personally agree the rapture comes first, there are many sound Biblical expositors who do not agree.
This article details why the Antichrist might come from Turkey and points out that most of the soldiers involved in the destruction of the Temple, while led by Romans, were Syrians and Turks.
https://barrysetterfield.org/Cyprus.html
There were 4 Roman Legions involved. Whilst Legions were raise from one area populations had moved around such that without definitive and detailed records of ethnicity of soldiers in each legion, which I have not been able to discover, because someone says whatever its just an opinion, it may or may not be true.
I don't think he's showing contempt for Christianity at all. I think he's showing contempt for Bible-thumpers. Big difference.
Of the 2500 prophecies listed in the Bible 2000 have been proven (right down to the smallest detail…) that’s a better record than our predictions at GAW! Biblical prophecy is no joke. Sadly even most mainline ministers (not to mention the average person) are not educated about biblical prophecy so it has been written off as conspiracy theory- we all know what happens to conspiracy theories…
Which exact 2000 prophecies have been proven? Give me a list, please, so I can research them.
Absolutely fren! Check it out for yourself: Biblestudytools.com “The OT is filled with fulfilled prophecy” by Jim Wallace 2019 welcome your comments!
I appreciate your point. Hebrew to English translations and intentional editing in later periods present unique problems in the text. But IMHO Biblical prophesy is not all about time and place. Most do not specify any timeframe or even a location that still exists today. I think the point is that prophesy is designed to defy the odds…to bring glory to God because in the end God wins. Of course I respect your skepticism. God made you that way!
Archaeology has confirmed the census from Roman documents
Glad you have that clarity, I guess. How the Romans mandated things versus how the Jews interpreted then can be up for discussion. Modern day, people declare themselves residents of different states for tax and government spending purposes too. I'm not sure which Herod you're referring to, b/c there are several, and purges of rebellious populations was sadly a common thing back in the day, thinning the herd and all that. Sort of like now, with the injections. Now granted, I don't do the deep dives with the rapid page-flipping preachers that try to match individual words across books etc, but I do listen to the archaeologists who are digging and finding truths that have been covered up, misreported, and unreported for a long time. I think that eventually the whole truth will come out, but I'm still going to watch most carefully where the evil attacks hardest. That's always been the Christians, the Catholic Church and Marian people. (Do you know, for example, how many times masons have bombed and tried to burn down shrines or churches dedicated to Mary?)
Lol
The messiah/savior as Christos and it's anti-thesis.
Are they literally single individuals, or forces/ideas?
This has created factions, with the literalist winning out in the Roman Council of Nicea. (by assassinating the other side of the 'discussion').
To promote the incorrect explanation would make one an anti-christ in the second example. 'And the church will become the whore.' was always an interesting phrase always attributed to 'the other guy'.
Esoteric Christos or Exoteric 'Jesus Christ'
Discover the differences.
It seems that in order to be an antichrist, the person has to, at minimum, present themselves as a religious leader or maybe at least claim to be an authority on the subject. Trump does not do that. I would encourage people making these claims to read their bible a little more carefully.
I do not listen to anyone that talks contemptuously about Christians. I will pray for them that they might accept Jesus and be saved.
I am also very wary of people who say they know who the antichrist is. The internet era has produced a lot of self-proclaimed sages, paytriots and misinformationalists. These people are almost always attention whores or scoundrels that attract NPCs to their click bait content and inevitably provide nothing of value for truth seekers.
I don’t think Clandestine is being dismissive of all Christians; only those who insist that their interpretation of biblical prophecy is correct in spite of all the evidence contradicting said interpretation.
Bible-Thumpers do not equal all Christians.
By engaging with his retractors, he becomes guilty of doing the very thing he says he doesn't do: engage in religious prophecy.