If you are going to call me a doomer, please save your post. If I am wrong, I will be the first person to admit it and tell each and every one of you I AM SORRY!
I am posting this to actually get a NORMAL conversation going between those who may not agree with my outlook and those who do.
Every morning I listen to two podcasts – On the Fringe and X22. Due to blood pressure issues I try to stay away from actual doomers…those who are positive we are headed for the end of the world.
In order to help you understand my outlook here, let me list a few things that brought me to this moment in time.
- Biden has made Executive Orders that absolutely go against the Constitution.
a. YET! Not one person in Congress has stopped them as far as I know.
b. The bill to release all the Covid documents has been passed by Congress and sent to Biden’s desk.
c. YET! He has refused to sign it so far and according to the rules, Congress can pass the bill without his signature as long as Congress is in session-so why have they not done so?
d. If Congress is NOT in session and he doesn’t sign the bill, the bill does not become law. This is known as a pocket veto. In this case, Congress cannot override the veto because they are not in session.
IS BIDEN WAITING UNTIL CONGRESS IS IN RECESS AND IS CONGRESS WAITING FOR THE SAME THING TO AVOID THE INFORMATION FROM BEING DISCLOSED?
e. Biden has executive orders that will decimate the 2nd Amendment, yet I hear NOTHING from Senators and Representatives pushing back on these illegal orders.
- Moving off of Biden…How many of you have NOT been impacted by ANYTHING going on with the Government other than the price of goods and services?
a. For my family and friends…there has been nothing different daily other than the price of goods.
b. There are no empty shelves; online orders are filled quickly.
c. Our lives have not changed at all with the exception of us believing there would be empty shelves and consequently I doubt I will live long enough to consume all the products that are overflowing every nook and cranny of my home. Who in their right mind has 12 bottles or cocktail sauce on hand? Just in case. Yes, we eat a lot of fish, but come on, folks, a case of cocktail sauce? I could go on about Kleenex and Toilet Paper.
d. And just in case we lose the internet…I have downloaded hundreds of videos to flash drives…again just in case.
e. We just ordered Simplisafe…again – just in case of BLM and Antifa who may hit the boondocks.
- So, what am I getting at? HERE IT IS AND FOR THOSE OF YOU DOOMER ZEALOTS, STOP READING NOW.
a. Since Q began in 2017 the posts were done in such a manner that we were given HOPE BUT with the instructions to NOT be violent.
b. We were given HOPE with every post that judgement would be forthcoming, but to Hold the Line…Pray…Have faith that Military would be the only way.
c. This has gone on now for 5 1/2 years…and we are all still faithfully holding the line and trusting in the plan and the movie-and doing nothing but doing what they wanted us to be KEYBOARD WARRIORS!
d. And while we sit back and watch and listen to certain podcasts- that what is going on is part of the plan; being told that Trump is working with XI and Putin and according to Derek J we are in the midst of the Continuation of Government and of course there is the Devolution plan still going on-may I ask every one of you – Do you feel as if the White Hats are in control and if so, can you give us all proof based on anything other than certain podcasts?
i. How do you feel about Biden’s new EO which will essentially put you on a list that you own x amount of guns and cannot sell or give a gun away without being on his list? Do you see ANY CONGRESSIONAL ENTITY PUSHING BACK?
e. And just for an aside…if the White Hats were in control…would they have allowed Biden’s regime to destroy the Nordstrom Pipeline?
i. Would they have allowed the train derailment that has devastated East Palestine and all the waterways connected to it? ii. Would they have allowed all the other environmental train derailments to have occurred?
iii. Would they have allowed all the chicken farms, daily farms, cattle farms, etc. to be destroyed?
iv. Would they have allowed the CV19 vaccine to continue going forward?
v. WOULD THEY HAVE ALLOWED THE “DIED SUDDENLY” PEOPLE TO NOT BE CLASSIFIED AS A RESULT OF THE CV19 VACCINE?
- Here is my unpopular viewpoint-it is that we have been hoodwinked by the CIA and other government outfits to believe that Q was on the side of the patriots and Trump.
a. That the entire program (like DARPA) was established to keep us and other patriots at bay while they did as much damage as they could do to this Country and the entire globe.
b. What better way than to make us believe there was a secret military establishment working in the background to come forward and save the day?
c. Does Trump know what is going on? I have no idea, but I would guess that he does know and at this point in time he is powerless to do anything about it but keep moving forward hoping we the people will force the government to make it right.
d. My honest opinion is that it is far too late and GOD forgive me if I am wrong, but Putin knows what is going on and if my hubby and I were much younger we would give up our US citizenship and move to Russia. At least there we could go to Mass as we wish and still buy gas.
- Folks, I hesitated to write this post as I am sure there are many of you who cling to the belief that Q and Trump and some small Military force will save us. The only savior we have is JESUS CHRIST and if HE decides to decimate the WEF, The Demoncrats, the FBI, CIA, FDA, WHO, NATO, DOD, Dept of Education, SCOTUS, HHS, and all Government entities, so be it.
a. And while he is at it…decimate Newsome, and all the blue state governments.
b. And one more thing, folks…We all KNOW Kari Lake won Arizona, so ask yourself why…WHY has the judicial branch of the state not rectified the election? Because the entire judicial branch of the state is corrupt, as is the entire judicial system in all blue states and unfortunately in some red states.
c. And do you think for one minute that SCOTUS will rectify it? If they didn’t do it for a presidential election, what makes you think they will do it for a state election? That is why you have heard very little from Kari in the last few weeks. She knows there is no way for her to win.
- OKAY, I would love to hear from true patriots who can give me rock solid evidence that my thoughts are BS. A good conversation is welcome.
I don't think you're dooming. I've had the same thoughts. I don't have any evidence but my trust in the plan, and I usually think with my heart and not my head. My heart says we are winning, but we are at WAR. This is more of a spiritual war than a physical war. Most of the apparatus that we grew up in, is being dismantled, and that is painful while it is happening. A new world is being created, and is already here. If there are any negative outcomes, keep in mind it could be way worse. The path the white hats have taken us down is the one with the best possible outcome, not the perfect possible outcome. There have been casualties, and will be more, but we win in the end. God wins. A new golden age of humanity is right at the door.
Dude, which part of “Only at the precipice will the people find the will to change” do you not follow?
How many precipices do we need to see?
Only one. If you think we have reached it already, you ain't seen nothing.
And don't sit there and complain when we were told exactly what to expect. No one said it was going to be easy to not only take down the evil thats been entrenched for centuries, but also completely wake up the people to our reality, so it never ever happens again.
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You yourself said you haven't been painfully affected. Thus, not the precipice.
Turn to Jesus let him guide u and show u the truth. It's the only way to eliminate this thought completely..faith and prayer
My belief in Jesus is probably more than you would believe...which is why I posted what I did.
We All need to know as best we can where this world is heading and Jesus is the only way we can be sure of. I no longer have faith in "The Plan " as designated by Q.
I no longer have faith in the plan as designated by DJT, Derek, Devolution, and all other podcasters who supposedly know where this country is headed.
I now only believe in Christ. If HIS plan coincides with DJT, Derek, and Devolution, I will submit to believing in their predications. Amen and Amen.
Awesome glad to hear. My fren there was no judgement In my words. I wasn't doubting u believe in Jesus. I simply have no idea where u are in your walk. My words were advice on how u can move forward In confidence from the current thoughts u have. Ask Jesus these questions and listen for his voice. Let him show u. It's the only way that doubt can go away. There is no way to prove Q with out a doubt. Only Jesus can show u the truth. U might be surprised what he is currently doing. He is good and he loves us. Do u understand what I'm saying
In my view.
Trump isn't going to stop the deep state. The only thing I think he would stop is them bombing a city and killing a bunch of people.
I do think they will stop another major bio outbreak as well.
If there are the white hats out there.
They are not going to stop anything unless it's destruction via a bomb.
I think Trump believes that everything else is recoverable. It will take work. But I think he believes it can be fixed.
Trump is going for a significant power grab here.
If he wins in 2024, he wants to remove all naysayers. He wants to come in with a mandate.
Thank you for keeping this conversation ongoing as I had hoped it would be.
To keep the conversation ongoing...What will happen if he does not have the ability to win in 2024?
What will happen if Kari Lake cannot win in Arizona?
And if Trump believes everything is recoverable how can he do it if all the 3 letter agencies are corrupted?
My fear is, that all we have believed in for the last few years was a scam, has made us actually weak and the Biden Administration will eventually remove our gun rights while we sit back and wait for DJT and the military.
Keep in mind the bigger picture here.
If they cannot get everyone to accept the CBDC. Their whole plan fails.
I have mentioned that I am a software engineer.
The whole point of the "Great Reset" is to implement a currency that they can control.
What does Trump own? Trump is a private business owner who is connected to many business owners.
Trump doesn't need to be president to stop the Cabal's end goals.
Trump just needs a combination of the people + enough business owners like Grant Cardone and Robert Kiyosaki on his side.
In my view.
This is a battle between
The "Entrepreneur Elites (Main Street PRIVATE Business Owners)
Vs
The "System Elites" (Wall Street PUBLIC Paper Generated Billionaires)
All Trump needs to do is create a movement to move to another currency option that's not the CBDC.
Once that happens. The Cabal is done.
Always remember who Trump is.
Trump is a money guy. That's where his main focus will always be.
He wants to bankrupt the "System Elites"
NSA, where all the satellite and surveillance has been moved, is apparently not woke and not black hat. Military is still populated by Patriots.
The only interference points we the people have, and have always had, are local, and people have barely started to wake up to this. Town and school councils, sheriffs.
The statement "white hats in control" is a relative statement imo. Yes, white hats can be, and are (in my opinion) in control. However, the level of the exact quantity and quality of that control is an unknown value to us in the public.
Some people assume that the level of white hat control is near omnipotent, and omniscient. I do not share those opinions.
I do believe that white hats are indeed in control of quite a lot, and that white hat efforts are marching our nation and society towards an eventual victory over a global swamp so vast, most of us cannot fathom its depth, and complexity.
Long story short, we are in a global war, battles will be won, and some lost. But at no time in my life have I witnessed the swamp establishment losing so much ground, so rapidly.
Nor can I point to any period in US history where establishment strongholds like Hollywood, sportsball, the "intelligence" community, and the MSM have exhibited the level of diminished power over the public as they do today. We are winning this thing; and white hats are in control- enough control, to ensure that eventual victory.
I tend to agree with this. I think they have control of the things that matter and the things they don't are known and on some kind of leash so they can't go too far. Including the "economy".
DJT's inauguration speech, he said "We are transferring power from Washington DC and we are giving it back to you. The People."
There are too many unknowns about what the plan even is -- its easier to highlight what is the show in some instances, but its tough to see what is not the show. Even being aware of the dismantling of establishment strongholds, its tough to feel like we're winning when the real game is being played in the dark. We don't even really know how crippled the opposition is or isn't. Estimates range from them still being around and fighting for control, to being controlled by WH strings, to being actors and deep fakes.
I'd like to think they're fuckin dead and the only real fight is happening in tunnels under Ukraine.
Logical thoughts fren. I really don't mention Q anymore in my fam bc I'm still ridiculed mainly bc everything is worse this much later, not better. I don't understand it and can't fathom any good guys in control would "allow" all these deaths for example. Vax took my own dad and maybe my mom soon.....so I'm pissed like many. I don't think good guys if they are real would allow it....just maybe powerless to stop it by now? Makes zero sense why many "leaders" aren't in jail or executed yet. Zero. The dark side really is that powerful and it's overwhelming to realize how strong evil really is. I've just come to think that it really is good vs evil/biblical. Their evil is that strong. If they win, I weep for bringing children in to this world. Buuuuuut like u said, there's un-fucking-deniable Q proofs. Really confusing and wish we'd get a real sign. Guess I have nothing to add really lol. Just feel ya! And HAH! on the cocktail sauce. Thats funny girl!!! Makes me want some ice cold cocktail shraaamp :) just glad I got yall on here. Saved me from utterly going insane a few yrs ago
You've articulated yourself very well, and I confess that Ihave thought the exact same things. I even have a lot oc coktail sauce.
My opinion goes back and forth. And when I am of the same mind as your post, it bugs me to hear "This is a war, buteercup... buckle up" , etc. I, too, want some clear evidence that WH's are in control. In fact I have posted before that I think WH's have approached a limit, and as new people awaken, older previously awakened people are falling away (not back asleep, but giving up on the plan), and therefore they need to shore up the movement with something... a post... a proof, etc. Trump making an air Q does not cut it.
But, there are moments when I think, "THAT is the clearest signal, ever, that we are watching a scripted movie and WH's are in control.". And, of course, I cannot remember a single one at the moment (Anons, help!)
For me, the instances of the movie script are the clues that WH's are orchestrating a plan, and there will be punches thrown by the deep state that really hurt... but those are attached to the Biden Admin. So, the awakening of the populous to the absurdities of socialists is the reason bad stuff still happens.
Anyway, thanks for the post. That's my two cents. If I recall the movie script moments I will let you know.
“ But, there are moments when I think, "THAT is the clearest signal, ever, that we are watching a scripted movie and WH's are in control.".
I guess there have been a lot of Pedo rings busted since 2017 and to my knowledge , the pace hasn’t stopped. Plus, it does seem to be true that every policy decision “Biden “makes seems to blow up in his face.
Agree, I know we've lost people (giving up on the plan) and sometimes think left wing, right wing, same bird. It's ideal to pretend to have opposition when really there is none and sometimes I think maybe that's at play
I hear ya fren - I no longer argue for Q or Trump. This is ALL about good versus evil - and evil is running rampant. I was always a lukewarm Christian - but now I’m a devout Christian. This is the hill I choose to die on. I cannot change people hearts - but maybe my faith can change the hearts around me. I do believe it will get worse for us. This is not the precipice- everyone is still too fat & streaming shit. When I think of prophecies given or messages given from heaven through apparitions.. etc - the Antichrist is here on earth now- it’s why the earth is moaning & groaning & why we will see more crazy weather and natural disasters. America will be brought to her knees & the world will turn her back on us. But God doesn’t & we become the launching pad for the end time battle. - sorry I’ve gone off on a tangent but I guess my prayer now is for God to intervene somehow someway to save this country. I always hoped that Trump would be our president before all this so we could fortify our country & instill self sufficiency before the battle. There is still time. In the meantime all I can do is pray & make sacrifices to try and negate some of this evil.
We keep praying, and we keep seeing more people wake up. Heck, a while back, one of the big satanists in New Zealand had a vision of Christ and fully repented. Made a tearful video telling of his conversion and new faith. If a high priest of satan can turn, anyone can!
I forgot about this! Thanks for reminding me. This is a battle for souls.
I get you, aumone. Thanks for your post.
Another thing to consider, is that waiting for “the military is the only way”, makes it difficult to clarify further. Which “Military”? What aspect of the Military’s Way? The Art of War Manual? We must remember that what is going on is, in fact, only partially limited to the USA. It is GLOBAL! The citizens of every country (especially the Awake citizens) are trying to keep their heads above water with all the evil shenanigans being forced on them, with absolutely no legal recourse, anywhere. Now I realize that the Law in itself, stems from Evil proprietary belief, but any semblance of reasonableness has vanished. The People are not being listened to, anywhere. Maybe this had to be revealed, too. If, as we want to believe, the White Hats are in control, and we are to Trust in the Plan, then it is an awful lot of Faith that we are still expected to put in Q.
Nevertheless, I am still trying to maintain Hope that I/we will be around to witness the fulfillment of The Plan. WWG1WGA.
Blessings.
I understand your feeling. This seems like a natural line of questions for any logical person. I believe that theres a plan, I also believe i could be wrong.
Now, I don't stockpile, I don't prepare. I don't store food or go buy more ammo. I do not react out of fear of what might come. The greatest gift this world could give to me..... is death!
A friend of mine asked what I would do since I don't prepare.... I said "I do prepare, every day I set my sight on Jesus and I prepare, if I am hungry He feeds me, if I am lonely he comforts me, and if I'm wrong about this plan and the world state.... Jesus will bring me home.
I do not fear death, I do not fear tribulation, I do not fear... the best part of the clown show is the following.
I no longer hold passion for my country, I no longer hold anger towards my enemy, I no longer feel the need to fight. This clown world has opened my eyes and is purifying my heart.
And Jesus said "Blessed are those who are pure of heart for they shall see God" Matthew 5:8
Do not fear brother/sister God's plan is an eternity in the making.
God Bless fren
Not sure we were put here to just "check out"- the parable of the talents vibes to mind. We will be held accountable for what we did with what the Lord gave us.
We have open eyes and sharp minds, and all sorts of talents- we must retake our towns and rebuild our youth. We're put here for reasons, and sitting back testing God's grace just doesn't sound right. How many frustrated prophets did He send out and send out again? We don't hear of the idea who gave up, except for Jonah and only because an example was made of him. But I'd hate to be one who hid away instead of going out and working hard for Him.
With respect, I am not testing God's Grace. I am active in my community and with what God puts in my heart is my job.
For some their Job will be out there. For others it will be at home. However, in the end I tried to take my own life and Jesus didn't allow it. As such, He will either allow us to fall or save us.
If you wish to go fight the world then by all means. I won't judge you. God's Grace is everywhere and in all things and I place my life on Jesus and my Kids.
You can take control of your life, or you can ask God to take command. I do the later.
If it comes to pass He asks me to stand and fight. Then I pray for my enemies, for I will follow wherever God leads.
You prepare all you want. All is vanity when the God begins to go to war.
God Bless
Ah I didn't know you had those kind of issues, sorry
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No apology necessary. I did have those issues. I do not now. I walk with Jesus daily. In that darkness He showed me new life and equipped me to help others in that situation.
The real eye opener was when all of Congress and SCOTUS failed to act. The corruption has been in place and offered for many generations- a decade wouldn't be enough to change it without a violent civil war. If there had been a military takeover, perhaps you missed this, but the UN and China were ready to invade on behalf of the deep state administration under the pretext of keeping the peace.
It's not that white hats are allowing things, they're moving to stop them where possible and minimize their effects while still trying to get people riled up enough to wake up and take charge again. We're not supposed to sit back and watch idly, but move back into the spaces our great grandparents ceded to the satanists/communists. If you've been hunkered down and isolating, well, that was never the message as far as I could see. Meanwhile, pedo gangs are being busted left and right, sudden resignations, companies collapsing, now banks collapsing, and despite all the continuing efforts to kill off our supply chains and food supplies, we're not looking like Venezuela yet.
Maybe it does have to get to the point of digital 'rich' people having to dumpster dive before enough people wake up. (Look for Trey Smith's Dark Tracks video, it may have to get pretty bad before Americans appreciate how things really work.)
Finally read all the posts (I had no idea there were so many)
But to respond to you Litecola2, there are millions of us who are too old to do much more than "hunker down" as I am and my hubby.
The best I can do to help is write, as I did here.
I am lucky to get thru the day on my feet due to osteoarthritis and pain as I was told 20 years ago I would be in a wheel chair by now and I AM STILL WALKING!
Not looking for sympathy as I have been able to get a great deal done anyway thanks to my non-stop prayers and the answers He has provided.
God Bless everyone on this board and ALL the Moderators! Having a long and mostly unbiased conversation has been a beautiful thing.🙏
Kek, you didn't "sound" old at all... Godspeed and best wishes
Thank you!
I believe the President has 10 days to sign a bill while congress is in session, otherwise the bill becomes law. Almost there.
Pretty much my sentiments. Tired of watching the stolen elections. 2024 will be no different. Nobody of interest has gone to prison or been hung in the streets. Just biding time while the Great Reset goes into effect. Soon everyone will be pushed into CBDC's... more and more children in this generation are being indoctrinated into the trans agenda. The World is fucked. Traditionally "white countries" are being overrun by colored immigrants. And media nonstop pushes interracial relationships. Soon, the entire world will be a melting pot of mixed races. Traditional art, culture, food will no longer exist. Also no need for countries when everyone is just mixed and the same. The destruction of national pride and religion will give nobody a reason to fight to preserve anything. The One World Government will take over. It's pretty obvious. I'm often looked at funny for defending Hitler, but he understood the importance of preserving national pride and culture and he clearly needed to be stopped as that thought process couldn't be allowed to move forward. I don't think we've been given the correct details of what really happened in WWII and the events leading up to it.
Um, hanging in the streets isn't what we should hope for. I'd personally love live proceedings from Gitmo, but definitely not street violence- read first hand witnesses of the French revolution, not pretty and we should not stain our souls with that.
Don't be defending Hitler either, he was in league with pure evil and beholden to the same bankers running everything. Of course history has been rewritten. But we can see outcomes and decide for ourselves who "won." Project Paperclip and the creation of the UN tell us a lot.
Propaganda being pushed wouldn't be necessary if everyone has already bought into the lies, by the way. Stop watching it. Build instead of observe. If you have kids in government indoctrination centers, get em out. If not, help others to get em out. Become an expert in the 1776 curriculum, found for free at Hillsdale College, and become a homeschool tutor or whatever your state calls it, for a mini school or pod or co-op or individual families. Lecture at church and rebuild Civic pride and duty, volunteer, take a council seat, etc. Nothing can happen at the top that will last if we don't have the foundation strong.
God bless, pede, get out there and reclaim your space.
I have faith in Trump and MAGA. I have a little less faith in the q posts themselves . And it is NOT because I find q disingenuous. I think it’s because I believe it’s possible think that Q might have became infiltrated at some point. For example, why should I trust Wray( especially twice?) if The only way would be if he was a sleeper so if he doesn’t prove himself to be, is anyone going to go back and question this ? Or how about Grassley ? Q says we’re supposed to trust him and I have always enjoyed Grassley but why doesn’t he want Tucker to have the January 6 footage? I know not everything can be black and white , but I thought that if the military was in control, and we would’ve had them stand up for the constitution. I thought the military was one area that would fight vaccine mandates, among other unconstitutional laws. Also, in 2022 as far as I know, all 50 states used the same software for the midterm elections. After we just had the biggest elections steal in modern history. And what happened? patriots - not just Republicans, but MAGA patriots , started blaming each other and/or Trump when we didn’t have as much of a big wave as we thought we’d have . It was very stupid in my opinion. Have we become election-fraud-fatigued? Anyway.. just some of my grievances 😅
It's good to see more people using the discernment Father has given them. I've been focused on God's righteous plan that His Holy Spirit has been showing me for quite some time now.
The best part of it all is that when I'm completely focused on His word and walking in repentance and trying to build a relationship with Him, that's when I couldn't care less about this plan or any other that man has projected on us.
I realized the hard way through much spiritual, mental turmoil that there's no way that a plan that causes this much pain in my life is of God. Only the enemy is a deceiver and hides in the shadows.
God told us the truth from the beginning to the end. Us foolish men and woman go screwing it up by looking to men and their devices to deliver us.
I'd rather be where I am today with Father YAH than on the sidelines hoping and waiting for Man to deliver me and mine from the clutches of death. Because now I'm truly free from all that bondage, strife and conflict.
So whether God is using Q to test me or to deliver me, my complete faith is in Him who created me and His son Jesus. Time will tell whether this is a evil psyop or not. I'm a skeptic by nature, so my intuition tells me to run for cover under my Mighty heavenly Father's wing, to let Him fight my battles and to guide me on His straight and narrow path that leads back home to Him.
Trust in the plan of the One who made you, not the one who is hiding behind a curtain of mystery. That's my opinion and advice on the matter. Frankly I'm here for the news. Blessings brothers and sisters.
But did He put you here to "let Him fight" your battles? Or to use the talents He gave you to fight for Him? We will be called to reckoning, what will we say when asked what we did? Did we help others, did we fight for the greatest country on earth, did we help people get to church, get away from government schools, get off welfare, retake their dignity...? Did we help awaken anyone, possibly saving their souls? Whatever level we are assigned to based on where we are and what talents we have, being a passive observer isn't a valid option. You want to be a chronicler or historian, well that's a lot of work too, you know. Still have to get out there and grab materials before they're memory-holed. (Do you have any idea how many small town papers have been burned down with all their original microfiche records?) So much work to do...
Did God need the Israelites to overthrow the Pharo? Did they have to do anything other than put the blood of the lamb (Jesus) on their doorposts (hearts)?
One of the greatest lies told was God helps those who help themselves. Who are we to think we have any power over HIStory. Sure He uses us, but He doesn't need us to accomplish His will.
I am doing my part by being obedient, repenting daily, watching as I'm commanded. Which is why I'm here to hopefully plant a seed to someone who may be spiritually bankrupt like I was a few years ago.
Clearly not for you. Jesus didn't come for those not in need of a physician.
Fishers of men, still hard work. God chose to work through his messengers, not sure where you're going with the Israelites, since he called Moses and through him, called them to go into the desert.
But your strawman is interesting - God helps those who help themselves = we have power over Him in any way. Lens into your frame of mind, perhaps. I can see the Sadducee sort of mentality, check all the boxes and like a vending machine, get saved, but then a nihilist intrusion: He doesn't need us, so we shouldn't do anything. Goes against the whole free will concept, so perhaps you're a fatalist - everything is written and you can't change it.
Anyway, we can't earn our salvation, but we have to choose it (I'm obviously in the free will camp). And we have an obligation (once we choose salvation in Him) to use what He gave us to give glory to His name where we are. Not hiding lights under bushels. At least your prayers can accomplish many things, oh wait, you seem to make the argument nothing we do impacts Him. Even though Jesus said we should pray, and ask, a lot. Maybe that's a lie too? I'm not sure now. Would Sodom have been saved if there were 50 righteous people there? Or 20? or 10? There weren't even that many, but would that prayer have had an effect? Seems like you'd say no, so now we're at odds with both OT and NT. I don't like that at all.
Are you a fishers of men? Or are you a pusher of a political ideology? Let God be the judge of those questions.
Last time I checked we're both on the sidelines watching the demise of our country and even the world. What exactly are many doing in this hour? Hanging out in their echo chamber, regurgitating someone else's research and headlines.
I'm called to deny myself and pick up my cross and follow Christ. Did Jesus preach for His followers to overthrow the Roman empire? No He preached the gospel of the kingdom of God.
The problem I see is many try to tie their patriotism directly with their Christianity. That's a fatal flaw for the times we are in. We are ambassadors of God. What happens during war? The ambassadors get called home.
America has been great to us and God has blessed us with this country. However the time comes when we are called to come out of the world/Babylon. It's my view that this is exactly what the true believers are being called to do.
As I said from the beginning, only those with discernment can see what time it truly is. News flash Babylon has fallen and while we witness it from the sidelines, our Father has called His people to gather for the harvest.
So you and I are either gathering or scattering the flock. Personally I don't think the Almighty cares for this reprobate country any longer. He's only focused on His remnant.
He literally has watched 2/3 of this once great land pollute themselves (His temple) and alter His creation. If you truly understood what that means to Him, you would realize the times of red white and blue and apple pie are over. He said He would send a strong delusion. That there would be a falling away and that in the latter times the truth would be found nowhere in the land. That's exactly where we are.
So I caution you and any other believer who thinks America's best days are ahead of her. Read God's word and study it. Seek His wisdom through prayer and listen to the only teacher for us believers, His Holy Spirit.
I've heard His call and seen that we're entering a dark tunnel where things will not work for us, the common folk. Some will never get out of the tunnel but many will make it out to the light at the end and build and rebuild. If you believe that anything disagreeing with you is a delusion, and that you're in the "latter times" and this is the end, I'm truly sorry for you. Hopefully you'll live to see the light on earth before the lights of heaven.
Show me in scripture where it says there's light on earth coming before Christ's return. My Bible tells me things will continue to get worse up until the Messiah's return. You have naive optimism that isn't supported by scripture. You have man's idealogy and schemes that give you your understanding. Mine come from God's Holy Spirit and His word.
Tell me one time in recordable history that the entire world was deceived to take poisonous medicine. You can't, because it hasn't ever happened until our time. God's word shows us that this is one of the signs of His soon return.
I don't think it's the end for me. In fact it the beginning. However for all workers of iniquity it will be they're end soon enough. Heck some are already ended due to their ignorance. Jesus did say they would perish due to a lack of knowledge. You can give me a hundred examples and proofs that our best days are ahead of us, but if it isn't coming from God's word than it's just wishful thinking.
There's so much that He's shown me that backs this up. I'm convinced that God is leading me on the strait and narrow and that He has blessed me with some of His wisdom in this late hour.
I believe you've been given a chance to hear the truth. If you decide to deny it, that's on you. But I'll be listening to the Holy Spirit and stop throwing my pearls towards those who have no discernment.
So we're not better of than the middle ages and the plague? Huh.
yes, the solid Proof is -
Patriots are in control
that is it.
Have you read ALL the drops MULTIPLE times Along with the Bible, specifically the Q-Source section? always helps to review
how could these things you list happen if Trump is in Control? Do bad guys still get to interfere? Would that be 'logical'? it's a show/scripted movie & Q wrote it.
yes, the steps might not be what we want, but they're obviously necessary, Trump is efficient to a fault, so don't think there are mistakes happening on Qs part.
Thank you for giving me what my post was done for! A conversation regarding what is going on NOW.
Yes, I have read ALL the Q posts many times and have read scriptures many times over.
And as I said at the beginning If I am I am wrong I will profusely apologize for being wrong.
you're welcome & it's not so much being 'wrong' it's more about approaching it in a way that isn't efficient, and many of us know that. like putting regular gas in a diesel, it won't operate the way it's supposed to. you're making this more difficult than it needs to be/all those 'details' you're asking about.
Understanding Q is an internal process & the easiest way to get there is to simplify. block out the noise, 'listen' to yourself...not the YT shows, etc. that just leads to confusion and anxiety.
Q told us we have it ALL & the Socratic method of teaching assumes the same; the answers are within once you start 'seeking' Q also said 'enjoy the show' so if you're not enjoying it at this point, review is necessary/will help.
I agree with you up until your comment about moving to Russia. I have many friends who currently live in Russia, they are underground Christian missionaries. You must do some deep research. There are several mainstream CHRISTIAN religions that have been banned in Russia! Unless you do it Putins way, you are banned, jailed and sometimes murdered. So no, you couldn’t just go to mass as you wish. And to think life would be better there is just an ignorant statement. Start talking to people who have immigrated here, to the US. Get it from the horses mouth for gods sake! You are still believing what Putin wants you to see and believe. Do not be misled! There are wolves in sheep’s clothing. If you are a Christian, you should be well aware of this fact.
But everything else I agree with. I have said for a long time, there is no plan. I do appreciate the information I receive here from fellow patriots. But this idea of a plan would not have allowed the things to happen, happen. I do not believe all out violence is the way, but I do feel we need to take action. We need to rise up, together! Just doing nothing has allowed our country to be obliterated! You all are “trusting” in man, a man, not your God. I am a Trump supporter, but if you all claim to be Christian, then you should know not to follow any one man. For if you follow one man, or one organization, you are now simply following a cult!
It’s time to rise up!
Periodic re-evaluation is healthy.