New at PHX Sky Harbor Intl., it appeared as if they were actually training TSA on the new facial recognition system at airport security now, FYI they don't tell you its optional, they just quickly herd everyone through as if its mandatory.
I asked questions;
Me: What is this for?
TSA: ID
Me: isn’t that why I hand you my ID card?
Me: is this not optional?
TSA: You just have to ask for the camera to be turned off, do you want the camera off?
Me: yes, turn the camera off.
All you have to do is say turn the camera off, then they have to match you to your ID picture, just like they've always done. When they turned off the camera, it locked up the system and fouled the checkpoint station, I had to move to another station. DO NOT COMPLY! make them turn off the camera, and interrupt their bullshit operation. TSA procedures are all unconstitutional, Patriot Act is based on lies, DS killed a bunch of Americans on 911 to launch their “security”agenda. Safe travels Patriots.
You did this? You asked them to switch the face recognition camera off?
Wow, I love people like you!
I did, but it wasn’t really a bold action. I simply asked and they had to tell the truth. Its a very good example of the power of using your voice, and not just blindly accepting the abuse of your individual freedom just because the sheeple in line in front of you did. They tried to create the illusion that its mandatory, that you must do this in order to pass through security, Well its not mandatory, and we can keep it that way. I didn't take vid or pics, I didn't want the situation to escalate to the point of missing my flight and fouling my family’s vacation. Wife was already pissed that I challenged them; she’s a work in progress, but I can’t give up on her.
This bit is hard isn't it!
So hard! I appreciate that you recognize that.
This is the way!
All of this bullshit is why we quit flying. Oh and did I mention feeling like shit by the time you get to your destination? All over the way we are treated. Flying used to be nice in the US.
I have never flown, and I will never fly.
Name checks out! +10 for you
Always worth remembering that this only applies to commercial carriers. If you fly private or your own plane, there's effectively no restrictions or checkpoints. There are also many types of aircraft you don't even need a license to fly.
These resources belong to you as a natural citizen and never to the government as an entity. They're only permitted to manage it in a reasonable and non-discriminatory way. The carriers and airports all agreed to the restrictions.
My cousin owns a private jet and can fly from here to Europe nonstop without going through all the TSA crap. Actually, he owns the company that owns the plane, so celebrities pay to use it a lot. So in reality the plane costs him nothing.
Driving too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwaVO1sPFi8&ab_channel=HamptonCriminalDefenseAttorneysP.L.L.C.
Dang... maybe my next new car will have to be a mail-order kit car.
Why do we still have this security theatre?
Kill the Patriot Act.
End the Fed.
Just leave us the hell alone!
The Patriot Act ended at the end of 2020.
Why are we still being surveilled?
From Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patriot_Act
Huh. So, why do we even have the TSA and Homeland Security? Should those not go away?
Great info. Thx
Reason number 2051 why I do not travel by plane unless it is private and/or I am the one flying it. Fuck the government and all thier ID shit. When they start asking voters for ID to vote across the country, then they can ask me for my ID on everything else.
And no cancer inducing scanner. Opt out. If it wasn’t a health threat the TSA goons would have dosimeters to monitor cumulative microwave dosage. But they don’t.
If you or a loved one worked for TSA and contracted or died of cancer you may be eligible for...
When I used to fly every week the years leading up to covid I would screw with the TSA standing right outside of the scanners. I had the highest status you could get on the airline I flew, was pre-check, and global entry. I always opted out from the scanners, and the best part -- I would wear one of my old Nuclear Regulatory Commission polo shirts whenever I flew. I used to be an NRC Cyber Inspector.
While I was getting the pat-down I would talk to the TSA goon and tell them they were probably all going to get cancer standing so close to those machines. When they noticed my NRC shirt with the big government logo on it you could see the color run from their faces. That was my favorite part of traveling.
That is exactly what I did since I always had time as they most times delayed the secondary screening staff. Ask about the lack of dosimeters. Ask why X-ray techs wear lead smocks and tsa doesn’t. Put the doubt and fear into their heads. Was good sport.
skynniman is Patriot and proved it w balls o' steel
Full body scans are also optional. We always opt out. They're possed but have to accept it. They make us wait on the side for a patdown. Takes an extra 10 minutes. We avoid the radiation and piss them off. Priceless.
Public Service Announcement. If any of you vape, and also opt out of the scanners when you travel - take the extra time to go wash your hands and wipe down anything that may have any vape residue on it before you go get your pat-down.
I learned that lesson one trip when I had my vape juice spill on my hands, and of course I touched my laptop, luggage, and pretty much everything else they will look at (even my ID).
If you didn't know, vape juice includes vegetable glycerin. Know what else has glycerin in it? Nitro-glycerin. You know - the explosive. Their idiotic chemical system doesn't know the difference. I also found out a lot of black people use skin lotion due to dry skin and they trip the alarm during pat-downs as well if they recently used their lotion.
I didn't miss my flight (came close) but it took me 40 minutes to get out of the TSA back room area. They put me in a room while they tested everything I had. The one guy freaked out when he brought me one of my juice containers (homemade) and asked what it was, and I proceeded to drip some in my mouth. I pointed out I wouldn't do that if it was an explosive.
Good info!
I swear I'm never flying again. I much prefer driving and road trips.
Right there with you. I'll drive a 10-12 hour one-way drive in a heartbeat now. And as a bonus it is easier and more private when I bring my gun with me. No records of it moving through the airline security system.
Congratulations! You've won yourself a free ticket to the no fly list, a commodity to some of us here (nowadays anyways)
Domestic flight, phoenix to pittsburgh, pretty sure its brand new, looked like they were training with 3-4 flunkies at each station.
Look into Chertoff. Israel.
Last week flying out of LAX to Europe, I was surprised that there was a camera gate to board the plane, and I did not show my boarding pass or passport to board the plane.