RFK Jr. is a unifying ticket, Kari Lake is the cage match with the metal chair ticket.
Ben Carson would also be a good ticket. He is smart, calm and a good natured individual. He may not hype people in the same way that Kari Lake would though.
But think of the potential. Trump can hype people up, and Ben Carson can help them chill out and sleep!
If Kari is not the VP, she will be in the administration. Poor Ron stepped in the quicksand and Kari will learn the DC ropes and Dominate in '28. (I think I just unintentionally made her 2028 battle cry. Dominate in '28 has a ring to it )
I tend to analyze VP choices in terms of what PDJT needs his VP choice to do, both in the general election and then in DC.
In the general election, the big job is to be a tireless, compelling campaigner who is media adept and battle tested. Additionally, they need to do well in the VP debate.
No moar flies, please.
Imo, Karis history of being an Obama voter who's now on the Trump Train resonates with alot of voters in America; voters Trump needs. She's NOT a Republican politician which, imo, is a huuuge plus.
Scrappy outsiders versus insiders.
What kind of VP in DC will Trump need? Imo, the #1 need is someone one who gives him insurance against being JFKed. Some people thought Pence gave PDJT that protection. They were mistaken. However, Kari will.
He also would benefit from having someone fierce, loyal, willing to learn what he can teach them with media savvy. Someone who can be his ambassador at meet and greet events while he works,
We don't need RFK Jr. as a unifying person. Trump is already a unifier, the useful idiots just don't realize it. And there's no reason to make changes to satisfy the useful idiots.
I mean, he literally does need a running mate since you need a VP.
In this instance, who he chooses as VP could very well be the next succession after him, and getting their name in front of hundreds of millions of Americans would be huge.
Thanks. I think you might get me. Trump could run with a helium balloon as his VP and still win. (most politicians are full of gas anyway). BUT this will be a landslide and a new direction for the world. And maybe a very different structure going forward. Here is hoping.
Well the way I read it was that on a President/VP ticket with Trump on it, the only name that matters is Trump. No name on the VP side will change a single vote.
Definitely. First choice if the Arizona voter fraud doesn't get stopped. We win either way with Lake: either she is the Arizona governor, RIGHT ON THE BORDER, or she is Vice President.
I think the most likely outcome is that RFK jr will receive a lot of funding to run as a 3rd party candidate, in order to 'spoil' the Dem vote. I'm sure Bannon and Trump's team can arrange for there to be some large donations. It would almost certainly be enough to have Trump win decisively. You can bet they are at least strategizing this.
Sometimes I wonder what Q means by the end won't be for everyone. Back before 2020 I questioned whether he would even run for a second term. I thought maybe he'd be one and done, clean things up, arrest the deep state and then say, "Thanks but No Thanks. That sucked enough for one lifetime. You're welcome. Gotta go now."
I still sometimes wonder if he's going to bow out last minute and let someone less combative like RFK, Jr. take the helm while the public moves from denial to anger into accepting the fact that NOTHING they thought was true, was really true. I have over the past years had a hard time imagining Trump presiding over a take down of the deep state because I thought it would be too turbulent and would provoke more civil unrest than the Q team would want.
More recently, I am seeing a path where Trump could really peacefully preside over the take down. Many once "Orange Man Bad" people have told me they'd vote for him over Biden. There's still a "lessor of two evils" kind of sentiment. But I think that will continue to shift too. Then they'll pretend they never hated him prolly. But whatcha gonna do.
Kari Lake is awesome, but she doesn't bring neutrals and Dems on board. She solidifies the 'Ultra MAGA' vote, that's us. But the problem is, if you don't like Trump, you won't like Kari Lake. RFK jr has the potentional to bring on board leftists and neutrals.
I do understand, do you understand though? RFK jr only needs to take 1% of the vote to have Trump win all the swing states he 'lost' in 2020, assume they don't cheat by bigger margins. If his polling is around 20% of the Dem vote, and assuming most would vote for Biden if RFK jr were to go independent , we can still assume he'd be able to drag at least 1 or 2% with him if he runs as an independent. That is the play here.
Third party candidate just offer the opportunity for the criminals to steal more votes. RFK will pull from the conservative side as well. He may pull more from the conservative side because the leftists who vote dem are not going to vote for RFK.
A third party candidacy from RFK imo is a disaster for Trump.
A third party candidacy from RFK imo is a disaster for Trump.
respectfully, I disagree. Consider the hardcore base support. A significant % of Trump and Republican voters are 'ultra MAGA'. Biden doesn't have the same % of enthusiastic report. RFK jr running as an independent pulls WAY more votes from the left than it does from the right.
A third party candidacy pulls away independents that are voting Trump as the lesser of two evils. RFK gives them a noncommunist alternative to the lefitist criminals.
it also pulls away independents that are voting Biden as the lesser of two evils. The vast majority of his 'support' is just that, people that hate Trump and had to vote Biden. RFK jr gives them the alternative and pulls MORE away from Biden than it does Trump. You don't have to agree, wait and see, I'm fairly confident that is the play here.
You really think RFK will bring on board leftists?
Even with the massive vote changing in 2020, Trump still showed over 70 million votes. More than any candidate had ever received by quite a lot. The true count was probably close to, if not over, 100 million. Registered Republicans will almost exclusively vote Trump, Independents already heavily lean that way. RFK does nothing for the ticket.
Not "leftists". I think one has to draw a distinction between Leftists and Democrats. Yes, the Democrat party has been infiltrated and controlled by Marxists, aka Leftists, but folks like RFK jr, etc, are not leftists. Many who are traditionally supportive of the Democrats of Kennedy are not, I suspect, 'leftists'.
Leftists would swing away from RJK, as we saw during his testimony to congress. Leftists are indoctrinated Marxists and Neo-Marxistfs who hate anything that goes against the Marxist agenda.
Leftists would swing away from RJK, as we saw during his testimony to congress. Leftists are indoctrinated Marxists and Neo-Marxistfs who hate anything that goes against the Marxist agenda.
That is the entirety of the party these days.There are very few 'blue dog' Dems left and most of those will still vote party over their own best interests because thats what theyve always done. Thats what their parents and grandparents did. They cant think politically outside the 'us vs. them' box.
So RFK may pick up some support in primaries but when the DNC inevitably tosses him out with the trash, these 'blue dog' dems will vote with the party. Putting him on a ticket with Trump wouldnt change that in numbers that matter.
Traditional election politics and strategy is meaningless anymore. Trump already has the votes he needs to win. I know it, you know it, the pedos know it. There isnt a candidate that can defeat him honestly. Not even Big Mike, though I am sure thats the DNCs eventual play if they cant keep Trump off the ballot.
The choice of VP should be made purely with an eye to a successor because it doesnt matter in terms of vote count who he chooses. There isnt some super ticket out there that will do anything more to defeat the cheat than a Trump/insertnamehere ticket.
The nations hopes rest on continuing to shine the light on the criminal depravity of the pedo death cult and the connections to their puppets, by this light to persuade the last few persuadable to vote Trump or sit out and to keep them from setting off civil war when the dems lose and arrests begin and a 2016 style op to disrupt the theft they plan + the easily discernible but cloaked in media darkness and blackpiller rhetoric, election integrity moves that are being made.
Thats the plan and they are sticking to it. And it is working brilliantly so far.
Thanks. FWIW, I'm not making an argument for RFK on DJT's ticket, or anything to do with the VP thing. I'm merely saying that I think it's relevant to not label all Democrat-aligned persons "leftists".
From what I hear from others, I think that's relevant. That is all.
From my experience, political labels typically divide and deceive rather than inform.
Consequently, I prefer President Trumps attitude. He often says that he doesn't really think of himself as a conservative or a republican.
Instead he thinks of himself as just a common sense person who loves America and the American people; a person who wants to Save America then make it greater than ever before, with our help.
I don't believe he chose Pence as his running mate. The establishment Republicans were dead set against allowing Trump to be the nominee, and they force Pence on him, or he wasn't going to be the nominee.
Up until Jan. 2021, I thought Pence was a good guy. He seemed to be loyal to Trump and America, but it was all for naught. What a disappointment.
Respectfully Purkiss, it sounds more like he thinks its so absurd that even though many have suggested it, he hasnt even considered it. And wont.
Listen I like RFK as far as leftists who want to limit the 2nd amendment, think Russia is in the wrong and believe any part of the climate lies, goes. I believe if he isnt outright coordinating with Patriots hes sees the security state for what it is and wishes to dismantle it. He may even have a role in the administration, perhaps dismantling the C_A and FBI, reorganizing the DoJ or something similar. He could head a task force into vaccine thuggery and covid.
But he wont be VP and he shouldnt be VP. At this point in time we need a successor for Trump and it will only come from the VPs office. RFK isnt Trumps successor, Kari Lake is. There isnt another person whose full throated MAGA compares so closely to Trump and she needs time in the second chair before she takes over the first.
Personally I dont want any progessive that close to the Presidency. Their policies for the last 150 years are those of failure. Time the entire party was relegated to the dustbin of history with the whigs. And thier policies with them.
Eh, said it before.
RFK Jr. is a unifying ticket, Kari Lake is the cage match with the metal chair ticket.
Ben Carson would also be a good ticket. He is smart, calm and a good natured individual. He may not hype people in the same way that Kari Lake would though.
But think of the potential. Trump can hype people up, and Ben Carson can help them chill out and sleep!
If Kari is not the VP, she will be in the administration. Poor Ron stepped in the quicksand and Kari will learn the DC ropes and Dominate in '28. (I think I just unintentionally made her 2028 battle cry. Dominate in '28 has a ring to it )
I tend to analyze VP choices in terms of what PDJT needs his VP choice to do, both in the general election and then in DC.
In the general election, the big job is to be a tireless, compelling campaigner who is media adept and battle tested. Additionally, they need to do well in the VP debate.
No moar flies, please.
Imo, Karis history of being an Obama voter who's now on the Trump Train resonates with alot of voters in America; voters Trump needs. She's NOT a Republican politician which, imo, is a huuuge plus.
Scrappy outsiders versus insiders.
What kind of VP in DC will Trump need? Imo, the #1 need is someone one who gives him insurance against being JFKed. Some people thought Pence gave PDJT that protection. They were mistaken. However, Kari will.
He also would benefit from having someone fierce, loyal, willing to learn what he can teach them with media savvy. Someone who can be his ambassador at meet and greet events while he works,
Kari actually voted for Obama? I didn't hear that. Anyone who voted for Obama is dumb, period.
Ben Carson could probably prescribe something for serious cases of TDS, and in the case of irreversible DTS, perform surgery!
Honestly he'd probably soothe a lot of outrage just with his temperament.
We don't need RFK Jr. as a unifying person. Trump is already a unifier, the useful idiots just don't realize it. And there's no reason to make changes to satisfy the useful idiots.
TRUMP does not NEED a running mate to win. But for succession Kari is the BEST
I mean, he literally does need a running mate since you need a VP.
In this instance, who he chooses as VP could very well be the next succession after him, and getting their name in front of hundreds of millions of Americans would be huge.
This is the correct line of thinking.
Thanks. I think you might get me. Trump could run with a helium balloon as his VP and still win. (most politicians are full of gas anyway). BUT this will be a landslide and a new direction for the world. And maybe a very different structure going forward. Here is hoping.
Well the way I read it was that on a President/VP ticket with Trump on it, the only name that matters is Trump. No name on the VP side will change a single vote.
If thats what ya meant ya I get it.
Well... how do you fill a Ballon? You blow it. That must have been Joe's line of thinking with his choice.
Kari Lake would be perfect if they don't let her become Governor.
Definitely. First choice if the Arizona voter fraud doesn't get stopped. We win either way with Lake: either she is the Arizona governor, RIGHT ON THE BORDER, or she is Vice President.
Trumps put the Deep State schemers in an amusing lose/lose situation.
Do they let Karis lawsuits succeed so she becomes Arizonas Governor or risk having her be Trumps VP in DC?
Kek.
I think the most likely outcome is that RFK jr will receive a lot of funding to run as a 3rd party candidate, in order to 'spoil' the Dem vote. I'm sure Bannon and Trump's team can arrange for there to be some large donations. It would almost certainly be enough to have Trump win decisively. You can bet they are at least strategizing this.
Sometimes I wonder what Q means by the end won't be for everyone. Back before 2020 I questioned whether he would even run for a second term. I thought maybe he'd be one and done, clean things up, arrest the deep state and then say, "Thanks but No Thanks. That sucked enough for one lifetime. You're welcome. Gotta go now."
I still sometimes wonder if he's going to bow out last minute and let someone less combative like RFK, Jr. take the helm while the public moves from denial to anger into accepting the fact that NOTHING they thought was true, was really true. I have over the past years had a hard time imagining Trump presiding over a take down of the deep state because I thought it would be too turbulent and would provoke more civil unrest than the Q team would want.
More recently, I am seeing a path where Trump could really peacefully preside over the take down. Many once "Orange Man Bad" people have told me they'd vote for him over Biden. There's still a "lessor of two evils" kind of sentiment. But I think that will continue to shift too. Then they'll pretend they never hated him prolly. But whatcha gonna do.
😍😍😍
That's what I'm seeing too.
Imo, ONLY Trump can do what needs to be done, with our help.
WWG1WGA
Kari Lake is awesome, but she doesn't bring neutrals and Dems on board. She solidifies the 'Ultra MAGA' vote, that's us. But the problem is, if you don't like Trump, you won't like Kari Lake. RFK jr has the potentional to bring on board leftists and neutrals.
I do understand, do you understand though? RFK jr only needs to take 1% of the vote to have Trump win all the swing states he 'lost' in 2020, assume they don't cheat by bigger margins. If his polling is around 20% of the Dem vote, and assuming most would vote for Biden if RFK jr were to go independent , we can still assume he'd be able to drag at least 1 or 2% with him if he runs as an independent. That is the play here.
Third party candidate just offer the opportunity for the criminals to steal more votes. RFK will pull from the conservative side as well. He may pull more from the conservative side because the leftists who vote dem are not going to vote for RFK.
A third party candidacy from RFK imo is a disaster for Trump.
respectfully, I disagree. Consider the hardcore base support. A significant % of Trump and Republican voters are 'ultra MAGA'. Biden doesn't have the same % of enthusiastic report. RFK jr running as an independent pulls WAY more votes from the left than it does from the right.
A third party candidacy pulls away independents that are voting Trump as the lesser of two evils. RFK gives them a noncommunist alternative to the lefitist criminals.
it also pulls away independents that are voting Biden as the lesser of two evils. The vast majority of his 'support' is just that, people that hate Trump and had to vote Biden. RFK jr gives them the alternative and pulls MORE away from Biden than it does Trump. You don't have to agree, wait and see, I'm fairly confident that is the play here.
But aren't we talking about VP, not third party candidate?
yes, but I am saying realistically, that probably won't happen, and it is more likely Trumps team will help to push RFK jr as an independent
You really think RFK will bring on board leftists?
Even with the massive vote changing in 2020, Trump still showed over 70 million votes. More than any candidate had ever received by quite a lot. The true count was probably close to, if not over, 100 million. Registered Republicans will almost exclusively vote Trump, Independents already heavily lean that way. RFK does nothing for the ticket.
Not "leftists". I think one has to draw a distinction between Leftists and Democrats. Yes, the Democrat party has been infiltrated and controlled by Marxists, aka Leftists, but folks like RFK jr, etc, are not leftists. Many who are traditionally supportive of the Democrats of Kennedy are not, I suspect, 'leftists'.
Leftists would swing away from RJK, as we saw during his testimony to congress. Leftists are indoctrinated Marxists and Neo-Marxistfs who hate anything that goes against the Marxist agenda.
That is the entirety of the party these days.There are very few 'blue dog' Dems left and most of those will still vote party over their own best interests because thats what theyve always done. Thats what their parents and grandparents did. They cant think politically outside the 'us vs. them' box.
So RFK may pick up some support in primaries but when the DNC inevitably tosses him out with the trash, these 'blue dog' dems will vote with the party. Putting him on a ticket with Trump wouldnt change that in numbers that matter.
Traditional election politics and strategy is meaningless anymore. Trump already has the votes he needs to win. I know it, you know it, the pedos know it. There isnt a candidate that can defeat him honestly. Not even Big Mike, though I am sure thats the DNCs eventual play if they cant keep Trump off the ballot.
The choice of VP should be made purely with an eye to a successor because it doesnt matter in terms of vote count who he chooses. There isnt some super ticket out there that will do anything more to defeat the cheat than a Trump/insertnamehere ticket.
The nations hopes rest on continuing to shine the light on the criminal depravity of the pedo death cult and the connections to their puppets, by this light to persuade the last few persuadable to vote Trump or sit out and to keep them from setting off civil war when the dems lose and arrests begin and a 2016 style op to disrupt the theft they plan + the easily discernible but cloaked in media darkness and blackpiller rhetoric, election integrity moves that are being made.
Thats the plan and they are sticking to it. And it is working brilliantly so far.
Thanks. FWIW, I'm not making an argument for RFK on DJT's ticket, or anything to do with the VP thing. I'm merely saying that I think it's relevant to not label all Democrat-aligned persons "leftists".
From what I hear from others, I think that's relevant. That is all.
Thats cool. My thoughts are that there are no longer many dems left that arent leftists.
From my experience, political labels typically divide and deceive rather than inform.
Consequently, I prefer President Trumps attitude. He often says that he doesn't really think of himself as a conservative or a republican.
Instead he thinks of himself as just a common sense person who loves America and the American people; a person who wants to Save America then make it greater than ever before, with our help.
Our == anyone willing to help.
He could bring on independents though.
Imo, President Trump will bring in the RFK Jr voters and liberals. Kari Lake can bring in persuadable normie democrats, independents and apoliticals.
I don't believe he chose Pence as his running mate. The establishment Republicans were dead set against allowing Trump to be the nominee, and they force Pence on him, or he wasn't going to be the nominee.
Up until Jan. 2021, I thought Pence was a good guy. He seemed to be loyal to Trump and America, but it was all for naught. What a disappointment.
RFK Jr said no way…
Respectfully Purkiss, it sounds more like he thinks its so absurd that even though many have suggested it, he hasnt even considered it. And wont.
Listen I like RFK as far as leftists who want to limit the 2nd amendment, think Russia is in the wrong and believe any part of the climate lies, goes. I believe if he isnt outright coordinating with Patriots hes sees the security state for what it is and wishes to dismantle it. He may even have a role in the administration, perhaps dismantling the C_A and FBI, reorganizing the DoJ or something similar. He could head a task force into vaccine thuggery and covid.
But he wont be VP and he shouldnt be VP. At this point in time we need a successor for Trump and it will only come from the VPs office. RFK isnt Trumps successor, Kari Lake is. There isnt another person whose full throated MAGA compares so closely to Trump and she needs time in the second chair before she takes over the first.
Personally I dont want any progessive that close to the Presidency. Their policies for the last 150 years are those of failure. Time the entire party was relegated to the dustbin of history with the whigs. And thier policies with them.
I agree wholeheartedly with this...
He’s good for a lot of things, but he’s a climate cultist and gun grabber. No thanks.
"Well intentioned" = No, not a chance.
When does he have to announce his running mate by?
A well-intentioned snake is still a snake.
I've been saying it for a long time: https://greatawakening.win/p/16b5lULSJK/rfk-jr--jfk-jr-trump/