Foreign IT Company Gobbles Up Top US Ammunition Manufacturers - Remington, Federal, CCI and Others Sold Off
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Furthermore, foreign ownership of U.S. ammunition manufacturing reminds us of some jarring realities.
For instance, free speech means nothing if Americans have no forum in which to speak freely. With this in mind, imagine the present state of the First Amendment had Elon Musk not purchased Twitter. To what extent do our most fundamental freedoms depend on the actions of a single billionaire?
The analogy is imperfect, of course, but the question it raises is similar. Can we allow the practical exercise of our Second Amendment rights to depend on a Czech billionaire?
The answer to that is emphatically Hell No!!!
I feel the same way.
Absolutely not! This is asinine and truly a threat to national security. This can not be allowed to stand.
Not happy with that DS BS move either.
Now would be a good time to get into handloading.
Amen, Hunt with bows and save ammo for self defense.
Same place it is now, heavy censorship on every corner of the internet.
That was clear when he chose a WEF Puppet as CEO.
CCI is a primer company...GOOD THING I BOUGHT PRIMERS WHEN THEY WERE EL CHEAPO!!!
So did I, but primers are still a finite resource. Evenutally, we'll all need new ones.
More specifically, a consumable resource. And that which is consumed generally needs replenishment at some point.
This is pretty disconcerting, just more foreign ownership of U.S. stuff.
So now Biden could place a embargo on Czech due to some fabricated national emergency and stop all imports of ammunition. I can see it coming now.
Exactly. This reminds me of Obummer trying to keep us from buying ammo.
Or, this IT company just chooses not to continue these companies and dissolves them.
If they will crank up production, drive the prices down, and flood America with tons and tons of ammo, I'm fine with that.
I would be ok with that also. But they could at any time stop shipping to us.
Czech company. Not necessarily very alarming from a political standpoint. Frankly quality standards might actually be raised. The Czechs maintain a quality weapons industry
But still it raises valid points. How many American Companies are now held by foreign interests. Or even Domestic interests that are hostile to long term American interests
They make good ammo. The problem is it can come back to bite us.
YEP...and these companies were offered a price that they could NOT be resisted...NOW, who is funding this company???? Answer that question and we be good!!!!!!
Exactly and we definitely need answers.
another question is, can it actually physically come back into the USA? will our own government sanction them from shipping ammo to us???
AND THAT SIR is the MILLION DOLLAR QUESTION!!!!
We all be thinkin' about this...3 companies bought out by same company...something smells fishy in Denmark!!!
All great questions we have no answer to.
Is it correct to assume that all manufacturing will move to Czech now?
I knew I would come to regret selling off my reloading gear, but I just didn't have the room for it and it was all getting pretty old.
Looks like "another argument" In my plea to move farther out away from population. But now is not a good time to be buying\financing property.
This reminds me of Obummer trying to cut off the ammo.
And what if this Czech company decide to just close up shop here in the US, then where will we get ammo from? Could be a way for the DS to control stealing our right to defend ourselves. We won't give up our guns, but it they shut down production of ammo we need for our guns, they still get what they want... us unarmed.
There is a tfbtv episode with the ceo of CZ we are by far the largest consumer of firearms and ammo in the world. It would be suicide to stop selling to us.
It would be suicide to get a tranny to sell Bud Light too. I wonder who the main stockholder is? If it’s BlackRock, exc. we could be in trouble. Could be to sell to government’s anticipating WW3. Not positive news given world events.
Wonder if my ex still has all that reloading equipment? Get some if you can.
People better stock up.
Lake City (Utah) is largest ammo plant in plant in USA. Military ammo (a large %) is made there. Ammo companies contract to run the facility, it is kind of a strange arrangrment. Currently I believe it is operated by Winchester. Excess or seconds are sold to the public. Sig Sauer also has a fairly large ammo plant in Arkansas. Ammo might get scarce for a while if the companies that got bought close up, but I dont think supplies would go away. As always, dont believe a random guy on the internet - stock up while you can, and if you can swing it reload at home.
Thank you for the information. I am familiar with Lake City ammo. Always best to have and not need then to need and not have.
Breaking: bill gates buys majority share of Czech IT firm.......just kidding of course.
Would not surprise me if he made a attempt to,
Why are foreigners allowed to buy our land, buildings, ports, and manufacturing? Do other countries allow that (if it isn't forced on them)?
For nefarious reasons from what we have found. Not sure about other Countries.
This should be considered national security, should not be allowed.
Great point and I agree.
Aren't a lot of these .mil suppliers?
Seems that should be a problem. Maybe with the plants in the US that sidesteps.
Big fan of CCI, especially in 22lr. Have quite a few bricks stashed should we ever need for small game and critter control. Don't think I've ever had a FTE, FTF or FTL with CCI.
I believe they are. But this was something Obummer wanted to push with no more ammo.
We'll know how problematic this is if their largest customer turns out to be the IRS.
Remember when Obummer who hates guns bought all that ammunition.
Did just a bit of looking into this. The Czech company involved is an Industrial Tech company with fingers in defense categories, it is not an Information Technology company.
Vista Outdoors was a spin-off company that had acquired several iconic brands as a sporting company. It was originally a part of Alliant Tech Systems which is most widely known for the reloading powders Alliant brand, but involved far more than this with Defense contracts for producing a number of powders for artillery type weapons and technical products for missiles and other Defense related products. When Alliant spun off their tech based support from the outdoor sporting aspects, it created Vista Outdoors. They had acquired Speer/CCI when the previous owners Blount Inc sold off their outdoor products line and concentrated on machinery. Throughout all of this, the businesses continued to manufacture their iconic lines. Vista Outdoors expanded by taking opportunities to buy the Remington brand of ammo when that company declared bankruptcy after the the Bushmaster fiasco following Sandy Hook. the investment Company that owned the rights to the Remington name sold off different portions of the iconic business to different other companies that wanted the portions of the company that competed in their fields. This is why Remington brand firearms are still being manufactured and sold. Not all the previous lines, but the most profitable and well known.
What all of this means is up for debate. Whether there is a conspiracy to regulate these products from the American people or not is unknown. When we look at some other brands that were bought out, Colt comes to mind. They were bought out by CZ because the owners of Colt didn't evolve well or compete in the modern era. The end result is that Colt has been releasing iconic firearms from their famous past including their renowned revolvers from the original to the snake series (Python, Anaconda, King Cobra and Single Action Army) where some had been discontinued for decades. These are now available to purchase once again. Seems to me that CZ buying Colt wasn't a bad thing. Can we hope that CCI/Speer, Remington ammo and others continue their lineage? I certainly do. The CCI brand is by far my favorite rimfire brand and I would hate to see it lost. I guess the greater question is how ingrained are the Globalists in Czech companies?
Thank you for the deep dive and information. I remember when Soros got involved in Remington and they bought Marlin. The quality of Marlins went down were people were asking if you had a Marlin or a Remlin. Remington stated they would build the 444 Marlin again and they never have. Good luck with ammo.
The quality may improve and prices may go down. But like President Trump pointed out we need to manufacture here in our Country and not dependent on China. This concerns me as at any time they can stop supplies.
I believe the manufacturing is still here in this country with the same workers, but more modern equipment and a different approach to business. I will have to see where manufacturing is done, but I am fairly sure they are still making everything here.
For now. Remember we had manufacturing plants that closed shop and moved to China in the past.