The Quran does not state that Jesus is God, in fact it calls Jesus a great prophet. Islam does not consider Jesus to be the son of God, nor do they claim that he is God. It is an interesting analysis of the text. I do not read arabic and am always concerned about translations having errors in translation. I have had this particular conversation with a number of Muslims and they have always asserted the above. Not one deviated toward this translation, so this is definitely a new one to me.
He's confusing things. The definition of spirit here is being butchered. The concept that Jesus dwells as a separate entity to the Creator negates him as being the Creator Himself.
Let's clear some things up here with quotes, and get the mind racing with some questions!
"'Allah' is a pre-Islamic name...corresponding to the Babylonian Bel according to the Encyclopedia of Religion" ...Allah. He was the moon god, who married the sun goddess. "Together they produced three goddesses who were called 'the daughters of Allah.' These three goddesses were called Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat."
Islam Unveiled: The True Desert Storm pg 36, 48-49 Robert A. Morey
In Tyre, Baal was the sun, and Ashtaroth, the moon. Baal-peor, the lord of priapism, was the sun represented as the generative principle of nature, and identical with the phallus of other religions.
Encyclopedia of Freemasonry pg 144
Nothing more than satanic pagan moon/sun worship under a different name. What symbols do the islamic religion use? Who are isis and osiris? What do they represent? What is the catholic host shaped as? What is the receptacle shaped as? What is the meaning of inserting the "sun" into the "moon"?
Mary is mentioned in the video, and is also mentioned as the "star of the sea" in catholicism too. Who else is called the star of the sea? Poseidon? Who is poseidon another form of? Is Mary retooled by these "people" and turned into isis?
There will come a day, when the heart of islam - already attuned to the figures of Christ and of Christ's mother, Mary -- will receive the illumation it needs ... a second fatima ... in which they will recognize [the pope] as God's vicar on earth ... Then with fellow travelers like the Church of England, the Episcopal Church, and others of like mind, the pope could be worshiped as the infallible holy father by over one-half of the world's population. The Prophetic Observer, 1995, pg1, as stated by Malachi Martin
Which group did Malachi Martin belong to? Privately? Publicly? Why specifically use the word "illumination"? Who is the "luminous one"? Islam refers to the "immaculate conception and virgin birth" of Mary. What other religion(s) do exactly the same?
The Qur'-aan says:
But they killed him not, nor crucified him, but it was made to appear to them...for a surety they killed him not
Ayah an-Nisa` (Women) 4:157
What other religion(s) deny the sacrifice of Christ? What is the catholic mass actually doing? What is their actual view on the eucharist? Is there any basis in scripture for transubstantiation? For consubstantiation?
Either the Bible is chosen, or it isn't. There is no compromise:
Jesus Christ is Salvation.
And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself;
by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
And you, that were sometime alienated and enemies in your mind by wicked works, yet now hath he reconciled
In the body of his flesh through death, to present you holy and unblameable and unreproveable in his sight:
Colossians 1:20-22
His death as the fulfilment of justice, faith of Jesus as the fulfilment of grace, and only through that can there be atonement.
Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness
for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;
To declare, I say, at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him
which believeth in Jesus.
Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Romans 3:25-27
Propitiation means the turning away of wrath by an offering; satisfying the wrath of God by the atoning sacrifice of Christ. The wrath is what His justice demands, the death of the transgressor, the death of the offending party. In atonement, justice and grace could not co-exist before, but at the cross they marry each other. Without this, without faith, as inheritors of the fallen nature of Adam, we are all dead in transgression.
Jesus Christ is God.
And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit,
seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory.
1 Timothy 3:16
For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder:
and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Isaiah 9:6
Thomas saith unto him, Lord, we know not whither thou goest; and how can we know the way?
Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
If ye had known me, ye should have known my Father also: and from henceforth ye know him, and have seen him.
John 14:5-7
Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak
not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.
Believe me that I am in the Father, and the Father in me: or else believe me for the very works' sake.
John 14:10-11
Jesus Christ is Creator.
Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things,
by whom also he made the worlds;
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his
power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:
Hebrews 1:2-3
And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been
hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Ephesians 3:9
This is what the core of the great awakening is about. Arming yourself with the armor of God is to be armed with the spear of His Word, the shield of His Faith; you do battle with your tongue, and His word will cut like a double-edged sword, splitting the darkness in this world in twain for all to be exposed.
Beware lest any man spoil you through philosophy and vain deceit, after the tradition of men,
after the rudiments of the world, and not after Christ.
For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.
And ye are complete in him, which is the head of all principality and power:
In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the
body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God,
who hath raised him from the dead.
Colossians 2:8-12
This man's name is Sam Shamoun, I'm currently going through his videos on Youtube.
He's a great apologist with an amazing knowledge of the Bible, quran and talmud. This fellow is a must watch to strengthen your faith and reasons to believe.
So do mormons in their book.. most lies will take a part of the truth in order to beguile a victim and then twist the truth so that most people are fully fooled. Demons know He's God and look at how they let themselves go..
The Book of Mormon is an amazing and faith promoting work of fiction that was presented as an ancient record so Joseph Smith would have credible deniability to expose the Masonic cabal he once belonged to until he learned they worshipped Satan. They killed him anyway.
Joseph Smith lied about where the book came from but I believe his goal was the same as Trump’s and Q’s.
Things are never what they seem at first glance. If you can read the Book of Mormon and not come to love Christ even more, you’re not being honest with yourself. As an exmormon English graduate from BYU, I encourage all fiction lovers who love America and love Jesus to read it through that lens and you won’t be disappointed.
Sure, by a parallel, I really love and enjoy the work of Urantia, even though I consider it fiction. There seems to be many underlying truths encrypted in it, which leads to asking deeper spiritual questions.
I keep tellin yall, a little investigation reveals many divisions to be illusory...
Ants in a jar is all we are.
The argument is: Jesus the Messiah was a spirit from Allah, cast down into Mary. indeed he was a spirit before he became a man.
u/Sadness: provides a concise summary of the video's main point
some loser with a room temperature IQ: angry downvoting noises
I mean I literally wrote it as I was watching the vid. It is not verbatim, but it is what the man said.
The Quran does not state that Jesus is God, in fact it calls Jesus a great prophet. Islam does not consider Jesus to be the son of God, nor do they claim that he is God. It is an interesting analysis of the text. I do not read arabic and am always concerned about translations having errors in translation. I have had this particular conversation with a number of Muslims and they have always asserted the above. Not one deviated toward this translation, so this is definitely a new one to me.
He's confusing things. The definition of spirit here is being butchered. The concept that Jesus dwells as a separate entity to the Creator negates him as being the Creator Himself.
Guard your faith from these things.
Yes, this is why it’s easier to witness to a Muslim that it is to a Jew.
Let's clear some things up here with quotes, and get the mind racing with some questions!
Nothing more than satanic pagan moon/sun worship under a different name. What symbols do the islamic religion use? Who are isis and osiris? What do they represent? What is the catholic host shaped as? What is the receptacle shaped as? What is the meaning of inserting the "sun" into the "moon"?
Mary is mentioned in the video, and is also mentioned as the "star of the sea" in catholicism too. Who else is called the star of the sea? Poseidon? Who is poseidon another form of? Is Mary retooled by these "people" and turned into isis?
Which group did Malachi Martin belong to? Privately? Publicly? Why specifically use the word "illumination"? Who is the "luminous one"? Islam refers to the "immaculate conception and virgin birth" of Mary. What other religion(s) do exactly the same?
The Qur'-aan says:
What other religion(s) deny the sacrifice of Christ? What is the catholic mass actually doing? What is their actual view on the eucharist? Is there any basis in scripture for transubstantiation? For consubstantiation?
Either the Bible is chosen, or it isn't. There is no compromise:
Jesus Christ is Salvation.
His death as the fulfilment of justice, faith of Jesus as the fulfilment of grace, and only through that can there be atonement.
Propitiation means the turning away of wrath by an offering; satisfying the wrath of God by the atoning sacrifice of Christ. The wrath is what His justice demands, the death of the transgressor, the death of the offending party. In atonement, justice and grace could not co-exist before, but at the cross they marry each other. Without this, without faith, as inheritors of the fallen nature of Adam, we are all dead in transgression.
Jesus Christ is God.
Jesus Christ is Creator.
This is what the core of the great awakening is about. Arming yourself with the armor of God is to be armed with the spear of His Word, the shield of His Faith; you do battle with your tongue, and His word will cut like a double-edged sword, splitting the darkness in this world in twain for all to be exposed.
This man's name is Sam Shamoun, I'm currently going through his videos on Youtube.
He's a great apologist with an amazing knowledge of the Bible, quran and talmud. This fellow is a must watch to strengthen your faith and reasons to believe.
This is the YT channel I find him https://www.youtube.com/@thearchive6671
Thanks for finding this channel. Will look into him further
So do mormons in their book.. most lies will take a part of the truth in order to beguile a victim and then twist the truth so that most people are fully fooled. Demons know He's God and look at how they let themselves go..
The Book of Mormon is an amazing and faith promoting work of fiction that was presented as an ancient record so Joseph Smith would have credible deniability to expose the Masonic cabal he once belonged to until he learned they worshipped Satan. They killed him anyway.
Joseph Smith lied about where the book came from but I believe his goal was the same as Trump’s and Q’s.
Things are never what they seem at first glance. If you can read the Book of Mormon and not come to love Christ even more, you’re not being honest with yourself. As an exmormon English graduate from BYU, I encourage all fiction lovers who love America and love Jesus to read it through that lens and you won’t be disappointed.
Sure, by a parallel, I really love and enjoy the work of Urantia, even though I consider it fiction. There seems to be many underlying truths encrypted in it, which leads to asking deeper spiritual questions.
Who is he talking to?
the quran is kinder to Jesus than the Jewish religion but Muslims still only consider him a prophet. and not as big of a deal as Mohammed.
No.
Based AF. Moor of this we will see.
Yes it does.