All true no doubt, but I want to see the results of people that have successfully won out with their claims of being a Sovereign entity unbound by equity contracts. I want to learn of the fate of anyone that quit paying their income tax because of the evidence that it only applies to federal workers.
Kent Hovind was one of those guys who went around preaching you dont have to pay taxes, legally. probably everything he said was true but he still went to jail for tax evasion. the IRS doesnt care about the law
He bound himself in the court when he verified the legal name to them. Trying to have his cake and eat it.
The courts are legal name Guardians. Once you accept the legal name on the birth certificate that is the person (per sound) in court, you are thereby bounty to their jurisdiction.
The D.C. corporation needs the man/woman to accept in being a legal strawman/name that they are not. So when they verbally agree with the court at the beginning on being said dead paper-fuction, they have them in their jurisdiction through commerce code.
Pete at losthorizons.com has been teaching and doing this for a very long time. He has had issues, yes, but last I saw remains a free man. I'm not saying to follow him. I'm way too chicken myself.
I'll tell you the secret. Or at least what has worked for me and others.
There is nothing in the law that says you have to report anything to the IRS. They are technically a foreign entity (District of Columbia).
Most people prepay their taxes by having it withheld from their paycheck. There is nothing in the law that says it has to be done this way. You can tell your HR department that you wish to handle your taxes on your own and to not withhold from your check. They might look at you sideways but it's your right.
Where people get into hot water is when they continue to report their income and decide not to pay what they "owe".
The moment you submit that filing is the moment you become liable. If you lie about how much you made in order to pay less taxes, you are liable, because you contracted with them and did so dishonestly. If you try to argue with what they calculated based on what you reported, then you are being belligerent and a court may hold you in contempt.
I've never heard of a case where someone got their door busted down for not reporting their income.
I really wish people would understand this because if we all just demanded an end to tax withholding, the government's funds would immediately dry up. They wouldn't make it to next week, let alone next year.
Right. A concerted effort based on something as simple as protesting everything being sent to places like Ukraine and Isreal would be all it would take.
How do you not report? As 1099 everyone that writes me a check surely reports it. And all the IRS has to do is ask a bank to see my account. If I file once, have I forever waived my 5th amendment?
I was talking about tax withholding as a W-2 employee. It's different for 1099.
As 1099 there is no tax withholding, but you are expected to report according to what type of entity the payment is going to. I'm not sure if it's different for LLCs vs sole proprietors, but if you pay employees, there is a payroll tax, which is a liability for the employer. My understanding is that the payroll tax is what gets split between the employee and employer and withheld as "income tax". It's not a law, it's just employers spreading out the loss by making employees share the burden.
The only reason that is done (in my opinion) is so that when people go to file their tax report, they are asking for their money back because they overpaid. So instead of the "tax bill" being a literal bill that you have to pay, you are incentivized to file in order to get a refund. If you prepay through withholdings all year and then don't file, no problem, the government is happy to keep your money.
But why give the government an interest-free loan?
How do you not report? As 1099 everyone that writes me a check surely reports it.
I'm not a CPA so I don't want to say anything inaccurate, but what does it matter if your checks get reported? The liability doesn't exist until you file and report your full accounting to determine profits and losses. As an LLC I don't know if there are reporting requirements, there might be. I only know as a W-2 employee you can exercise your right to collect your entire check with no withholding. Whether you report it is up to you.
If I file once, have I forever waived my 5th amendment?
But if one works a full time job for an employer, doesn't that employer report your earnings to the IRS? And then when you get you W2, are you not bound to report earnings via that W2?
But if one works a full time job for an employer, doesn't that employer report your earnings to the IRS?
Yes, but so what? They report what they paid you, but that doesn't make you liable for anything. You can go ahead and file a report, but what I'm trying to say is that you can exercise your right to not have your taxes withheld upfront. The only reason that is done (in my opinion) is so that when people go to file their tax report, they are asking for their money back because they overpaid. So instead of the "tax bill" being a literal bill that comes out of your pocket, you are incentivized to file in order to get a refund. If you prepay through withholdings all year and then don't file, no problem, the government is happy to keep your money.
And then when you get you W2, are you not bound to report earnings via that W2?
Without getting too deep in the weeds, I'll just say it all stems from the use of the SSN, claiming to be a "US Citizen" which is a fiction that "lives in" DC, and claiming to be a US Citizen legally puts you in the District of Columbia and makes you a subject. So that's part of it, and to correct your status involves several steps like converting your passport to a state national so that you are officially on record as NOT being a US Citizen (as defined in case law) and not residing in the District of Columbia. Then you can correct your contracts with your employer to reflect that you are non-citizen national and being paid as a foreign entity (foreign to DC).
That's the jist of it but I know it's a lot to wrap your head around. They don't make it easy, for sure, but I have done everything above so I can confirm it is a real thing.
Yes, this is all very complicated. I am learning that much of our system is illegal, and that complexity is designed such that people cannot easily fight the system.
But all that being said, I still want to see someone who armed with this knowledge, has prevailed over that system.
The law is what the guy with the power says it is.
Sad. Most people do not know this but prior to 1913 (IRS/FEDEDERAL RESERVE) Americans didn't pay an income tax. They brought home what they were paid. Our government (state/Fed) functioned on import/export tariffs paid by foreign corporations/countries trading with the U.S.and vice-versa.
1913 was a terrible year for the U.S. and even though Potatobrain Biden is trying to earn the title of Worst in Whitehouse, Woodrow Wilson still holds that title.
Yes. Also one would need to look at congressional records on ratifications of amendments for 1912-13 timeline. -Also too, a research of the State legislation records that held votes to recognize the 16th amendment would be the final authority. If I recall correctly, 2/3s of the States are required by law to proclaim an amendment bill to be added to the Constitution.
-Extra points for those who dig into Jekyl Island, Georgia in 1913 (ironically as the 16th Amendment was being pushed) and understand the inner workings of who, how, why and when(s) the Articles of the Federal Reserve Act were drawn up and presented to Wilson to sign 20 months after the Tatanic sank (who was lost onboard that opposed a central banking system?). Yes, there was serious fuckery afoot!
yeah, my uncle was told by a couple people that income taxes were not legal, so he quit paying them. then the IRS came a knocking and they ended up with so many fines, court costs and of course having to pay back the taxes that weren't paid, that they had to sell my grand fathers farm to pay for all of it. my grand father left his farm to my aunt. it was sad.
Yes and most likely if he had tried to resist the tyrants with arms, instead of the uncle losing the farm, he would have "bought the farm" so to speak.
All true no doubt, but I want to see the results of people that have successfully won out with their claims of being a Sovereign entity unbound by equity contracts. I want to learn of the fate of anyone that quit paying their income tax because of the evidence that it only applies to federal workers.
Kent Hovind was one of those guys who went around preaching you dont have to pay taxes, legally. probably everything he said was true but he still went to jail for tax evasion. the IRS doesnt care about the law
Exactly. The laws of what the judges and courts say it is.
Remember the drivers education poster that read:
He was right, as he sped along,
But he's just as dead as if he were wrong.
He bound himself in the court when he verified the legal name to them. Trying to have his cake and eat it.
The courts are legal name Guardians. Once you accept the legal name on the birth certificate that is the person (per sound) in court, you are thereby bounty to their jurisdiction.
i dont know how well that actually works in practice
The courts need to establish jurisdiction.
The D.C. corporation needs the man/woman to accept in being a legal strawman/name that they are not. So when they verbally agree with the court at the beginning on being said dead paper-fuction, they have them in their jurisdiction through commerce code.
No name, no game.
In theory...
By voting you are agreeing you are a citizen of the District of Columbia. Same with a drivers license.
Exactly.
And a licence is permission to break the law.
Legal vs lawful.
Pete at losthorizons.com has been teaching and doing this for a very long time. He has had issues, yes, but last I saw remains a free man. I'm not saying to follow him. I'm way too chicken myself.
I'll tell you the secret. Or at least what has worked for me and others.
There is nothing in the law that says you have to report anything to the IRS. They are technically a foreign entity (District of Columbia).
Most people prepay their taxes by having it withheld from their paycheck. There is nothing in the law that says it has to be done this way. You can tell your HR department that you wish to handle your taxes on your own and to not withhold from your check. They might look at you sideways but it's your right.
Where people get into hot water is when they continue to report their income and decide not to pay what they "owe".
The moment you submit that filing is the moment you become liable. If you lie about how much you made in order to pay less taxes, you are liable, because you contracted with them and did so dishonestly. If you try to argue with what they calculated based on what you reported, then you are being belligerent and a court may hold you in contempt.
I've never heard of a case where someone got their door busted down for not reporting their income.
I really wish people would understand this because if we all just demanded an end to tax withholding, the government's funds would immediately dry up. They wouldn't make it to next week, let alone next year.
Disclaimer: Not a lawyer, not tax advice, YMMV.
I would expect you to get into trouble if you don't pay.
I have always wondered what would happen if you pled the fifth on your tax forms. What would happen if we all did?
The only reason they need these documents is so that they can be used against you in court.
Right. A concerted effort based on something as simple as protesting everything being sent to places like Ukraine and Isreal would be all it would take.
How do you not report? As 1099 everyone that writes me a check surely reports it. And all the IRS has to do is ask a bank to see my account. If I file once, have I forever waived my 5th amendment?
I was talking about tax withholding as a W-2 employee. It's different for 1099.
As 1099 there is no tax withholding, but you are expected to report according to what type of entity the payment is going to. I'm not sure if it's different for LLCs vs sole proprietors, but if you pay employees, there is a payroll tax, which is a liability for the employer. My understanding is that the payroll tax is what gets split between the employee and employer and withheld as "income tax". It's not a law, it's just employers spreading out the loss by making employees share the burden.
The only reason that is done (in my opinion) is so that when people go to file their tax report, they are asking for their money back because they overpaid. So instead of the "tax bill" being a literal bill that you have to pay, you are incentivized to file in order to get a refund. If you prepay through withholdings all year and then don't file, no problem, the government is happy to keep your money.
But why give the government an interest-free loan?
I'm not a CPA so I don't want to say anything inaccurate, but what does it matter if your checks get reported? The liability doesn't exist until you file and report your full accounting to determine profits and losses. As an LLC I don't know if there are reporting requirements, there might be. I only know as a W-2 employee you can exercise your right to collect your entire check with no withholding. Whether you report it is up to you.
It's by year, so no, every year is a new leaf.
But if one works a full time job for an employer, doesn't that employer report your earnings to the IRS? And then when you get you W2, are you not bound to report earnings via that W2?
Yes, but so what? They report what they paid you, but that doesn't make you liable for anything. You can go ahead and file a report, but what I'm trying to say is that you can exercise your right to not have your taxes withheld upfront. The only reason that is done (in my opinion) is so that when people go to file their tax report, they are asking for their money back because they overpaid. So instead of the "tax bill" being a literal bill that comes out of your pocket, you are incentivized to file in order to get a refund. If you prepay through withholdings all year and then don't file, no problem, the government is happy to keep your money.
Without getting too deep in the weeds, I'll just say it all stems from the use of the SSN, claiming to be a "US Citizen" which is a fiction that "lives in" DC, and claiming to be a US Citizen legally puts you in the District of Columbia and makes you a subject. So that's part of it, and to correct your status involves several steps like converting your passport to a state national so that you are officially on record as NOT being a US Citizen (as defined in case law) and not residing in the District of Columbia. Then you can correct your contracts with your employer to reflect that you are non-citizen national and being paid as a foreign entity (foreign to DC).
That's the jist of it but I know it's a lot to wrap your head around. They don't make it easy, for sure, but I have done everything above so I can confirm it is a real thing.
Yes, this is all very complicated. I am learning that much of our system is illegal, and that complexity is designed such that people cannot easily fight the system.
But all that being said, I still want to see someone who armed with this knowledge, has prevailed over that system.
The law is what the guy with the power says it is.
Use legal name, play the legal game.
And you are either doing it, or not doing it. No half pregnant.
Bill Cooper is dead off this BS
He pissed off the Anti Defamation League ‘Jewish cabal’, and they sent their henchmen after him. Interesting they call themselves a “league”.
a few years ago my uncle quit paying his income tax and he got sued by the IRS. aunt and uncle lost their farm, literally.
Sad. Most people do not know this but prior to 1913 (IRS/FEDEDERAL RESERVE) Americans didn't pay an income tax. They brought home what they were paid. Our government (state/Fed) functioned on import/export tariffs paid by foreign corporations/countries trading with the U.S.and vice-versa. 1913 was a terrible year for the U.S. and even though Potatobrain Biden is trying to earn the title of Worst in Whitehouse, Woodrow Wilson still holds that title.
I wonder if his presidential library holds records that could be useful. Is there a way to find out?
Yes. Also one would need to look at congressional records on ratifications of amendments for 1912-13 timeline. -Also too, a research of the State legislation records that held votes to recognize the 16th amendment would be the final authority. If I recall correctly, 2/3s of the States are required by law to proclaim an amendment bill to be added to the Constitution. -Extra points for those who dig into Jekyl Island, Georgia in 1913 (ironically as the 16th Amendment was being pushed) and understand the inner workings of who, how, why and when(s) the Articles of the Federal Reserve Act were drawn up and presented to Wilson to sign 20 months after the Tatanic sank (who was lost onboard that opposed a central banking system?). Yes, there was serious fuckery afoot!
Here’s a link to the library https://www.woodrowwilson.org/archivesandresearchcenter
This is why we have the second amendment
yeah, my uncle was told by a couple people that income taxes were not legal, so he quit paying them. then the IRS came a knocking and they ended up with so many fines, court costs and of course having to pay back the taxes that weren't paid, that they had to sell my grand fathers farm to pay for all of it. my grand father left his farm to my aunt. it was sad.
We need to come together armed and ready to defend one another against these tyrants.
I've yet to hear of a case where someone won the argument in court, and I've personally known 2
Yes and most likely if he had tried to resist the tyrants with arms, instead of the uncle losing the farm, he would have "bought the farm" so to speak.
Be like a Chinese restaurant, 1 register is for cards the other for cash. On the books you are barely making it by.