I know this may seem a bit old fashioned to our “Greatest Ally”, but does not falsely accusing Hamas of murdering babies violate the 9th Commandment against bearing false witness? Sure appears so. Don’t you think the “chosen people” could pay a little more attention to the word of G-d?
And btw, you Israeli hasbara posters that promulgate these lies and deceptions, do not think for one moment that you will escape His judgement. You are well on the road to Gehenna.
Well, if they had been honest it was still horrific and now they have diminished the horror of what really happened. why do these people continue to do this?
The truth is bad enough, so why the wild exaggerating?
Because both sides are in the wrong. If you tell the truth, they can tell the truth right back and there goes any justification for what you are doing. Making the other side look so much worse than they actually are is done purely to make your side look better by comparison. At least that's my take on it.
That's like saying both the oppressed and oppressor are wrong. Both the rape victim and the rapist are wrong. Both the occupied and occupier are wrong. Both the Palestinians (natives to the land) and the Israelis (mostly non-natives) are wrong. No, just no.
If that's how you see it, then I would agree with you. But I think the situation is better analogized as "a rape victim turning around and raping someone else" both rapists are in the wrong. Yes you can point to individual grievances where a single party is in the wrong, but I'm talking about the entire situation in totality.
And there are millions of Israelis that don't have a drop of blood on their hands either. What's your point?
We're talking about groups here, you can appeal to individuals all day and find exceptions everywhere. I'm not saying those individuals are in the wrong. I'm talking about groups.
Fundamentally I'm saying this conflict should not be happening, and a diplomatic solution should be found. There is a small minority on both sides that are the evil perpetrators and are in power, and you can empathize with either side, but everything that is happening right now is wrong.
I get the whole "well what are they supposed to do? just take it?" and that works on both sides. The evil needs to be rooted out period. You seem to think that it's all on one side, I just think it's on both sides.
Remember that Hamas isn't in the West Bank, where the PA rules, and the West Bank Palestinians are still having their lands and houses taken away by foreign Zionist colonizing thieves while under the protection of the Israeli army.
That relies entirely on the premise that one of these two are the victim. I think, what u/magaphraust is trying to say is that both sides are oppressors and this is purely a race of propaganda to see who can make the other side look worse in order to gain sympathy which then turns to support. Ultimately resulting in more division, which oddly enough, seems to be what is happening in these comments right now. Anon’s aren’t the enemy here. Sharing information to shine a light on the truth is what we’re all here for.
..lol they have the guts to say that the liars may have simply imagined things from the trauma caused to them by the horrible events.. the nose keeps growing.
Oh well i guess as long as they were only kidnapping and raping women and killing adults its all good and i should be for Palestine! Why do people on here feel like we should pick either side. Its the same as Ukraine war…neither side has clean hands.
The alleged raping was told to you by the same people who now admit they've been lying to you. In other words: also lies. No one was raped.
Kidnaping adults? Israel does it all the time. Israeli jails are full of Palestinians that are mistreated, abused, and detained without charge. This has been going on for decades. In fact, Israel just kidnapped, again, a Palestinian that it had agreed to release as part of an exchange with Hamas.
Every bad thing you think the Palestinians are doing, the Israelis have been doing 10x worse and for decades. Israel was founded by literal terrorism, massacres and razing Palestinian villages to the ground.
Why do people on here feel like we should pick either side.
There's oppressed and oppressors. Palestinians are the natives. Israelis are not. The US has already picked a side which it arms to the teeth. The common man can be made to see through the Fraudocaust and the Rothschilds' tumor project called Israel, which brought suffering to the Middle East.
Of course, you can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink.
Who are the natives is irrelevant just likes its irrelevant here in America. All that matters is who controls the land now. Furthermore depending on where you start your history, Israels claim goes back WAY further. Again im not any side but your theres oppressors and oppressed is leftist garbage.
It's almost like they waited until the attention deficit disorder crowd {ie everyone} forgot about the incident.
So weird how that happens.
Israelis, MSM ...it is the same picture...
I know this may seem a bit old fashioned to our “Greatest Ally”, but does not falsely accusing Hamas of murdering babies violate the 9th Commandment against bearing false witness? Sure appears so. Don’t you think the “chosen people” could pay a little more attention to the word of G-d?
And btw, you Israeli hasbara posters that promulgate these lies and deceptions, do not think for one moment that you will escape His judgement. You are well on the road to Gehenna.
Talmud gives Ashkenazi synogogue of satan permission to lie
Same reason they lied about 9/11 and the holohoax
Was obvious to anyone with half a brain. Israel lies by default.
By Way Of Deception, Thou Shalt Do War.
It might surprise israel to know we never believed it. We know Israel killed their people.
Well, if they had been honest it was still horrific and now they have diminished the horror of what really happened. why do these people continue to do this?
Their entire narrative is atrocity propaganda.
The agenda was to bulldoze gaza, and the hamas attack was the pretext they decided fo use to justify it
Agreed.
So stupid. With the level of joo hatred these days…this is just shooting themselves in the foot.
The truth is bad enough, so why the wild exaggerating?
Because both sides are in the wrong. If you tell the truth, they can tell the truth right back and there goes any justification for what you are doing. Making the other side look so much worse than they actually are is done purely to make your side look better by comparison. At least that's my take on it.
That's like saying both the oppressed and oppressor are wrong. Both the rape victim and the rapist are wrong. Both the occupied and occupier are wrong. Both the Palestinians (natives to the land) and the Israelis (mostly non-natives) are wrong. No, just no.
If that's how you see it, then I would agree with you. But I think the situation is better analogized as "a rape victim turning around and raping someone else" both rapists are in the wrong. Yes you can point to individual grievances where a single party is in the wrong, but I'm talking about the entire situation in totality.
And there are millions of Israelis that don't have a drop of blood on their hands either. What's your point?
We're talking about groups here, you can appeal to individuals all day and find exceptions everywhere. I'm not saying those individuals are in the wrong. I'm talking about groups.
Fundamentally I'm saying this conflict should not be happening, and a diplomatic solution should be found. There is a small minority on both sides that are the evil perpetrators and are in power, and you can empathize with either side, but everything that is happening right now is wrong.
I get the whole "well what are they supposed to do? just take it?" and that works on both sides. The evil needs to be rooted out period. You seem to think that it's all on one side, I just think it's on both sides.
Remember that Hamas isn't in the West Bank, where the PA rules, and the West Bank Palestinians are still having their lands and houses taken away by foreign Zionist colonizing thieves while under the protection of the Israeli army.
That relies entirely on the premise that one of these two are the victim. I think, what u/magaphraust is trying to say is that both sides are oppressors and this is purely a race of propaganda to see who can make the other side look worse in order to gain sympathy which then turns to support. Ultimately resulting in more division, which oddly enough, seems to be what is happening in these comments right now. Anon’s aren’t the enemy here. Sharing information to shine a light on the truth is what we’re all here for.
..lol they have the guts to say that the liars may have simply imagined things from the trauma caused to them by the horrible events.. the nose keeps growing.
Oh well i guess as long as they were only kidnapping and raping women and killing adults its all good and i should be for Palestine! Why do people on here feel like we should pick either side. Its the same as Ukraine war…neither side has clean hands.
The alleged raping was told to you by the same people who now admit they've been lying to you. In other words: also lies. No one was raped.
Kidnaping adults? Israel does it all the time. Israeli jails are full of Palestinians that are mistreated, abused, and detained without charge. This has been going on for decades. In fact, Israel just kidnapped, again, a Palestinian that it had agreed to release as part of an exchange with Hamas.
Every bad thing you think the Palestinians are doing, the Israelis have been doing 10x worse and for decades. Israel was founded by literal terrorism, massacres and razing Palestinian villages to the ground.
There's oppressed and oppressors. Palestinians are the natives. Israelis are not. The US has already picked a side which it arms to the teeth. The common man can be made to see through the Fraudocaust and the Rothschilds' tumor project called Israel, which brought suffering to the Middle East.
Of course, you can lead a horse to the water, but you can't make it drink.
Who are the natives is irrelevant just likes its irrelevant here in America. All that matters is who controls the land now. Furthermore depending on where you start your history, Israels claim goes back WAY further. Again im not any side but your theres oppressors and oppressed is leftist garbage.
Who’s controlling them? This isn’t Israel MO. Interdasting