Way way back before the first GEOTUS Presidency I would follow all documentaries and articles about Trump for a lot of reasons. One of the shows had FEDs that admitted that Trump's Security Force would rival any on the earth and a small ARMY would probably fail against it. I doubt it is less efficient now and I would bet even his SS have developed the same LOVE we have for Him.
Why are people expecting the Secret Service or the Mar A Lago staff to resist a legal search?
Why is everyone pretending this was going to be some big showdown like the OK Corral? Or that the FBI was going to come in hot and heavy. Remember, the public did even learn of the search until it was over.
A local FL publisher got the scoop
Scoop — The Federal Bureau of Investigation @FBI today executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, two sources confirm to @Fla_Pol.
By this point the Secret Service was well aware that a subpoena was served for documents at Mar A Lago. And that the FBI/DOJ had been there before in June discussing returning these documents.
One the day of the search, the Secret Service was notified a few hours ahead of time.
so does "engage with" mean in this context the same thing navy pilots mean when they say "engaging". because that would basically confirm they plan to kill us all if we dont get out of their way
They talk about existing liaison relationship with the USSS POC.
That United States secret service point of contact.
It means they are going to escalate the situation to the standard person they talk to to deal with situations like this where different agencies are engaging with each other.
Law enforcement officers and correctional officers of the Department of Justice may use deadly force only when necessary, that is, when the officer has a reasonable belief that the subject of such force poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or to another person.
Deadly force may not be used solely to prevent the escape of a fleeing suspect.
Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
If feasible and if to do so would not increase the danger to the officer or others, a verbal warning to submit to the authority of the officer shall be given prior to the use of deadly force.
Warning shots are not permitted outside of the prison context.
Officers will be trained in alternative methods and tactics for handling resisting subjects, which must be used when the use of deadly force is not authorized by this policy.
Deadly force should not be used against persons whose actions are a threat solely to themselves or property unless an individual poses an imminent danger of death or serious physical injury to the officer or others in close proximity.
I don't really understand how it would be nice to see FBI agents killed nor do I see anything nice about Secret Service agents having to live with the burden of having killed them. We are not talking about a video game where death is entertainment.
I'm am blown away they have FBI agents who go along with this shit. Engage via liaison relationships? Does this mean they have a SSS inside trumps team they are "friendly" with?
Does this mean they have a SSS inside trumps team they are "friendly" with?
No. It means the DOJ and the FBI have established liaison relationships. It means they have people who can answer questions or negotiate issues if they arise.
Whoa, whoa, whoa.....
First off; youll not find many people more disgusted with our government than me. Esp. with what they're doing to President Trump.
That said......
It says:
"2. Should FPOTUS arrive at MAL, FBI MM EM and OSCs will be prepared to engage with FPOTUS and USSS Security Team."
Again; as much as I want almost all of our corrupt gov in mass graves themselves, I take the highlighted portion above to mean SPEAK with them; work with them; not shoot at them.
OSC = Office of Special Counsel.
I mean; I guess they could lock an attorney from each side in a room & let them go at it cage match style, but I don't think this means they're going to shoot at USSS.....
"4. Should MAL Guest Reception be unwilling to provide a list of occupied guest rooms, FBI Search Team will knock on each guest
room door to determine occupation status. FBI will request a map, list of rooms and skeleton key/card for all rooms from MAL staff.
An FBI MM/TTA with lock-picking equipment will be on scene.
This is definitely creepy & uncalled for, but unfortunately I'm not sure how different it is than if a local police dept got a search warrant for any other hotel.
The Secret Service was notified hours before the search. A spokesman at the time said they facilitiated the search but did not participate. I would guess these means they unlocked doors.
As for the lockpicking stuff. If the FBI was searching your place, would you rather they picked a lock or broke down a door.
Julie Kelly has a history of hyping documents like these
In all my years of reading "Real Clear Investigations" I have never found anything but credible and true work done by Paul Sperry, et al. They are at the top of my list when it comes to believability. Julie Kelly seems cut from the same mold, so I would trust her as well.
Thanks very much for posting - extremely helpful.
Quote from one of the tweets you posted:
The DOJ deadly force policy is literally in EVERY
@fbi op order and read verbatim to every agent involved prior to the op. This is a giant nothing-burger"
God please eliminate this evil.
In your sons name Jesus Christ.
Amen.
Amen.
Amen.
God, please let the elimination of evil begin sooner than later. In your son's name, Jesus Christ. Amen.
Amen.
Amen and Amen
Amen.
Amen, that's the best help I know of.
Fascist dictatorship. KGB, Nazi SS, and East German Stasi would be proud.
Here you go. Garland authorized this.
https://x.com/julie_kelly2/status/1792972717781586109
I'm willing to bet the f b I would loose to the secret service in about 5 minutes.
Don’t forget…GEOTUS has his own private security as well.
Exactly. That shit should be broadcast on PBS.
Way way back before the first GEOTUS Presidency I would follow all documentaries and articles about Trump for a lot of reasons. One of the shows had FEDs that admitted that Trump's Security Force would rival any on the earth and a small ARMY would probably fail against it. I doubt it is less efficient now and I would bet even his SS have developed the same LOVE we have for Him.
Keith Schiller. I think that is a more important name than any of us know. I have been saying this since I found Q.
Who?
Blackwater... I think
Just saw this. Seems to me Secret Service is primary
https://www.quora.com/Does-Trump-have-private-security-other-than-the-Secret-Service
Trump was not at Mar A Lago on the day of the search and the club was closed. It was August. The "season" in Palm Beach starts in November.
Why are people expecting the Secret Service or the Mar A Lago staff to resist a legal search?
Why is everyone pretending this was going to be some big showdown like the OK Corral? Or that the FBI was going to come in hot and heavy. Remember, the public did even learn of the search until it was over.
A local FL publisher got the scoop Scoop — The Federal Bureau of Investigation @FBI today executed a search warrant at Mar-a-Lago, two sources confirm to @Fla_Pol.
"They just left," one source said.
https://twitter.com/PeterSchorschFL/status/1556771253167558657?t=kS2iCczmHLSJq1Om_Pc1PA&s=19
By this point the Secret Service was well aware that a subpoena was served for documents at Mar A Lago. And that the FBI/DOJ had been there before in June discussing returning these documents.
One the day of the search, the Secret Service was notified a few hours ahead of time.
I don't think any of us said anything like that. I just simply stated that the f b I would loose that fight if they stated it.
Read some of the comments here.
Okay.
Since we'll never know... I'd think our CIC would have some incredible force dropping over for a visit within minutes to handle the fb lie.
so does "engage with" mean in this context the same thing navy pilots mean when they say "engaging". because that would basically confirm they plan to kill us all if we dont get out of their way
It absolutely does not mean that.
Read the document she posted.
They talk about existing liaison relationship with the USSS POC.
That United States secret service point of contact.
It means they are going to escalate the situation to the standard person they talk to to deal with situations like this where different agencies are engaging with each other.
I think that's exactly what it means.
You ever notice that it is always the real fascists that constantly call their enemies fascists?
It had the use of deadly force attached to this also. https://twitter.com/julie_kelly2/status/1792972717781586109/photo/1
This is the standard DOJ policy on deadly force. It's literally straight out of the manual. https://search.app.goo.gl/oSe8WV8
It would have been nice to see the Secret Service shoot all the FBI dead.
I don't really understand how it would be nice to see FBI agents killed nor do I see anything nice about Secret Service agents having to live with the burden of having killed them. We are not talking about a video game where death is entertainment.
I think the secret service is backed by the devolution military we don't know about.
There's way more than the secret service keeping Trump alive!
God loves us, and He is keeping our favorite President Trump alive.
Wish I could live to see the tribunals!
It’s not normal and usual. Reasonable instructions would have been (as they do to BLM) “Do NOT ENGAGE!”
It's absolutely normal and usual. It's just being deliberately misunderstood to anger people
They did ENGAGE the Secret Service that day. They called them hours before the raid.
I'm am blown away they have FBI agents who go along with this shit. Engage via liaison relationships? Does this mean they have a SSS inside trumps team they are "friendly" with?
No. It means the DOJ and the FBI have established liaison relationships. It means they have people who can answer questions or negotiate issues if they arise.
Whoa, whoa, whoa..... First off; youll not find many people more disgusted with our government than me. Esp. with what they're doing to President Trump.
That said......
It says:
Again; as much as I want almost all of our corrupt gov in mass graves themselves, I take the highlighted portion above to mean SPEAK with them; work with them; not shoot at them. OSC = Office of Special Counsel.
I mean; I guess they could lock an attorney from each side in a room & let them go at it cage match style, but I don't think this means they're going to shoot at USSS.....
This is definitely creepy & uncalled for, but unfortunately I'm not sure how different it is than if a local police dept got a search warrant for any other hotel.
Am I wrong?
Mar a Lago was closed at the time of the raid.
This all seems pretty standard stuff.
The Secret Service was notified hours before the search. A spokesman at the time said they facilitiated the search but did not participate. I would guess these means they unlocked doors.
As for the lockpicking stuff. If the FBI was searching your place, would you rather they picked a lock or broke down a door.
Julie Kelly has a history of hyping documents like these
In all my years of reading "Real Clear Investigations" I have never found anything but credible and true work done by Paul Sperry, et al. They are at the top of my list when it comes to believability. Julie Kelly seems cut from the same mold, so I would trust her as well.
Do you know shipped wrecked crew on Twitter?
Former Federal prosecutor who is now known as a January 6th defense lawyer.
He is very familiar with this policy and He has been pushing back on this hard
He reposted this guy saying it was a nothing burger. https://twitter.com/GOBactual/status/1793047272185377039?t=Odzth46v8nBC4Jb7vAc6dw&s=19
And said this.
https://twitter.com/shipwreckedcrew/status/1793052713804054608?t=vICtip-x2UNeRIJuCDrOXg&s=19
And now he's having a Twitter fight with several folks
Thanks very much for posting - extremely helpful. Quote from one of the tweets you posted:
Nope, sorry. No blind trust. This is hyperbole on her point. Either that, or she's misreading it / posting for shock value + likes.
I guess they thought Trump would exit his office and light up the place like Tony Montana.
if they tried something that fucking dumb, i imagine trump would've been sworn in as our new leader before the end of the day