UNBELIEVABLE: Experts Discover Oldest Written Record of Jesus Christ's Childhood, Revealing an Amazing Miracle Not in the Bible ...
Experts in Germany have uncovered a deciphered manuscript that has been determined to be the oldest record of Jesus Christ’s childhood.
I like how they're acting like this is a new discovery. The Infancy Gospel of St. Thomas (or The Gospel of Thomas) has been in print for many years. The only discovery here is that they found the oldest known "version" which isn't a complete gospel, just a few words from it.
The reason this apocryphal book was excluded from the Bible is because the council didn't like the two instances in which Jesus killed people. Somebody bumps into Jesus when he was a child and Jesus said "You'll go no further!" and the person dropped dead. There's another part where it is implied that Jesus pushed somebody off a roof and killed them.
The clay bird miracle is fun and all but if we accept that then we have to accept Jesus as a killer.
who else didn't have 'Jesus the Killer' on their bingo card
The above is all correct! Closeup. The find has some excitement to it, but not that which the general public might assume from hasty reading. Rather, it shows that even apocrypha were used for writing exercises very early on, and confirms accuracy of transmission and of early date for the apocrypha.
Both TGP and CBS have written uncritical, incorrect headlines. The source, Humboldt University, correctly reports "Earliest manuscript of Gospel about Jesus’s childhood discovered". Not the oldest written childhood record, but the oldest copy of the "childhood gospel" aka Infancy Gospel of Thomas. Also, not "reveals" a miracle, because Thomas followers (like Anne Rice) have known about these alleged miracles for centuries. There are extant apologetics about the death passages, though I'd take them with a different grain of salt.
Note that we have older manuscripts of Jesus's birth, circumcision and presentation, and childhood, such as Papyrus 141 (3rd century) containing Luke 2:40-42 et al., not to mention Vaticanus/Sinaiticus.
Still looking for Jesus's name in the text. All I can read is "KEK".
kek!!
Thank you for a very informative comment.
wow, I didn't know any of this^ interesting & would explain some of hints I've 'noticed'...about temptation, fighting demons, etc.
There are lots and lots of heresies
If you're curious, you can ask the catholics about them all. They keep an encyclopedia of them.
If you read the NT closely you'll note that many of Paul's letters were specifically addressed towards defeating heresies.
#1 - The first thing I saw on that fragment of manuscript was "kek". Kek.
#2 - The Gospel of Thomas is a gnostic manuscript with teachings contrary to what Christ taught, from what I know of it. I could be wrong.
I believe the 66 books are the real scriptures of God.
Christians and believing Jews before Christ have always known deep inside which books are real.
John 7: 16-17 “My teaching is not My own,” Jesus replied. “It comes from Him who sent Me. If anyone desires to do His will, he will know whether My teaching is from God or whether I speak on My own."
The issue with some of the Apocrhphal books are they were written well after Jesus had died and Raised. Some of them are very accurate and should not have been removed(the ones in the old testimate) but some of the new testament books that were taken out were written a good 400 years after Jesus.
The issue with the Gospels is they were written well after Jesus' death. ....
IF that should be the determining factor .... we can throw out a lot more ....
This is not about about faith but about the historical record itself, not whether what is put into words is accurate, truthful, or not.
The sheer fact that a piece of text survives this long, is a miracle in and of itself. Given the fact, it was neglected for so long, the question becomes: what else is there ....
The gospels were written by people who witnessed Jesus’ life, within their lifetimes. They weren’t written hundreds of years later.
That is a lie from the pit of hell.
And why do we blindly trust a bunch of old men in long robes who decided what should or shouldn’t be in the official canon? Jesus himself quoted from the book of Enoch. But it’s not included? Satan has been deceiving the world from the garden of Eden. And his synagogue has been infiltrating every human endeavor since the time of Jesus. God himself is removing the scales from our eyes and we are seeing the utter corruption and evil that exists all around us.
Arguing a point not made. The point made, as so eloquently put: AFTER certain events, without qualification. Of course it may have been meant to be said, but it was not.
Good point.
Indeed. both issues bring up the question of trustworthiness of what is considered source material, is it not?
they were all written after His death and Resurrection. What makes them accurate is they are backed up by other historical documents. Some of those were a 100 years after and some were 5 years after. They were also backed up by witnesses whom wrote their historical accounts. It is the same way we know George Washington was real, multiple trusted documents from people we trust as historians. There are probably more out there that will either never be found or were destroyed completely.
Thank you for laboring the point.
As I wrote, this is not about faith, but about written records. An issue wrought with fraud.
I am sure, you have heard of the "Gift of Constantine", It took till the 15th century to be outed as a fraud. Yet, thousands, if not millions of dead motherfuckers, thanks to an overbearing papacy. It caused the Unam Sanctam bill and the pernicious influence of Roman law into every nook and cranny of society.
The funny thing is: If you were to ask ChatGTP, it would almost quote you verbatim, putting heavy emphasis on trusted sources, authority, and the like.
And we still don't see how we are being played by the Priests ....Freedom of mind is quite a thing,
Kind of counters their 'thou shalt no kill' doesn't it.
Thou shalt not kill them, but it is alright for them to kill millions of you by any means at their disposal even a "vaccine".
The traitors will be killed lawfully after tribunal, as per the legal codes. Christ didn't sanction us to be vigilantes..