Moar Doug Mills
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SO powerful. Spread the word...
Not to worry, I'm SURE the EFF'n BEE EYE is going to get to the bottom of this, right? ... right?
I'm doubtful about the conclusions. If that streak is indeed the visual blur of the grazing bullet, it appears about a foot long. The nominal muzzle velocity of the 0.224 caliber ammunition normally used is ~3000 ft/sec. For a shutter speed of 1/8000 second, the visual smear of the bullet should be only 4.5 inches long. Contrariwise, if the smear is real, the shutter speed could have been only 1/3000 second.
This means also that the photographer must have had some shutter activation system that was triggered by the event. Such triggering would incur a delay in the start and stop of the shutter opening. Otherwise, this photo being a spontaneous accident is hard to credit.
It's been reported as a vapor trail. Not the bullet itself.
And just wtaf is a vapor trail in the context of a rifle round in flight
Bullets don't leave vapor trails---and if they did, they would be continuous. But it is possible (as I am now thinking) that it was blood and tissue in its wake.
You are close to right about the velocity of the bullet (.223), it's maybe a little UNDER 3,000fps, but you're speaking of muzzle velocity, the speed at which the bullet comes out of the muzzle. Any bullet immediately begins doing two things... dropping AND losing velocity. You have to account for its travel 130 yards (or some say 150 yards) and realize that at that point, it is probably traveling around 2,000fps or perhaps less if encountering a headwind.
Muzzle velocity is always greater than terminal velocity.
Agreed. Muzzle velocities vary depending on loadings; I was grabbing a representative speed. But the mismatch still applies to 2,000 fps. At that speed, the bullet smear should have been only 6 inches long at a 1/8,000th exposure.
The bullet traveling slower would result in the smear being shorter, not longer… you said it should be 4.5 inches long at 3,000 ft/s, then said it would be 6 inches long at 2,000 ft/s.
Maff.
Well, that's what I said. I was mentally comparing it to the image that was taken. The problem, as I said at the outset, was that the camera speed and the bullet speed are not in synch, if the streak is taken to be the bullet
At 3,000 fps, and 1/8000th sec exposure, a streak would be 4.5 inches. At 2,000 fps, and 1/8000th sec exposure, a streak would be 3 inches.
According to this camera the 3000 fps assumption gives a 12-inch streak, so a 2000 fps assumption would correspond to an 8-inch streak.
Thanks for the catch. My apology and embarrassment. But it makes my point nonetheless.
You may also need to allow for air turbulence to the rear of the bullet, which can cause light distortion. Just thinking of all the possibilities.
It happens, but you need special equipment to see it (Schlieren or shadowgraph images). And you have to get up close and personal, so it is studied at shooting ranges. Reflective material (moisture) would show up regardless of any aerodynamics, and would not be seen as from any other location.
I've SEEN Shockwave following explosions and particularly trailing a .50 cal bullet. Humid air can create a sort of vapor trail and you can see it through a spotter scope.
Bottom line, there are a LOT of variables to any bullet trajectory, so I'm coming down on the side that the photo is legit.
IMHO, of course.
There's nothing illegitimate about the photo, only a question of what the streak is.
Between us, I think we've covered all the possibilities.
Cameras have burst mode now. He used a Sony A1. It can shoot 30 pics a second.
Pretty lucky capture. He would have been taking images from 0.00375 of any second.
But the exposure numbers still don't add up. I am now beginning to think he did not capture the bullet, but the blood and tissue in its wake.
I don't know what your number is. Based on velocity?
I don't think this would be the case cuz A. Probably a lot slower. B. Less likely to be a straight line, more of spraying every where C. Would probably be caught in the subsequent photos.
https://x.com/gsanskar0/status/1812408764919947721?t=CGh0twSSocG3J6qjMZBp8w&s=19
For the first comment, my calculation has nothing to do with bullet velocity. If you are taking 30 frames/second and each frame is 1/8000th of a second, than for every second, you are taking only 0.00375 of a second's worth of image. The remaining 0.99625 second remains unseen.
For the second comment, any blood/tissue from the wound would trail in the wake. That is a supersonic bullet. Things will not spray anywhere if they are being carried in the wake. An earlier or later frame would be 0.0332 second off, and the movement of the "bullet" would have taken it 99.6 feet downrange (or 66.4 at a velocity of 2000 fps). So, no, I don't expect to see any similar material in any other frame.
If you multiply 0.00375 by 8000 you get 3. So I think you had an error somewhere.
But we are saying the same thing. You have just a tiny amount of time. My numbers have that even tinier....1/3 of your time. But burst mode lets you take many pictures in a row. So that increases your chances a bit
Yes, but You still see 99% of the image. You still see Trump. But this only affects fast moving objects.
I imagine the initial impact would create all sorts of collisions and trajectories. So it the direction of the bullet generally not in a straight line, right?
Math challenge. If you have 30 frames in a second at 1/8000th of a second per frame, the total image time in a second is 30/8000 = 0.00375 second. The rest of the time is no image. I have no idea what you are trying to calculate.
The remaining 0.99625 second remains UNPHOTOGRAPHED. Thus, unseen.
The bullet was a piercing shot. It simply went straight through the earlobe. The trail is in line consistent with that. Bullets do not deflect unless they hit bone or other solid material.
Ok, I though you trying find the time for 1 frame
You were doing cumulative time for 30 frames.
I left a zero here. My bad.
I don't expect the bullet to deflect or to be doing anything other than going in a straight line
I was talking about blood spray, not the bullet. There would be all sorts of initial deflections of solids and liquids once the bullet pierced the skin
Could literally of been a contrail of his atomized ear tissue? its rather... Beige
I think you are onto it, though the trail is mainly reflective than colored, consistent with moisture.
I’m telling y’all they knew the date from Soros January tweet.
Soros does a Tweet with the bullet hole in the glass and $47in Jan, the building is purchased in April, Biden says Trump needs to be in the Bull's eye a few days prior to rally, the SS made a pacman perimeter cutting out the building, Jill does a unscheduled last minute appearance in PA to draw the SS away, Trump gets barely trained DEI newbies. Nothing to see here folks, move along. Gee, it almost looks like the Biden's were in on the Assasination attempt. But, what do I know.
It’s worse, see my comment, 3rd from top, the tweet from Soros- “the money shot” (without the sexual connotation) for the cabal. https://greatawakening.win/p/17teNj5eHl/one-week-ago-sen-joe-manchin-tel/
1/800 and even 1/250 is unusual in those conditions.
Not at f1.6 when you're also trying to freeze the flag waving in the air behind Trump.
f1.6? That is an awful narrow focal range to capture a flag on a crane and a man 20 ft away! Lets in a lot if light too.. Are you thinking of f22?
You're looking at a cropped photo. It's not narrow on a sub 85mm lens (24 in this case) and the flag doesn't have to be sharp.
When you go above f11 you get defraction issues with every lens on the market.
I figured it was nothing more than a fake photo, but nothing surprises me anymore.
Same
Was thinking about this picture the other day.. Have seen bullet streaks before shooting when the light was just right (hand gun).. Catching cartridge in the air for picture was cool enough for us.. But a Bullet, hmmm searching topic I found this:
https://www.peterrussellphotography.com/nk1/nk12.html
The brighter the day the faster the shutterspeed. Makes perfect sense. You reduce the shutterspeed and or the iso so that he doesn't look overly bright.
Time for Doug to feel the heat.
For what?
The same guy who was hired to “photo” George Bush during 9/11 “sir we are under attack”. Now is at a Trump rally, with a super slow motion camera lens to catch Trump…what, drooling? You don’t find anything unusual about the post you just commented on? Why was he set up for slow motion? Was this his first rally ever attended? How did those pictures get out so fast?
Do you question anything? Are you ok?
Wtf is a super slow motion camera lens? A lens is a lens. In this case a 24mm at f1.6 which lets in a lot of light, hence the need for a fast shutter speed.
The camera body is capable of shooting no less than 20 raw images in a burst. You're looking at a cropped photo from a burst of photos. He was trying to freeze the flag in the shot behind Trump.
He being Doug Mills, a board member of the White House Correspondents' Association. He's been doing this shit for 40 years because it's his fucking job. Can we stop trying to invent enemies over cameras and camera settings you know nothing about?
Btw, your needed here for your wisdom.
https://greatawakening.win/p/17teSPkcUx/more-treachery-from-the-legacy-m/c/
So the original post is just stupid then? Very fast capture lens looking directly at Trump the exactly the right time. Coincidence?
And by your standards of time earned working at the White House, then Biden is the most qualified person to run anything government? What 50+ yrs? Oh we go by their past. What’s Doug’s past? Right time right place? Just lucky I guess.
I get what your saying. But let’s not be completely ignorant either. Clearly this was planned. Who was upfront and center, rdy for best picture, and according to you, a board member working along side the government for 40 years? Ty for the info. Makes better sense now. Doug is probably sad this week.
Ehh idk. Fast shutter means less motion blur in any case. Use the settings you're most comfortable with. Not detracting from the argument but a lot of these photogs are spraying and praying. Just listen to the cameras in the white House press room. Constant shutters
I don’t think doug mills sprays and prays - he is a lifelong pro
Maybe he should start praying though😀
True but you never know what your going to capture until that shutter clicks. They take thousands of pictures in an hour and maybe one of them is the gold mine
Roger that.
Fast shutter speed and (likely) high frame rates would be expected for the conditions.
I remain skeptical on this one though - too coincidence-yyyy.
Wonder if the exif data is available for the image - or what is.
Remember how the media was complaining they should be allowed into the debate, just in case there was a “medical emergency”🤔
A YUGE smoking gun.
This conspiracy goes wide. I believe even Judge Merchan knew hence the reason he added the comment about sentencing date might not be necessary. I thought at the time it was due to the SC ruling but now I believe he knew.
Yeah he was trying to capture the flag that was blowing in the wind which you don't see because the image is cropped! It was also shot at f1.6 which also contributes to the fast shutter speed.
Why is this sticked??? Why are we making everyone out to be part of some large conspiracy when they're just doing their fucking job?
This guy may have done photography, but it doesn't mean he's a professional photographer.
Shutter speed is one of basics a pro photographer would worry about. You need to understand a few other things that affect shutter speed to see if the shutter speed is
Another basic is f-stop. This indicates how open or closed the aperture of the camera is.
See here https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Aperture_diagram.svg/1280px-Aperture_diagram.svg.png
This affects the look of the picture. It affects what is in focus and how deep the field of focus. You usually set the f-stop first and from there you determine the shutter speed. And both of these are affected by the focal length
If your lens is wide open, you're letting in a lot of light, so to compensate you want the shutter to be really fast. Otherwise the image is overexposed.
He posted the EXIF data he used 24 mm lens. Wide angle good for up close shots. 1.6 f-stop WIDE open lots of light let in 1/8000 sec shutter speed. Super fast less light let in
This combo makes sense if he was super close on a sunny day. He was like 3-4 feet from Trump.
But how did e capture the bullet streak?
That's still luck. He was probably shooting in burst mode. That camera can take 30 images a second. That burst of 30 images if it started slightly differently might have not captured the bullet because the lens might have been closed in that instant.
he's the same guy who took the photo of George Bush Jr. on 9/11 in that classroom with the agent whispering in his ear.
I'm not speaking of the guy who took the picture. Trump loves that guy. He's photographed every president since Reagan.
I'm talking about the guy in the screenshot. The guy who is claiming this is all suspicious.
It's not.
I said that on day 1. I also said CNN rarely covers Trumps rallys but this one was front and center. He for sure knew it was coming.
With the known shooter location, and the known trajectory of the bullet, has anyone done an analysis to determine where this particular bullet landed after passing through Trump's ear?
once a 5.56/223 hits a blade of grass it can fly off anywhere...
Especially 55grain.
If that photo with the bullet path is real, then it seems like the place where it landed could be easily estimated. Perhaps all the people right behind Trump got lucky!
2 people were unlucky, 1 person was very unlucky.
One tell would be if the photographer was shooting in aperture mode or shutter mode. It is usually what is most important at the time. Like if he wanted a shallow depth of field - aperture mode. If the sky was the background all the time this is not necessary but I heard he wanted the flag in the background as well, maybe he opted for it to be blurry. Then the shutter speed would be set automatically.
If he was using shutter speed priority and dialled in 1/8000, the shortest available. I would take him in for questioning, highly suspicious.
A VERY DAMNING STATEMENT by a professional photographer...can't wait too see the fallout from this!!!!!
THE top cameras for this are: Nikon D850, Canon 5D Mark IV, Sony A7R III : 1/8000...
Can't wait for NYT to let it be known what camera their photographer used!!!!!
Flagship camera. Sony A1. 24mm lens.
There shouldn't be any fallout. It's all circumstance.
How come in this photo the sky is 100% blue. Yet watching it live and when you go back and watch in other videos the sky is grey and overcast. Something isn't right.
"the sky is grey and overcast"
wrong.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F87LPOdGiA
I dont see it as strange. Trump moves a lot. This guy prob uses that speed to make sure everything looks perfectly still. The speed he is using is probably more than needed but also makes it easier on the photographer. Not even to mention thinking the guy is good enough to capure a bullet in flight. Has that good of timing. Just doesnt make sense to say that was planned.
it's cropped. he was shooting wide open and trying to freeze the flag in the background.
President Trump will now be on stage like a firey Bapisit Peacher dancing all over the place. Saying Nana Nana Bobo, you can't hit me. /s