"I'm giving federal immunity to police officers so they can do their job." - DJT
Look around, how are LEO'S treating us with qualified immunity? We cant trust these people with Federal immunity! They already walk around like Feudal era Samurai, mercing citizens at the slightest provocation. This is the first and only agenda 47 item im against and I need to know how the community feels about it.
We gotta get someone in his inner circle to talk him back from a huge mistake here. Why are we giving the greatest amount of latitude to those with supposedly the most training, and then holding the untrained citizenry to the highest moral standards of all? Police need more ACCOUNTABILITY, not immunity.
This bodycam footage of an officer shooting an IL woman who was holding a pot of boiling water (with a lot of space and a counter between them) is a good reason not to give immunity.
https://youtu.be/snD_TeRdcMo?si=QAeBouaFgV1jSHvq
Thats Ms. Massie. The very case I was mentioning. That man was fired from 4 departments before murdering her
Wow. Horrible! Thanks for posting.
The body cam thing always had me confused. There were many departments fighting for these thinking they would help them, but instead it ended up adding an extra level of scrutiny. Now every move they make can be scrutinized by world completely out of context (that being no officer commentary to explain their perspective).
When I saw all these departments pushing for this I was thinking, these guys have no idea what they're in for. Now every cop at these departments has a first person recording view point of everything they do. That includes bullshit arrests, the lies they tell people to get them to incriminate themselves, and the dumb stuff they do with their service weapons.
The good cops don't want to deal with that BS everyday and the bad cops can't deal with it because they get caught and fired like the asshole in this video.
Smart. I agree with you. My dad is a retired police officer. He says all the changes in the past 10-15 years were designed to federalize the police force. I can see that.
Thanks for your interesting comment.
He does mean with exceptions. I would expect it means an investigation can happen, but while that goes on the officer is totally backed up and shielded from harassment (immunity). But there could be an investigation to remove the immunity in cases where that investigation shows serious wrongs etc.
At the moment, the officer is thrown to the wolves when there is just an accusation, they should be immunised against that for sure.
Trump clarified this at the black journalists convention thing. Funny, they asked him "hur dur, so what exactly is a BLACK JOB MrPresident" and he should have said "well, what is a black journalist?"
There definitely needs to be more accountability. But we also live in the time were people thrive off of lawsuits. And picking fights over trivial bullshit. Or to keep local/state Governments from throwing Cops who’ve done nothing wrong in the aftermath of an high profile incident, under the bus to assuage mobs of angry citizens as has happened several times already.
You don’t give them some form of protection from frivolous bullshit. The already backed up Court System is going to get backed up even further as people seek to level charges both criminal and civil at the Police over random bullshit. And many Police Departments are already struggling hiring and retention as is.
I’d imagine though the Agenda policy point. Is more just a general broad placeholder descriptor. With the actual details and legalese including what it can and cannot do. And exceptions on where it does and doesn’t apply are going to be hammered out at a later date.
There can be exceptions and conditions. Keep good cops from being wrongfully imprisoned, and put bad cops in prison.
State don't have to follow. Power back to the state get involved and change shit.
I feel like this should be everyones knee jerk reaction to everything these days. Power to the states = More power to the people.
This is not immunity from criminal acts. I believe this is from civil prosecution. Imagine being a police officer and being sued for misgendering someone.
I would nullify that officer for the murder of zim/zero if I was on the jury
How do you think they will be able to mass deport without it? Otherwise it will be an endless stream of personal lawsuits against individual federal agents and federal law enforcement officers who participate. They need this, just as the military needs lethal force authority in combat.
In the Philippines under Duturte's War on Drugs, he had their backs and they did a lot of extrajudicial drug dealer killings. Not as many as the Obama Admin claimed, but thousands. The druggies quit using Shabu (meth) in the rural area my wife is for the most part for fear of death. Out of about 30, one is still used...
Trump might mean this as a temp. the thing to oust the illegals, and the Antifa twats, etc... Not sure how I feel about this, but I wouldn't want to be a cop and come across someone in the middle of committing horror. Jeffry Dhalmer had heads and penises in his fridge, i'd shoot!
I was surprised too.
You made a point to say those that are acting in the line of duty and trying to do the right thing.
That cops who beat people and harass them. But it makes for muddy waters.
Probably bc of the BLM bull, George Floyd & such, but I think of actual bad cops - like ones that rape foster kids in the backseat of their cop car - and immunity doesn't sound so good.
First of all "police" are literally corporate policy enforcement that have NO obligation to protect or help citizens in any way at all.
Second, most cops aren't great and some are really bad. It's certainly a case of the many ruin it for the few.
A big piece missing from this statement by Trump is the new "police" will be enforcing actual laws (rather than corporate statutes) and those laws will be based on the constitution. Our legal system is supposedly going to be reformed with real input from we the people (not this corporate citizenship crap).
I'm hoping that we get real freedom instead of a 1950s reboot when it comes to our legal system but we'll have to see how things go.
In cities where there is absolutely no rule of law like detoilet, san franshithole, and chicongo I could understand but this is a slippery slope for trigger happy cops.
End the fed. Trump isn't a savior. He's less dangerous than uniparty, but his vision is also imperfect and retarded
This may be something needed when the MIL steps in. Everybody is supposed to stay out of the way. This is going to be an issue in major cities. Local & state LEO may very well be asked to assist MIL per usual in any crisis.
You need to provide a source, and context to better explain what exactly Trump is, and is not promoting.
We all are aware how they play the game - day one Democrat President write a new Executive Order and erase his predecessor’s EO’s. The new rule in the game is never, ever let a Democrat back in the White House