Anon, at this point in time, it's probably not worth the effort trying to wake up idiots.

It's better to help encourage the lions to be bolder.

I'm going to save you the trouble

If these are indeed his talking points, walk away-

-Don't bother engaging because his mind is already made up. Yes yes, I know, never retreat from the battlefield.

Here's the current battlefield-he's lying bloody on the ground, bayonet through his chest. Perpetrators are long gone. And he holds up a paper demanding you surrender to his ministry of information.

He's a goner.

#1. So what. Liable does not equal guilty.

#2. False.

#3. False. Michael Cohen paid her out of campaign funds.

Shake the dust from your feet and walk away.

Your friend is a lost cause but here you go.

Epstein was arrested during Trumps reign. No other politician would touch Epstein because they were all on Lolita express with him. Trump banned epstein from MAL also.

No one accused Trump of rape until he switched parties and ran for office. They ran the same playbook against Giuliani and Kavanaugh which was ridiculous because kavanaugh actually saved himself for marriage.

Stormy ended up paying that money back to Trump in the form of a settlement for violating her nda! Lol. First hooker to pay for sex.

Trump’s only vice seems to be attractive women which he seems to have outgrown. He doesn’t drink, smoke or do drugs. Trump could legit be nominated for sainthood at this point.

Rape - E Jean Carroll

• When did it happen? She doesn't know - not even to the year.
• Where did it happen? In a shop that fortunately had the whole floor clear at the time. No other shoppers who could have seen anything and no staff.
• The event took place in a changing cubicle. Those cubicles are kept locked unless you have clothes to try on in which case an assistant will let you in.

She claims to still have the dress she was wearing at the time. Did she let NYPD examine it? No!

Was she an Apprentice fan? Yes!

Did she think rape was sexy? This is what she said to Anderson Cooper.

The law in NY was changed with help from Carroll to remove the statute of limitations. Basically, they changed the law just to go after Trump.

15 Facts About E. Jean Carroll’s Allegations Against Trump the Media Don’t Want You to Know

Hush Money to Porn Star

I think your story is a bit off. Both Daniels and Trump have denied any affair. The lawyer paid Daniels without consulting Trump and then billed the Trump organisation every month for a year claiming it was "Legal Costs". The organisation paid all the bills. Trump had a charge against him for each invoice, each payment and each bookkeeping entry made which is why there are nearly 36 indictments.

All of that is not a felony. To turn it into a felony they said that it was all done to cover up an election crime. Thing is, no-one, least of all the prosecution, seemed to know what that crime actually was! No evidence of any crime was presented.

The entire country is burning down and those are his points? Don't waste time on the clown. FFS you can't fix stupid.

ANON He is not a Friend leave it be. He is nothing more than a boat anchor

Someone like this is too far gone. Save it for regular, normal people. Not the brain washed.

This is the problem with liberals - none of their "Trump" complaints are based on his policies and this is all they can bring to the table. I simply ask them how much better off were they when President Trump was in office.

It’s not worth it. I have one leftist ex coworker I still text, and whenever I think “I got him with this one” he just dismisses it, or his go to is convicted felon, or I’m not buying what ur selling. It’s like arguing with a toddler.

Update on things:

My friend is actually taking the debate decently. He's of course not changing, but he is living up to his promise of not deleting the conversation.

There are two of his friends who've jumped in and are way more unhinged. One at least brings some points about how Trump won't be able to fix inflation. I'm not gonna lie, I don't think anyone can. Best we can do is stop it and start improving the economy which I point out in his Agenda 47 areas. He hits back with Bidens CHIPS plan that "stopped inflation and added jobs".

Overall though, let's be honest. That's not why the modern day lefty is against Trump so luckily, my friends mom of all people hopped on.

Boys.....I have never even met this lady in my life. However.....this tells me my friend never stood a chance. I sometimes feel these people are so freaking insane that it's a one-off. Never really considered many could be a result of this lunacy is because of their parents.

This was her first post she chimed in with 🤣

She has since added 20 posts in total in less than 5 minutes lol.

Indoor need any help on any of her "points". Only one I may need to dig a little on is her claim of 1400 infants separated under Trump are still separated for family. I have a feeling it won't be due to lack of trying to reunite, but if anyone wants to save me time go for it.

You guys are going to enjoy this rant 🤣💀

PLEASE DO NOT USE THIS TO RUN A SEARCH AND DISCOVER OUR DEBATE & JOIN IN. This is my friend guys. Let them show themselves off as the bullies and rabid ones. Again, there is no hope for him or others, but he lives in Atlanta and I guarantee you that my words are reaching people who are not as vocal as they are.

And he is doing something so many on his side refuse to do and that's to at least allow the other side to say what they have to say. I do respect that and hope you guys do as well and refrain from doxxing.

My friends Mom: That’s weird. I don’t care about your mindset when I vote. I care about policies and facts. A***** listed several that are irrefutable. Here are more - McConnell stole two SCOTUS seats and changed the court to fundamental Catholic leads. Why are Catholics disproportionately represented in our highest court? Because the Heritage Foundation chose them for their anti abortion stances!! (the Heritage Foundation has been instrumental in packing the courts at all levels).

Another fact: Project 2025, which I imagine learned their worldview from “The Handmaid’s Tale,” comes out of…The Heritage Foundation. Vance wrote the forward to it. It is the plan for Trump’s next term (it is common to build a transition program and Trump was too inexperienced and uncurious to know that, which is what saved us from him becoming a tyrant (he famously wanted to use the military against American people -that’s as in American as you get);

Trump doesn’t care enough to think through policy - he was very proud of the abortion bans until he found out they were super unpopular and he would lose votes, but that won’t matter if he gains power again because they have a plan now and he will be “President for life”, like Venezuela.

He encouraged J6 and says he will pardon the 1600 criminals who tried to destroy the peaceful transfer of power in his name.

His administration separated children from their families without any reunification plan. They thought it was a good way to discourage immigrants. It is a violation of human rights and broke international law. Stephen Miller, who designed that policy, will be in the administration again.

There are 1400 kids, some were infants, that may never be reunited with their parents for the “crime” of coming here to seek a safer and better life for their families.

His administration thinks it is ok to stop women from traveling for an abortion. Can you think of any reason that men would be threatened with jail for driving to a neighboring state? No?

Then the Trump administration is, by law, making women second class citizens.

Republicans refuse to pass ANY gun safety legislation. He says there weren’t mass shootings during his administration. In fact, there were 263 mass shootings while he was President. So those numbers must be added to the 70 daily suicides and over 24,000 homicides a year.

Murder rates under Biden are at historic lows. Crimes against LGBTQ community, violence against women, murders of trans women and men, and general violent crime went way up under Trump - even with Covid.

Oh. And he killed a million Americans with by getting rid of the pandemic office in the White House and prioritizing the economy (which dived anyway) over people’s safety. He KNEW it was going to be really bad but he still put out false info because he was afraid he might lose the election.

Oil? We are producing record amounts of oil under Biden. Crime? Rates are far lower under Biden - especially violent crime. I believe that is because of his and his buddies’ rhetoric. It’s violent and misogynist and racist. The dog whistles are no longer only heard by white nationalists - they are foghorns now. We all hear the racism. What else, love?

If he's asking for a debate specifically to tell you "why Trump is bad", he doesn't actually want to debate or hear all the facts you bring him, so there's no point in engaging with him.

But if you do, maybe check through your saved folders on your profile here to see if any past posts might help.

The info I'm going to tell you should be available via a search, and possibly even here with a key word search.

1. E Jean Caroll or whatever her name was accused something like a dozen men, all wealthy and all powerful, of raping her. She's also a nut job. She told Anderson Cooper in an interview that she thought 'everybody loves a good rape fantasy.' When she 'won', she also told Rachel Maddow she'd buy her a townhouse. Look up some of her interviews, she pretty much exposes herself for being crazy.

2. He was never close friends with Epstein. Both being billionaires, they hobnobbed amongst the same group, went to some of the same parties, etc. Trump said he never went to his island and would expose the list of those who did, if made president again. Back around 2006 or 2009, Epstein was first charged and the prosecutor is on record in a video interview stating Trump is the only person who would help him and testify against him. He also barred him from his Maralago club for allegedly hitting on a minor girl there - the daughter of an employee. I can't verify that last part.

3. Stormy Daniels filed an affidavit, which is apparently the highest form of court document, stating that she never had sex with him. She has flip-flopped over this issue to the point that she probably doesn't even know if she did or didn't. She was paid a fraction of what Bill Clinton paid Paula Jones back in the 90s which was 850K. So why didn't they go after Clinton?

Good luck. I admire your willingness to take him on and I hope he is genuine in wanting to present and HEAR truth. If not, shake the dust from your sandals. But be sure to let him know you no longer trust him since he didn't debate in good faith.

Also, if he brings up some nonsense about Trump being racist, ask him would a racist white man actually date black women? Seriously? He dated one in particular for about a year and a half. Numerous black people are on record saying they know him and he is not racist.

If he said he told people to inject bleach or lysol into their arms, show him the clip of that press conference. (Clue: he doesn't.) If they say he made fun of a disabled reporter, show him the clips where he makes the same spastic gestures about a General, Ted Cruz, himself (years ago on Larry King) and others.

Best of luck! I'll say a prayer for you. And please, do come back and let us know how it all went. Take care and put on the full armour of God.