President of the FEDERAL government has NO POWER to eliminate STATE property taxes.
I am in favor of the smallest government possible, whatever that is.
But ANY government needs funding.
Possible sources of funding:
Income tax (the worst type of funding; most people don't owe it, anyway, but are deceived into thinking they do)
Property tax - at least, this money goes mostly to local government; the problem is, local governments THINK they have to do what the feds tell them, so it doesn't matter so much that it is local, if they think they have to do what the feds say
Sales tax - one of the best ways to tax for state/local, since people who consume more, pay more
Tariffs - foreign trade, so only applies to feds, but the best tax for them, especially as it can level the playing field (but is completely unlevel right now)
Direct tax - each person (or each adult) pays an equal amount; if equality is the buzzword, then this SHOULD be the preferred method, but of course communists do not want the People to realize that they would each have to pay $20,000 per year PER PERSON (family of 4 = $80,000 per year) just to pay for the federal budget, not counting state or local
Constitutional apportionment tax - this is the only way the feds could implement a direct tax; they did it a few times in the first decade or so of the Constitution, but not since, because it would result in the above, or something very similar
Today, the federal budget is MOSTLY borrowing fake money from the Federal Reserve, and a big slice of state/local budgets is getting "free gibs" from the feds.
The whole thing is a clusterfuck.
There is an old saying: The art of taxation is to pluck the most feathers from the goose, with the least amount of hissing.
You are correct, the president cannot do anything about state taxes. But Donald Trump has this way about him where he gets people to do things...
He will have so much popular support in the future that I believe most state governments will bow to his "suggestions" for fear of being branded losers.
In the future there will be sales tax.
There will be taxes on corporations.
There will be no filing of income taxes.
There will be no tax on inheritance.
As i see it, trump will eliminate income tax, causing the last remnants of the cabal to spike property taxes, thereby waking people up to their corrupt locals and changing property laws on the state level
And with all of that, they STILL have a $2 TRILLION PER YEAR budget DEFICIT.
Let's break this down to what similar numbers would look like for an individual.
Total income: $40,000 per year ($4 trillion total fed gov't revenue)
Total expenses: $60,000 per year ($6 trillion fed gov't spending)
You have to borrow: $20,000 per year to make ends meet ($2 trillion fed deficit)
Now, you decide you will quit working and live on only your investment income.
Your job income is 93% of your $40,000, and your investment income is 7%.
So, now you have:
$2,800 per year income, but a
$60,000 per year spending habit
How do you balance these out?
Remember: You are also IN DEBT $350,000 ($35 trillion fed gov't total debt), and have maybe $2,000,000 in unfunded liabilities -- debts you WILL have, some day ($200 trillion fed gov't unfunded liabilities -- that they will admit to; it's probably much more).
So, how do you clean all that up on $2,800 per year?
Pay back private Central Bankers' debt-based money created from nothing with money created from nothing. Trump hinted at this. Monetize bitcoin as authorized Congress per Constitution. Pay off the debt present and future. All that debt goes "poof." Kind of like the old Hebrew 50-year Jubillee Year did. Repeal the Fed Res Act. Repeal the falsely-ratified 16th Amendment.
Freeze Congressional appropriations deflating the inflationary pressure of $ value of gold/ounce back to $2067 gold/oz.
Next freeze convertability of Fed Reserve note money then in circulation to $2067/oz gold. Issue new currency - United States Notes - valued at $20.67/oz gold denominated in US Notes. Effect price adjustment where Fed Res notes are made convertable at a rate of $1 US Note = $100 Fed res notes.
Re-denomination of assets takes place in terms of Treasury issued US Notes - backed by gold without debt accruing to private Central Bankers preserves the wealth of all as it re-orients the denomination of the US financial system.
Imagine 4-cents/gallon gas and spacious middle class affordable properties for $7K - 10k. Your $200,000/yr annual salary becomes $2000/yr but the money you have is actually valuable now, and no longer artificially inflated. Demands on one's income is also redenominated by a factor of 100x downward.
Result: very nearly pre-1913 era asset re-valuation with honest currency backed by gold at what was then the prevailing rate of $20.67/oz of gold and no more debt based currency + a debt free nation.
According to the bureau of economic analysis: "The average personal consumption expenditures (PCE) ("goods and services") per capita in the US in 2023 was $55,400."
A 5% federal tax on goods and services ("sales tax") would make up your hypothetical $2800 a year per person.
Since this would make up for the differences according to your numbers, no one would need to pay income tax.
This is before the massive savings on government spending brought about by Elon musk running the "government efficiency board" like an absolute boss.
The American people have been grifted to hell. When that comes to an end, and the economy is roaring like it never has before, 5% sales tax is not going to be a big deal.
It's doable and it's going to happen.
14% of total revenue comes from sales tax, which is already at 7.25%, but goes up to 10.25% in some cities (the cities can add on to the state amount).
Since 1/7th of all revenue comes from sales tax, California would have to go up to 50% sales tax if the entire revenue was supported by only sales tax.
Other taxes would be eliminated, though.
The real problem is that most states, and the feds, SPEND TOO DAMN MUCH MONEY.
The budgets need to be drastically cut, but politicians and welfare recipients (poor people, retired people, and corporations) will scream about it.
"Democracy" fails when 51% realize they can steal from the 49% via taxation.
(Yes, I know it is a republic, but the government employees have been ignoring that.)
There will also be a difference between President of the Federal Corporation of The United States, vs Trump who WILL become the 1st President of The Constitutional Republic of The United States since basically 1912/1913.
I’m pretty sure Trump can then remove ongoing Federal Property Taxes since they didn’t exist here before the Federal Reserve was created, depending on prior State’s laws.
I agree about sales tax, it is more fair! Rich people would pay more with a sales tax! People are often lulled into a sales tax if another tax is eliminated, often times the government grifters don’t eliminate the other tax.
Especially here in Texas. I have two acres and a nice house with pool/spa. I pay $14,000 a year in combined property taxes. (which is actually on the low end for a house with land like I have) Even if my house was paid off I’d still have to pay over $1,000 a month. I also pay like $1300 a year into an HOA to pay for street lamps, road maintenance, lake/fountain maintenance, mowing common areas, etc.
Yes and we are fighting high property taxes in Texas. We had good legislation passed last year to cap and would have had more success if we could have kicked Dade Phelan out!
"The New England states have close to 5% property taxes -- 4%+ of the purchase price PER YEAR.
That is just robbery."
Agree, but I live in CT in a house with property valued at just north of $1MM. Properrty tax where I live ~ 75 miles north of NYC is ~$14,000. Therefore, ~ 1.4% of total property value/yr, not 5%. Income tax @ 3- 6.99% and sales tax at 6.35% is brutal.
Some disabled veterans and their surviving spouses can receive a 100% property tax exemption on their primary residence. It obviously doesn't transfer when they both die, but it is there while one of them are alive as long as they own that house as their primary house (homestead).
I can’t stand these different laws for senior citizens. If property taxes are too high for seniors they’re too high for a blue collar worker trying to raise a family.
I see older people like this all the time, so willing to vote for increase taxes for everyone than screaming for special treatment because they’re on a “fixed income”
The only way this will be stopped Constitutionally is to go back to conveying actual title and ownership of land through Land patents. Our property needs to be removed from the government rolls of zoning altogether. They actually have no legitimate authority to have ever gone away from the way it was done originally, and no authority to rob us by granting Color of title in lieu of actual title.
Actually the Federal Gov't is supposed to be we the people. We the people own the land, but the Gov't got too big and people no longer matter. Over time we let them take our rights because we just wanted to live our lives and be left alone.
I used to read stuff by a fellow named James Wesley, Rawles who wrote some books and had a survival forum in the early 2000's. He said he worked a deal with Idaho for his property to have something similar to an allodial title. But I can't remember what the title type was, what it was called. If my (shitty) memory serves, you had to pay a certain number of years of property tax (my brain is saying "5") to even qualify for it (I really do have a shitty memory, sorry). However, all my searches and AI inquiries say it's not possible in Idaho. I will try to find that info, if I remember to look later lol.
One way to avoid property tax is to bury a loved one on your property. There are restrictions and caveats, and you'll have to look more into it, but this is one way to illuminate your property taxes.
Property tax sucks. But may be the most reasonable tax of all taxes. I understand it’s having to pay for your property to the government in perpetuity. But what is returned is the “protection” of your property. The cost for protection never ceases. This country could easily be run on property taxes and tariffs and nothing else.
America is a very rich country. There are lots of natural resources to pay FOR EVERYTHING. They don't need to tax people's homes to pay for stuff. Tax should be voluntary. When people aren't burdened by over taxation and inflation they will happily contribute to support their communities.
No do the “ nobody owns their properties because they paid (using the term paid loosely here) with promissory notes. You can’t use debt to “pay” debt. Yes we are all using debt in the form of promises to pay (promissory notes aka Federal Reserve Notes) other debts. Only minted silver and gold coin in exact amounts qualify as money in the constitution. I bet you’re thinking, awe, but FRNs are legal tender. I would argue that the term legal, as used in the previous sentence, is not what you think it means.
President of the FEDERAL government has NO POWER to eliminate STATE property taxes.
I am in favor of the smallest government possible, whatever that is.
But ANY government needs funding.
Possible sources of funding:
Income tax (the worst type of funding; most people don't owe it, anyway, but are deceived into thinking they do)
Property tax - at least, this money goes mostly to local government; the problem is, local governments THINK they have to do what the feds tell them, so it doesn't matter so much that it is local, if they think they have to do what the feds say
Sales tax - one of the best ways to tax for state/local, since people who consume more, pay more
Tariffs - foreign trade, so only applies to feds, but the best tax for them, especially as it can level the playing field (but is completely unlevel right now)
Direct tax - each person (or each adult) pays an equal amount; if equality is the buzzword, then this SHOULD be the preferred method, but of course communists do not want the People to realize that they would each have to pay $20,000 per year PER PERSON (family of 4 = $80,000 per year) just to pay for the federal budget, not counting state or local
Constitutional apportionment tax - this is the only way the feds could implement a direct tax; they did it a few times in the first decade or so of the Constitution, but not since, because it would result in the above, or something very similar
Today, the federal budget is MOSTLY borrowing fake money from the Federal Reserve, and a big slice of state/local budgets is getting "free gibs" from the feds.
The whole thing is a clusterfuck.
There is an old saying: The art of taxation is to pluck the most feathers from the goose, with the least amount of hissing.
You are correct, the president cannot do anything about state taxes. But Donald Trump has this way about him where he gets people to do things...
He will have so much popular support in the future that I believe most state governments will bow to his "suggestions" for fear of being branded losers.
In the future there will be sales tax.
There will be taxes on corporations.
There will be no filing of income taxes.
There will be no tax on inheritance.
As i see it, trump will eliminate income tax, causing the last remnants of the cabal to spike property taxes, thereby waking people up to their corrupt locals and changing property laws on the state level
Let's consider that.
Right now, the federal budget has revenues from these sources:
That's 93% of all revenue coming into the federal governent from "income taxes" (these are all based on "income," no matter what they are called).
The other 7% is from
https://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing-book/what-are-sources-revenue-federal-government
And with all of that, they STILL have a $2 TRILLION PER YEAR budget DEFICIT.
Let's break this down to what similar numbers would look like for an individual.
Now, you decide you will quit working and live on only your investment income.
Your job income is 93% of your $40,000, and your investment income is 7%.
So, now you have:
How do you balance these out?
Remember: You are also IN DEBT $350,000 ($35 trillion fed gov't total debt), and have maybe $2,000,000 in unfunded liabilities -- debts you WILL have, some day ($200 trillion fed gov't unfunded liabilities -- that they will admit to; it's probably much more).
So, how do you clean all that up on $2,800 per year?
See the problem?
cut spending and increase tariffs
Pay back private Central Bankers' debt-based money created from nothing with money created from nothing. Trump hinted at this. Monetize bitcoin as authorized Congress per Constitution. Pay off the debt present and future. All that debt goes "poof." Kind of like the old Hebrew 50-year Jubillee Year did. Repeal the Fed Res Act. Repeal the falsely-ratified 16th Amendment.
Freeze Congressional appropriations deflating the inflationary pressure of $ value of gold/ounce back to $2067 gold/oz.
Next freeze convertability of Fed Reserve note money then in circulation to $2067/oz gold. Issue new currency - United States Notes - valued at $20.67/oz gold denominated in US Notes. Effect price adjustment where Fed Res notes are made convertable at a rate of $1 US Note = $100 Fed res notes.
Re-denomination of assets takes place in terms of Treasury issued US Notes - backed by gold without debt accruing to private Central Bankers preserves the wealth of all as it re-orients the denomination of the US financial system.
Imagine 4-cents/gallon gas and spacious middle class affordable properties for $7K - 10k. Your $200,000/yr annual salary becomes $2000/yr but the money you have is actually valuable now, and no longer artificially inflated. Demands on one's income is also redenominated by a factor of 100x downward.
Result: very nearly pre-1913 era asset re-valuation with honest currency backed by gold at what was then the prevailing rate of $20.67/oz of gold and no more debt based currency + a debt free nation.
Without checking any of your numbers...
According to the bureau of economic analysis: "The average personal consumption expenditures (PCE) ("goods and services") per capita in the US in 2023 was $55,400."
A 5% federal tax on goods and services ("sales tax") would make up your hypothetical $2800 a year per person.
Since this would make up for the differences according to your numbers, no one would need to pay income tax.
This is before the massive savings on government spending brought about by Elon musk running the "government efficiency board" like an absolute boss.
The American people have been grifted to hell. When that comes to an end, and the economy is roaring like it never has before, 5% sales tax is not going to be a big deal.
It's doable and it's going to happen.
What about Capital Gains tax?
I aint in debt to jack shit. The morons who accrued it are deliquent. Not me.
I pay extremely close attention to the past and the present.
😺
He certainly does...
There already are sales taxes (in most states) and taxes on corporations (in most states).
Let's take California as an example:
https://www.next10.org/sites/default/files/2021-07/CBC-Revenue-May2021_0.pdf
14% of total revenue comes from sales tax, which is already at 7.25%, but goes up to 10.25% in some cities (the cities can add on to the state amount).
Since 1/7th of all revenue comes from sales tax, California would have to go up to 50% sales tax if the entire revenue was supported by only sales tax.
Other taxes would be eliminated, though.
The real problem is that most states, and the feds, SPEND TOO DAMN MUCH MONEY.
The budgets need to be drastically cut, but politicians and welfare recipients (poor people, retired people, and corporations) will scream about it.
"Democracy" fails when 51% realize they can steal from the 49% via taxation.
(Yes, I know it is a republic, but the government employees have been ignoring that.)
There will also be a difference between President of the Federal Corporation of The United States, vs Trump who WILL become the 1st President of The Constitutional Republic of The United States since basically 1912/1913.
I’m pretty sure Trump can then remove ongoing Federal Property Taxes since they didn’t exist here before the Federal Reserve was created, depending on prior State’s laws.
Thanks for bringing up this critical point Brent! 💥
I agree about sales tax, it is more fair! Rich people would pay more with a sales tax! People are often lulled into a sales tax if another tax is eliminated, often times the government grifters don’t eliminate the other tax.
Especially here in Texas. I have two acres and a nice house with pool/spa. I pay $14,000 a year in combined property taxes. (which is actually on the low end for a house with land like I have) Even if my house was paid off I’d still have to pay over $1,000 a month. I also pay like $1300 a year into an HOA to pay for street lamps, road maintenance, lake/fountain maintenance, mowing common areas, etc.
Yeah, Texas is one of the worst states for property tax.
People say Texas has no state income tax. True, BUT ...
Texas isn't terrible, but still they have a lot of taxes.
The New England states have close to 5% property taxes -- 4%+ of the purchase price PER YEAR.
That is just robbery.
Yes and we are fighting high property taxes in Texas. We had good legislation passed last year to cap and would have had more success if we could have kicked Dade Phelan out!
"The New England states have close to 5% property taxes -- 4%+ of the purchase price PER YEAR.
That is just robbery."
Agree, but I live in CT in a house with property valued at just north of $1MM. Properrty tax where I live ~ 75 miles north of NYC is ~$14,000. Therefore, ~ 1.4% of total property value/yr, not 5%. Income tax @ 3- 6.99% and sales tax at 6.35% is brutal.
EXCEPT for one case: https://texvet.org/propertytax
Some disabled veterans and their surviving spouses can receive a 100% property tax exemption on their primary residence. It obviously doesn't transfer when they both die, but it is there while one of them are alive as long as they own that house as their primary house (homestead).
Over 65 in Ohio you can get a homestead exemption if you live in your home...cuts property taxes in half
I can’t stand these different laws for senior citizens. If property taxes are too high for seniors they’re too high for a blue collar worker trying to raise a family.
I see older people like this all the time, so willing to vote for increase taxes for everyone than screaming for special treatment because they’re on a “fixed income”
Don't get old
That's great for the 0.01%. What about the other 99.99%?
I didn't say it was perfect - just possible.
Gotcha.
The only way this will be stopped Constitutionally is to go back to conveying actual title and ownership of land through Land patents. Our property needs to be removed from the government rolls of zoning altogether. They actually have no legitimate authority to have ever gone away from the way it was done originally, and no authority to rob us by granting Color of title in lieu of actual title.
You can learn more about Land Patents here: https://teamlaw.net/land.htm
First homes should have no property tax, all other housing should have increased taxes.
Actually the Federal Gov't is supposed to be we the people. We the people own the land, but the Gov't got too big and people no longer matter. Over time we let them take our rights because we just wanted to live our lives and be left alone.
Oh ... the irony.
RIGHT?!! And that is totally criminal. We own our home and yet if we stop paying taxes we’d loose it. 😡
I used to read stuff by a fellow named James Wesley, Rawles who wrote some books and had a survival forum in the early 2000's. He said he worked a deal with Idaho for his property to have something similar to an allodial title. But I can't remember what the title type was, what it was called. If my (shitty) memory serves, you had to pay a certain number of years of property tax (my brain is saying "5") to even qualify for it (I really do have a shitty memory, sorry). However, all my searches and AI inquiries say it's not possible in Idaho. I will try to find that info, if I remember to look later lol.
Land Patents here: https://teamlaw.net/land.htm
One way to avoid property tax is to bury a loved one on your property. There are restrictions and caveats, and you'll have to look more into it, but this is one way to illuminate your property taxes.
Yup. Trump showed us the way burying Ivana on his golf course property...
The simplest way is to start a small church, and have the house be the church location.
Churches are exampt from paying property tax.
Also 100% exempt from income tax, either paying the tax or filing any tax forms.
Property tax sucks. But may be the most reasonable tax of all taxes. I understand it’s having to pay for your property to the government in perpetuity. But what is returned is the “protection” of your property. The cost for protection never ceases. This country could easily be run on property taxes and tariffs and nothing else.
Leasing it from the government or from the Rothschilds?
Correct, property taxes are 100 percent theft and should be unconstitutional.
There are a few states that have floated the idea of eliminating property taxes from all residential properties.
Thank God I'm tax free, 100% VA has its perks.
Worse, it funds our local schools and pays them to teach our 10 year old daughters how to give a blow job. Well, not in a small town.
America is a very rich country. There are lots of natural resources to pay FOR EVERYTHING. They don't need to tax people's homes to pay for stuff. Tax should be voluntary. When people aren't burdened by over taxation and inflation they will happily contribute to support their communities.
No do the “ nobody owns their properties because they paid (using the term paid loosely here) with promissory notes. You can’t use debt to “pay” debt. Yes we are all using debt in the form of promises to pay (promissory notes aka Federal Reserve Notes) other debts. Only minted silver and gold coin in exact amounts qualify as money in the constitution. I bet you’re thinking, awe, but FRNs are legal tender. I would argue that the term legal, as used in the previous sentence, is not what you think it means.
Exactly… They get you with the definitions.
Legal vs lawful
Black's law dictionary.