I honestly haven’t studied enough to be sure either way but I am aware of the possibility of alternate WWII history in which these very same arguments could be used to make Hitler sound like he wasn’t such a bad guy. Not saying he wasn’t. Just entertaining the thought. With all the propaganda and lies over the years from our own government and then throw in Operation Paperclip, who knows?
Enemy playbook seems similar with the sexual degeneration of the Weimar Republic compared to what they are doing here. I’m sure there are many other parallels. That alone is a known leftist tool to unburden people by what has been, so to speak. Was Hitler more of loyal nationalist, like Trump, than the demon he has been portrayed to be? Again, I don’t know, but I do know the history I learned was written by the winners and not by Hitler.
Not a Hitler sympathizer by any means. Just curious of the history of the liars who control the information of this world. I only have a public school education and know more about biblical history than later societies so perhaps I’m speaking ignorantly. As time goes by biblical history just gets more supported and stronger while secular history written by people with agendas seems to increasingly fall apart under scrutiny. Is it any wonder I question it?
Boring Tuesday afternoon inspired thoughts it seems, lol.
I'm seeking, clarity, not conflict here -
So the death factories of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Maidanek, Chelmno, Sobibor and Belzec are lies? I have seen that the Soviet estimates on killed numbers were much higher than many current day estimates.
The death squads of Einstazgruppe(n) A, B, C, D never happened? The allies allegedly caught wind of Auschwitz and were going to bomb it - no truth to that? What about the trials? What about the convicted?
Think of the death camps as Adrenochrome distribution centers...
AGAIN - not looking for an argument, not calling anyone wrong - just looking for clarity and facts. I believe that something happened in Poland during WWII and it was horrible, but there were also serbian camps and I think some in ukraine as well. What is the truth?
This is one of those topics that just requires a boat load of dedication to researching...im certainly not close to being done yet and while I feel confident of stating what many of the lies were, I am NOT as confident in what ALL the truths are...
Here is one of the places that I started and perhaps it will serve as a great kicking off point for you as well.
Zyklon B - delouser. Gas chambers were not air tight. Not enough ash in area to account for the bodies. Not enough time to gas and cremate that amount of bodies. There were swimming pools in the camps. They had bands. They had dances. They were quite well cared for actually.
The camps were there, yes. Eisenhower cut off food supplies to Germany and the people in the camps starved.
Was there atrocities? Of that I am sure, but there is not enough evidence to support millions being methodically and systematically killed.
Were the Jews rounded up? Yes. Were there innocents caught up in it all? Yes. Did the Zionists know Jews were being starved? Yes, it was the plan all along. They needed someone to play the role they were going to assume for the next 100 years of their plan.
Cant disagree with any of this. Its a tough subject for sure because there is ALMOST no way to speak truth to the general public without getting hit with the AntiSemitic tag.
You cant deny a peoples suffering, real or imagined....it is part of their identity.
There’s a video that I’ve seen posted here where concentration camp survivors detailed all the stuff you mentioned, bands, games, plays, being treated well by guards etc.
I thought I saved it but now I can’t find it anywhere. Just wondering if anyone else has it saved. Thanks.
The only 'camp' that used to come close to your description was Theresienstadt and that was sometimes referred to as a camp and other times a ghetto. Theresienstadt's big claim was that it apparently had a large library, but no pool... There are pictures of the guards torturing prisoners in Buchenwald and tons of pictures of the selection lines at Auschwitz. Almost all camps had some sort of musical 'entertainment' The commandants liked hearing Wagner and the boys quite a bit... They were always billed as ultra-horrible places. The serbian camps were supposedly more brutal, but that is for another time.
One more thing - there was a widely publicized event where himmler took in an execution in Minsk and got brains or something on his spiffy uniform and apparently made hm real sick and he turned green, well himmler made some sort of procedural changes b/c of that... So there were executions and whatever did or did not happen kept Simon Wiesenthal very busy after the war. I think there definitely was a final solution and I'd like to know the truth about what happened. I do think that a far worse version of the final solution will happen again...
Been thinking about this recently. So basically, I think I understand that he put his potential enemies. (Bolshevics, Marxists, who happened to be Jewish for the most part) In labor camps. The war went badly, food shortages, disease, etc. many died. To me this is no different than the US putting Germans and Japanese in internment camps all over the US during the war. We didn't have the disease and food shortages since we were not located in the actual war zone, but really same idea. The Japanese also commented horrible war crimes and most people don't even know. Communists across the globe have genocide more people than any other ideology.
I am aware of the possibility of alternate WWII history in which these very same arguments could be used to make Hitler sound like he wasn’t such a bad guy. Not saying he wasn’t. Just entertaining the thought. With all the propaganda and lies over the years from our own government and then throw in Operation Paperclip, who knows?
I think these are pretty safe positions that aren’t debatable, though they certainly aren’t going to win you any points with normies, either. (Not asserting that Hitler was worse than Satan with Normies instantly makes you a Nazi)
The Germans got destroyed in WWI and WWII by a foreign occupying force (not the Allies, but Prussia).
Hitler was not as evil as Satan, and likely had some redeeming traits and actions. This is why some portion of Germans seem to have been very loyal to him. This also does not mean he was good, or that he was headed in the right direction overall.
One reason for the demonization might be because he almost outed some of the higher level masters to the public, which can’t be allowed to happen. This also does not mean he was good.
It is possible that one or more of these German movements was infiltrated and had its direction shifted.
When you put the enemy’s top men in charge of your government after a war, as America did, you didn’t win. There may have been strategic reasons for this, but I’m not aware of any that make sense.
So why argue these points when they don’t win any affection from anybody? Because the truth matters. We are seeing what adopting the lie has done to us, whether it was actually better than the opposition or not.
The point here is that there seem to be great costs to turning off critical thinking and looking at issues in pure black and white. Given our current position, we have to be able to look back and see how we got here, and it doesn’t seem like all-out demonization and ignoring things helps with that task. Hopefully, there will be a mostly full declass on WWII.
The Rothschilds used and funded Hitler (a member of their bloodline) to create the German war machine. They sacrificed the Jews in the Holocaust to generate worldwide sympathy and create the Zionist state of Israel.
The evidence that Hitler worked with the Zionists was that he made a deal with them (Haavara Agreement) to transfer some 60k Jewish Zionists to Palestine. The Jews that remained were sacrificed.
I've studied some of the same theories over the years too and while yours are similar to mine and many others, the major difference I believe is that while the Rothschilds did finance Hitler/NSDAP to get their nation up and going again for war purposes, the nsdap basically got out of their control and 'went rogue' so to speak. Meaning that they accepted everything they could get from them in terms of money and support but then turned on the Rothschilds.
I think people are forgetting that the German government captured and held Louis de Rothschild for a ransom of around $21 million. The Rothschilds paid up. The German government also produced a film entitled "die Rothschilds" which of course many western nations today call propaganda but nothing in the film itself is untrue regarding how the family came to be. I've seen the film and if you search around you can find a place to watch it.
The speaker is David Sorensen of Stop World Control. If you poke around his website and see what else he's been up to, you'll see that the man works hard to bring truth out to the people. I've not seen much of his that I disagree with.
I honestly haven’t studied enough to be sure either way but I am aware of the possibility of alternate WWII history in which these very same arguments could be used to make Hitler sound like he wasn’t such a bad guy. Not saying he wasn’t. Just entertaining the thought. With all the propaganda and lies over the years from our own government and then throw in Operation Paperclip, who knows?
Enemy playbook seems similar with the sexual degeneration of the Weimar Republic compared to what they are doing here. I’m sure there are many other parallels. That alone is a known leftist tool to unburden people by what has been, so to speak. Was Hitler more of loyal nationalist, like Trump, than the demon he has been portrayed to be? Again, I don’t know, but I do know the history I learned was written by the winners and not by Hitler.
Not a Hitler sympathizer by any means. Just curious of the history of the liars who control the information of this world. I only have a public school education and know more about biblical history than later societies so perhaps I’m speaking ignorantly. As time goes by biblical history just gets more supported and stronger while secular history written by people with agendas seems to increasingly fall apart under scrutiny. Is it any wonder I question it?
Boring Tuesday afternoon inspired thoughts it seems, lol.
Once one realizes how much of the Holocaust history is pure lies, especially the Gas Chamber BS ...the entire view of Hitler changes.
At one time I was led to believe he was the most evil man in history...now I think differently.
Right? And there are countless movies about how awful the German were. Hollywood isn’t controlled by the Germans sooo….
IPOT has a bunch of research about this subject. Interesting stuff.
I'm seeking, clarity, not conflict here - So the death factories of Auschwitz, Treblinka, Maidanek, Chelmno, Sobibor and Belzec are lies? I have seen that the Soviet estimates on killed numbers were much higher than many current day estimates. The death squads of Einstazgruppe(n) A, B, C, D never happened? The allies allegedly caught wind of Auschwitz and were going to bomb it - no truth to that? What about the trials? What about the convicted?
Think of the death camps as Adrenochrome distribution centers...
AGAIN - not looking for an argument, not calling anyone wrong - just looking for clarity and facts. I believe that something happened in Poland during WWII and it was horrible, but there were also serbian camps and I think some in ukraine as well. What is the truth?
Thank you in advance frens - God† bless.
This is one of those topics that just requires a boat load of dedication to researching...im certainly not close to being done yet and while I feel confident of stating what many of the lies were, I am NOT as confident in what ALL the truths are...
Here is one of the places that I started and perhaps it will serve as a great kicking off point for you as well.
https://lovkap.blogspot.com/2018/01/auschwitz.html
Zyklon B - delouser. Gas chambers were not air tight. Not enough ash in area to account for the bodies. Not enough time to gas and cremate that amount of bodies. There were swimming pools in the camps. They had bands. They had dances. They were quite well cared for actually.
The camps were there, yes. Eisenhower cut off food supplies to Germany and the people in the camps starved.
Was there atrocities? Of that I am sure, but there is not enough evidence to support millions being methodically and systematically killed.
Were the Jews rounded up? Yes. Were there innocents caught up in it all? Yes. Did the Zionists know Jews were being starved? Yes, it was the plan all along. They needed someone to play the role they were going to assume for the next 100 years of their plan.
Cant disagree with any of this. Its a tough subject for sure because there is ALMOST no way to speak truth to the general public without getting hit with the AntiSemitic tag.
You cant deny a peoples suffering, real or imagined....it is part of their identity.
There is another story I came across via Eric "winkle" Brown yt videos, the UKs no1 test pilot.
In a documentary about the German planes he tested during the end of the war, he recounts how typhoid broke out at a camp.
And how the Germans were so petrified they suspended activities...giving safe passage to and from,for the allies to treat the outbreak.
A rather different narrative.
There’s a video that I’ve seen posted here where concentration camp survivors detailed all the stuff you mentioned, bands, games, plays, being treated well by guards etc.
I thought I saved it but now I can’t find it anywhere. Just wondering if anyone else has it saved. Thanks.
The only 'camp' that used to come close to your description was Theresienstadt and that was sometimes referred to as a camp and other times a ghetto. Theresienstadt's big claim was that it apparently had a large library, but no pool... There are pictures of the guards torturing prisoners in Buchenwald and tons of pictures of the selection lines at Auschwitz. Almost all camps had some sort of musical 'entertainment' The commandants liked hearing Wagner and the boys quite a bit... They were always billed as ultra-horrible places. The serbian camps were supposedly more brutal, but that is for another time.
One more thing - there was a widely publicized event where himmler took in an execution in Minsk and got brains or something on his spiffy uniform and apparently made hm real sick and he turned green, well himmler made some sort of procedural changes b/c of that... So there were executions and whatever did or did not happen kept Simon Wiesenthal very busy after the war. I think there definitely was a final solution and I'd like to know the truth about what happened. I do think that a far worse version of the final solution will happen again...
Henry turns green - https://www.holocausthistoricalsociety.org.uk/contents/einsatzgruppen/himmlervisitsminsk.html
Does this resemble the story of Auschwitz of history books?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-qXISYy2Pk
A very different version of mengele, 24X7 crematoriums, Arbeit Macht Frei and Zyklon B...
Here is another interesting video that paints an entirely different view of these camps than history books.
https://photos.onedrive.com/share/29D79AEE4648511D!232?cid=29D79AEE4648511D&resId=29D79AEE4648511D!232&authkey=!AC12C61E_xsohXI&ithint=video
Here is one more you may find interesting
https://historicaltribune.wordpress.com/tag/holocaust-survivors-tell-the-truth/
Been thinking about this recently. So basically, I think I understand that he put his potential enemies. (Bolshevics, Marxists, who happened to be Jewish for the most part) In labor camps. The war went badly, food shortages, disease, etc. many died. To me this is no different than the US putting Germans and Japanese in internment camps all over the US during the war. We didn't have the disease and food shortages since we were not located in the actual war zone, but really same idea. The Japanese also commented horrible war crimes and most people don't even know. Communists across the globe have genocide more people than any other ideology.
Typhus and starvation were a MOFO but it would be a shame for propagandists to let all these deaths go to waste.
I’m with you. We know nothing. I’m going to put it out there. Maybe Hitler wasn’t the monster they made him out to be. My mind is open to everything.
try watching "Europa the last battle"
Agree. Very eye opening.
I will. Thank you for the recommendation.
I think these are pretty safe positions that aren’t debatable, though they certainly aren’t going to win you any points with normies, either. (Not asserting that Hitler was worse than Satan with Normies instantly makes you a Nazi)
So why argue these points when they don’t win any affection from anybody? Because the truth matters. We are seeing what adopting the lie has done to us, whether it was actually better than the opposition or not.
The point here is that there seem to be great costs to turning off critical thinking and looking at issues in pure black and white. Given our current position, we have to be able to look back and see how we got here, and it doesn’t seem like all-out demonization and ignoring things helps with that task. Hopefully, there will be a mostly full declass on WWII.
More food for thought:
I've studied some of the same theories over the years too and while yours are similar to mine and many others, the major difference I believe is that while the Rothschilds did finance Hitler/NSDAP to get their nation up and going again for war purposes, the nsdap basically got out of their control and 'went rogue' so to speak. Meaning that they accepted everything they could get from them in terms of money and support but then turned on the Rothschilds.
I think people are forgetting that the German government captured and held Louis de Rothschild for a ransom of around $21 million. The Rothschilds paid up. The German government also produced a film entitled "die Rothschilds" which of course many western nations today call propaganda but nothing in the film itself is untrue regarding how the family came to be. I've seen the film and if you search around you can find a place to watch it.
What’s in "die Rothschilds" ?
The speaker is David Sorensen of Stop World Control. If you poke around his website and see what else he's been up to, you'll see that the man works hard to bring truth out to the people. I've not seen much of his that I disagree with.
https://stopworldcontrol.com/