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I need some evidence/advice. My 19yr old son lives in Indianapolis and seen Musks arm gesture last night(and i have to admit it looks suspect to me)and now is getting more convinced that MAGA is a cult. What can i show him/do to dispell this. I trust Trump but that gesture is a hard one to explain.
posted 1 year ago by Checkmate 1 year ago by Checkmate +32 / -0

Thanks in advance.

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– Einskaldir 30 points 1 year ago +30 / -0

Your son is stupid and gullible. He wants to be, you cant do much about it.

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– Checkmate [S] 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Don't ever call my son stupid again! If that's your way of giving advice... don't.

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– AZTrumpette1776 18 points 1 year ago +18 / -0

my 19 year old boy is an idiot half the time. thinks with his emotions just like all stupid 19 year olds. don't take offense their brains are not fully developed until about 25.

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– HenryBowman1984 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Shit…I’m 60 and am still an emotional ass sometimes…

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– AZTrumpette1776 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

My son is conservative and based as well, doesn't change the fact he is an idiot half the time.

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– ChillBlane 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Me, too.

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– Olddogg 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

You asked for advice and he gave it. Based on what you told us it wasn’t unreasonable.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The person insulting you is literally a sleeper account. Been here for four years. I wouldn’t worry about what he thinks. He’s only made two posts in four years. 🤷‍♀️

ABOUT EINSKALDIR

1665 post score

2702 comment score

joined 4 years ago

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– Checkmate [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Thank you for the info. It was disheartening to see... especially here. People can bash me all they want. Not my son. I have my hands full with his liberal girlfriend in regards to my son and my granddaughter. Crazy thing is... I talked em out of aborting my granddaughter and now she's 15 months and the smartest most beautiful little girl I've ever seen but, they still lean left.

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You can easily check on a users information by clicking on their name and then clicking on the search 🔍 and it will show you the username, their comment and post scores, and when they joined. I’ve been doing this a lot lately, especially on PDW because of all the trolls and a three letter agencies, pushing their psychological operations. I’ve noticed a trend, where people have had accounts from anywhere to 3 to 4 years, however, with little to no activity. A big tell for me, on the person that insulted you was that they only have two posts in four years. Obviously not genuine.

Especially the GAW family, they generally aren’t going to insult your children when you’re asking advice regarding one of them. So now that you know that about this person, you can click on their name, and you can block them so you don’t have to interact with them because they’re fake and gay.

Provide your son with the information that was given to you on a video about a guy who shows the entire clip and points out that in fact, it was not a Nazi salute. Instead of trying to prove yourself right, try and work in a lesson for him, on how the media manipulates the truth, and to remind him to use his critical thinking, because you know he’s a smart guy! Win win for everyone 👏👏👏

In the future, hopefully you’ll find more people actually rooting for your success instead of trying to bring you down. 🙏🇺🇸

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– Checkmate [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Thank you! I had no idea about that. I really appreciate you taking the time to type that info out. God bless!

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– ThisIsHowItStarts 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

God bless you, and your entire family. I’m sure you’re grateful to be a grandparent. 🥰

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– TewaPatriot 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sadly young men, not all but most, tend to think with their head, not the one upstairs. As long as she keeps servicing him he's gonna think however she wants him to think. Throw a child in the mix and the hole is deep he dug himself into. The liberal gf is the problem, what she says will go sorry. Too much hanging over him now if he acts out of pocket she'll leave him and take everything he has in child support. These liberal hags love free shit. The best you can hope for is he will be conservative in the closet in a liberal house.

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– heavyD 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

If the foo shits wear it.

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– Checkmate [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Just out of curiosity... if there was a 19 yr old on the fence about all this would you red pill him with facts or call him stupid and ignorant? I guess after we win we can be the ones to call names. Sorry didn't get the memo.

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– Einskaldir 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Timing is everything, on inauguration day, my collegue was in my office when Trump took the mic. She is on the Trump hater side although just passively, its the only thing medias serves us here in canada.

Anyway i just watch it with her and comment on the great things he says, and let her know hes always been this way, i comment on his promises at his first inauguration, to save the children and give the power to the people.

Anyway i feel an opening, i tell her, do you want to see something you've never been shown ? And i just put a compilation of biden touching small kids inaproprietly. I ask her one question. Have the media ever told you about that ? Why ?

2 hour later, she was actually trying to be moderate and even took stance vs her other collegue. Sure shes shy now but shes on the path.

If i had tried in the last 2 years, she was not ready. Somethimes we just need to be patient and wait for an opening. I redpill people slowly, as much as i can, but not everyone is ready, some are lost forever. I wish your son finds your strengh deep in him and follow your path.

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– Einskaldir 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I would probably just ignore him. If it was my son tho, i would be indifferent to him and just let it transpire that such crazy opinions are not worth my time. And id wait for another time to redpill him, when hes rdy. I would defenetly not give up on him. But i would never put myself in a defensive position for not being brainwashed. Its a tough position to be in, way harder than just letting other people think for us. Its our burden. Hopefully, one day he slowly wakes up.

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– Cowfarts 26 points 1 year ago +26 / -0

It's more of an awkward gesture than anything. He places his hand on his chest and gestures like he's throwing his heart to the audience while saying "My heart goes out to all of you".

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– Home-grown 20 points 1 year ago +20 / -0

Very obvious..he was throwing his heart. Some people are just willfully ignorant.

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– brain_dead 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Here is a good pic of all the Demonrats doing the same thing.

https://x.com/catturd2/status/1881679365840499058/photo/1

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– Checkmate [S] 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Thank you.

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– brain_dead 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

You are welcome.

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– 2Red_Wolves 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

People see what they want to see....

Did they not also see how he clutched his chest? Have they not seen his exuberance, every time he is on stage, at the fact of knowing we are creating history?

He feels a powerful love from Americans when he is with Trump, he throws his love back as he stands on the stage. He realizes the importance of what is happening and is thankful to be a part of what is good.

There is no telling what he has witnessed on Twitter that was evil.

We should all feel the exuberance he feels of how close we came to total destruction.

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– WTFChuck 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

Show him the underlying X post related to this: https://greatawakening.win/p/19AKAqasth/the-adl-notorious-for-jumping-on/c/

At the X link, Elon actually responds to the ADL with, "Thanks, guys" and a laughing emoji.

https://x.com/ADL/status/1881474892022919403

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– 27745 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Here's a link to the kamala Elon comparison pic if ud like it

https://files.catbox.moe/y9svjg.jpg

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– Dysnomia 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

👆Aha, yes, this.

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– Checkmate [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Thank you so much!

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– 27745 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

https://files.catbox.moe/83rxo7.webp

Np, here's more examples of the actual cultists doing the thing I just ran across.

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– MysteryBabylonNoMore 6 points 1 year ago +6 / -0

Not sure if this will help you kill the narrative fren.

https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1881464984489898440?t=pZuN0HKIobIWVAOhz3grtQ&s=19

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– MysteryBabylonNoMore 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Found another collection of pictures here.

https://x.com/mayemusk/status/1881670697174614267?t=O-vWIM8Z1nvZBpzsqOsrPw&s=19

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– Dirty30 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Thanks for that link, fren. It demonstrates beautifully the hypocrisy of the MSM!

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– MysteryBabylonNoMore 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You're welcome fren,

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– Checkmate [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Thank you fren! That definitely helps.

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– MysteryBabylonNoMore 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You're very welcome! I thought it was a pretty solid infograph. Weaponized emotional trigger words or phases can be difficult to speak reason against and I wish you luck in your endeavor!

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– Rightminded 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

There's a photo of Kamala doing the exact same arm gesture. It was a side by side meme with Elon and Kamala

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– Revodude 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

The democrats are quite literally the Nazi party. Everything they do is out of the Nazi play book. They just put pretty wrapping on it and maybe a nice sounding bow. The NWO is just a pretty name for the 4th Riech. To disguise themselves, they call everyone else fascists and Nazis. Fascism is actually a left wing ideology. Hardly a spit of difference between it and communism.

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– FiveDogs 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Continue to pray. You might ask him just to watch several minutes of Elon. Elon is just different than most American men. Especially during the Inauguration when POTUS mentioned going to Mars.

He is your son and God put you two together on purpose, you have the connection needed to dialogue with him.

Trump was President for four years, there were no camps filled with the anti MAGA people then.

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– TaQo 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Buy him a copy of mein kampf and as you hand it to him, tell him, "Welcome to the party, pal. Brother Adolf wrote some great stuff in there."

See what happens...Get his reaction on video...

I mean if people are going to choose to overlook every blessed positive thing and focus on the smallest most insignificant supposed gesture like it's supposed to mean something... you might as well use some kung fu, go with the direction of their insanity/stupidity and tease them for being so gullible by making them see just how dumb they've allowed themselves to become...

EDIT: https://x.com/the_jefferymead/status/1881514166936383809

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– bubble_bursts 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Just show the full clip and if he still insists Blake torsos for raising a moron

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– forced2qonfess 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

He’s just a little goofy, even the ADL tweeted out it wasn’t a Nazi gesture

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– LindyLee 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

You can tell him that President Trump has authorized Elon to cut Government Jobs and Spending and People are worried and fearful that their financial security and self identification will be taken away. It makes them look for any sign or verbiage that reinforces their belief that the one taking away those things is bad/evil etc. I have a grown son that is very liberally indoctrinated and I have been spoon feeding him truths. He is not stupid, Medical Doctor who does coding for fun. Good Luck and God Bless.

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– photobuf 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

If that is all it took for your son to turn, he was never MAGA in the first place! He will have to take more red pills in the future!

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– Kensethfan2 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

A picture only captures a millisecond of movement which can easily be taken out of context. Footage of someone blinking can be frozen at just the right time to make them appear to be sleeping, just as an example. Remember the saga of Nick Sandman and the Native American? Close-up and short clip vs longer and wider views changed the whole narrative and he won major $$$ in his lawsuits.

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– Dysnomia 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Well, first off, please let your son know not all MAGA supporters necessarily favor Elon. I myself am among this minority. In fact, I’d go so far as to say that not only do I not trust him, I am VERY suspicious of him and his motives. Plus he acts like a moron on stage. Yesterday was not the first time he has made a spectacle of himself. Just…cringe. 🫢 He’s like the weirdo kid in class who just can’t help but play the court jester when given the limelight. That said, I did not interpret Elon’s awkward gesture yesterday as a Nazi salute. To me it just seemed like a wannabe- popular geek’s impulsive and even desperate attempt to gain acceptance from the crowd. Also, last night I saw and downloaded a meme that showed Kamala making a similar gesture on top, and Elon’s on the bottom. I even downloaded the image but IDK how to post it here. Perhaps you can search for it because it does visually convey an important message that not every gesture is meant as a signal or symbol, and that we the public can interpret such gestures as though they do, interpreting, of course, through our own biases. Basically, your son needs to learn how to think logically. I mean as much as I do not like or trust Elon, I hardly think even he would be so stupid as to do a Nazi salute, even if he were one.

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– DBEMarine 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Read him the definition of a cult. We aren't that at all.

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– ToxicLibertyism 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

It's only us deplorable Q-tards who are the cultists. But it's ok to be a Q-Tard because we are mostly peaceful tards.

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– heavyD 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Sounds like a good case of cranial rectumitise. Try a removal technique. Sometimes they pop out with a good blow to the lower stomach area.

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– atarikee 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Show him the photos of the left doing the same. There are tons of them out there (Killery, Kameltoe, etc)

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– we_let_this_happen 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

show him this https://x.com/the_jefferymead/status/1881514166936383809?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1881514166936383809%7Ctwgr%5E3f064846ab42c740fda1c4a7496650217851474c%7Ctwcon%5Es1_c10&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fgreatawakening.win%2Fp%2F19AKArjYCT%2Fjust-for-the-record-it-was-not-a%2Fc%2F , tell him to get married and get into one of those christian cults, not the lib cult.

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– TheWitnessOfCacti 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Take him to a strip club and buy him a date. It'll be the best thing for him. The best way to become a man is to find out what it's like to be with a woman. They complete us, give us children, nurcher them and you, help make you home, and give you something to protect. It's that simple. We are wired for this purpose.

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– Checkmate [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

He has a 17 month old daughter. Lives with her and his gf and been at his job for almost 2 yrs. He's an intelligent, grounded young man. He(because of me)knows who Jordan Maxwell is and is very intelligent. His gf is liberal and has a very big influence on him(and we were all 19-we know why. You have to get along to get ANY). It's an uphill battle for me that has to be handled delicatley or I could push them away but, it's one I'm not giving up on. Thanks fren.

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– WezeBWoke 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Consider finding some Jordan Peterson videos where he talks about young people in the woke agenda. He does it very tenderly, but very effectively in his following is primarily under 30 years old.

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– TheHumanPrimer 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Easy... move him to California.

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– supertootsday 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

The hand gesture by Musk, even if with no nefarious intent, was tone deaf to say the least, from one the "smartest" men in the world. He is either not actually very smart, or he knows exactly what he was doing.

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– supertootsday 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

I see there are some folks that follow blindly in here. Everyone should be scrutinized.

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– Checkmate [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I understand that but, I believe we must scrutinize each incident equally. I believe that is the only way to not fall back into what we are working our way out of.

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– keeptherepublic1776 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Trump has to shut down the media. The change that Obama made about propaganda? Can he reverse that?

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– Trumpette1 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I think he pretty much has and it is truly dead. I’m not worried. Like everything else this will fall by the wayside. NCSWIC

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– keeptherepublic1776 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Same. That's why the last 4 yrs were so important

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