Maybe some 5D angle I’m not seeing but I see so many ways is will be scammed and abused by foreigners who already are scamming the immigration system. I doubt it will create many American jobs. Just jobs for more invaders.
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We already have EB-5 visa system which is completely abused. They just need to "invest" $800K to $1 mil in specifically authorized rural areas. This allows the bureaucrats to decide where this money goes and they can tale kickbacks to approve these visas. The whole thing is corrupt.
What Trump did was to take away the whole subjective decision making from the equation and make the visa 5x more expensive, but since its flat price the money becomes very easily accountable.
Also since they are already paying 5 mil without any subjectivity, it takes away the incentives for bribery or corruption.
Its genius. BTW other countries already do it.
Well it's better than the EB-5, that's for certain.
But selling citizenship is selling out the citizens' patrimony. It'd be better to sponsor citizens who want to start businesses and grow the talent without selling out.
I've seen plenty of neighborhoods gentrified with an influx of rich foreigners who make it unaffordable for the locals and end up changing the culture. The idea that someone who has gotten rich by leveraging the corrupt system that they're coming from (and if it's not corrupt, why would they want to come here?) will come here without eventually corrupting our system as part of their way of life is a dangerous one.
Its not "selling citizenship". Its selling "pathway to citizenship". There are plenty more steps before they can become citizens.
IDK, once on the path they might forget to stay on the path and head for the bushes. A millionaire in America can disappear pretty easily. For a third world millionaire it would be very easy.
Why would they need to disappear? They would be legal residents and the money for the Gold Card would be collected up front. This program will replace the corrupt EB-5 program and take away the incentive to scam the system and at 5 times the cost and it's collected up front.
Same difference IMO. If they are on the path and have the money they will get it.
I live surrounded by beautiful lakes. my grandparents and many other locals families used to own homes and cottages around them, it wasn't really that expensive. Now it's all foreigners and out of state people that own it all. Prices are $10k/foot of lakefront property. I think a tax plan that gives locals an exemption on paying property taxes while increasing them for these invaders would be a good start. The Hawaiians have the same thing going on only worse. I'd love to hear how they would suggest changing it also.
Yeah, that's exactly the types of situation I'm referring to.
Great idea. If a foreigner wants to "own" US land/property then said foreigner can pay for all our infrastructure.
i disagree. It is going to bring money into the USA really fast, not just through the sale of the card.
I see gold cards coming in (or consortium of migrants pooling money together to sponsor one member to act as the front man) then turning around sponsoring other work visas and importing infinity Indians etc. like they already do. Americans need not apply.
I think that there is quite a bit of vetting planned before the GCs are issued. So it was said during the Oval office announement.
Plus, any imported labor will have to be done legally, as well, I expect. The new companies will need native English speakers in any case, so there will be plenty jobs to go around.
Just follow the rules, is all.
Vetting?
Haha. The vetting done is ridiculously full of holes. Hard to fix because some foreign paperwork and credentials is easy to forge.
At the moment it is. Give it time.
Well its $5M more than taking in people who charge us $100K per year for food and substinence. I'd say a good deal.
"turning a liability into an asset is dumb"
OP
It’s turning one liability into another. Foreign Corporate overlords cheer!
cool it with the anti Semitism
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Do the math 1 million Gold cards= 5 trillion dollars
And there are 58 million millionaires in the world.
Millionaires and above want to bail on the UK for freedom.
You made me hurt myself due to my massive eye roll reading your post headline.
Can't a honky just enjoy watchin' somebody stand on the table and piss in their punchbowl without explainin' the joke ;)
Gold chain migration en sheeeeet
Um, sure.🤪
Currently to qualify for an EB-5 visa, applicants must meet the following requirements: Investment: Invest at least $1,050,000 in a U.S. business, or $800,000 in a Targeted Employment Area (TEA) Job creation: Create at least 10 full-time jobs for U.S. workers within two years.
EB-5 visa’s aren't a new thing, Trump just wants to fix them so they at least have some actual merit. I want every illegal deported, every last damned one and retract birth right citizenship for the last 35 years!
No, retract it back to the last mass amnesty. And if you are a green card holder who paid to get your Naturalization certificate, you shouldn't be exempt either. And if you ever had ANY public assistance e.g. food stamps, cash assistance or Medicaid you're outta here on the next boat!
That would work too, we just want at least 24 -35 million outta here👍🇺🇸.
Amen!
I’d say 80% of legals are also illegal because scammed frauds their way in which is a deportable offense.
And we should also hold accountable those who have “sponsored “ illegals but left taxpayers holding the cost to pay their way. Every church,EVERY entity that gained from America losing needs to have their assets seized for reimbursement.
Yes. Invasion was done with taxpayer money thru the NGOs.
The 35 year thing will never happen. Some of those folks have wives, kids, and homes almost paid off.
Okay lets make it 45 years👍
Sucks to be them, doesn't it? I'm willing to bet that they got to that point by scamming the Welfare system to foot the bill for their food and medical too!
Their not all bad. We have some Mexican families right here on our street with Trump signs in their front yards. Some of the hardest working and nicest people to know. But these are all people that have been here before the Great Invasion.
How do you scam a payment of 5 million? You either have it or you don't.
Maybe have somebody run it that cares?
And the next administration will keep up the caring? Or run it into the ground like every other system?
I get it. That's been the history. But, IMO, the dims are done. They can no longer destroy good ideas. At some point, we have to turn a page. It's time for actual competent, much smaller government again.
President Trump has a lot of ideas, yet i think this one has a lot of holes in it, like you've described.
Um, I dunno. They say that they will be vetted, so no drug lords or such. If they bring in their spouse, that is 10 million? It is definitely thinking outside the box.
Typically these types of visa include spouse.
Gold chain migration.
You really think the “vetting” system works?
I have a bridge to sell you.
I hate it encourages more wealthy dual citizenship people
Very common these days to offer buy-ins, we had one already, but this new one replaces it. 5 M is probably the highest in the world.
If you have $5million to pay for a gold card, you're not here looking for jobs, lol. You're a millionaire coming to the US to buy more stuff
if they vet folks and keep them honest over some period of time they pay down debt and likely open businesses employing citizens. I also suspect after the $5M income dries up that our immigration system could be based upon payment from immigrants even if they only pay say $10,000 nonrefundable for some kind of pathway to citizenship. only true refugees should be allowed in free of charge. if someone wants to live here badly enough they will be willing to pay a toll
There is the potential to have the entire thing pay off our debt. Can you imagine??
If it pays off our debt then I want zero taxes for anything. Period! We shouldn't have to pay one di.e in any kind of tax with 50 million millionaires coming here, tariffs being charges and the federal government dwindling down to nothing. ZERO TAX BILL!
I could not agree more.
A huge portion of our debt has been in support of a 100 year commie long march insurrection.
All debts in aid of insurrection are null and void. 14th amendment Section 4.
Different path than EB-5. The $5M goes to the government to pay down debt. And they will be closely vetted. EB-5s were often used to buy a Chinese restaurant for a million, meet the time requirement and then sell it to the next Chinese person. Just one example.
“Closely vetted” Haha the vetting system is a joke.
It is now. But not forever.
The timing of the announcement sure sucks. We elected Trump to get foreigners to go the other way...out.
Maybe when the invaders are gone this would be received better by those of us that don't have the millions to buy our way into a country.
Yeah a lot of MAGAs are not having it just like the H1B issue. Many want them deported too as 90% scammed their way in.
I would think if they are willing to put up 5 mill for a gold card why not. Last i heard there were 250000 people in line for this. 🤑🤑
I don't like it either
Many countries do it, we have a lesser and abused version. If someone has the money, and is strictly vetted, why turn it down