Hey, the boss probably told him to get in line for 1 vote. He probably doesnt want to play ball with Trump, who is btw the leader of the party and the country at the moment. Plus he backed DeSantis in the primary who is argueable worse on the isreal issue than trump. Sooooooo i think he may have made a political miscalculation imo and is now grandstanding for nothing. I voted FOR Trump and whatever was gonna happen. If he doent fall in line he deserved whats comming. He could have been a good opposition voice for Deterring AIPAC but now he may not get to voice that at all when hes primaried
I voted for Trump and I support him, but I am never blindly following anyone ever again. We're supposed to be independent thinkers. It isn't wise to just give free rein to any person. We have to watch Trump and hold him accountable just like everyone else. He isn't perfect.
His hair. It is now iconic & not fair to those who are either great thinkers, great lovers, or think they are great lovers.
His supermodel marriage count. While a few of us may (or may not) have dated models, his flagrant showing of his incredibly talented wife is just hard for those trying to get out of the bottom feeder category.
He switched sides. I mean come on, we expect individuals to stick with their decisions & never change their minds ever. If you said you were going to jump the grand canyon, then even if there are 80MPH+ opposing winds, you should stick with that decision regardless of the outcome....
Golden Trump towers in Greenland... We have been waiting since the last time he was in office... Come on man!
Give me a few minutes here, my BA in BS is exhausted after all the winning & waiting through how some people must be shown act.
I don't blindly follow trump. But considering our alternatives and what he been through Trump has earned the benefit of any doubts on what he wants done. Massie needs to be a team player here and he wasn't. Plus he supported DeSantis who a I previously said is arguably worst on Isreal than trump, manning mandir has no clue what's really going on and is just a pain for everyone.
"If anyone but Trump were POTUS right now, you would be supporting Massie."
This is 100% Correct. However Trump IS THE PRESIDENT! And Tom is a congressman (one who i did not vote for) so I am inclined to go with the stance of Trump who I VOTED FOR, and as far as I'm concerned he's a benevolent dictator. (I get we have checks and balances but I'm trying to convey he is the leader and Tom Massie is not) Tom needs to get outta the way or MAGA will go through him. It's a shame because I do think Tom is right but he's made Trump mad now and he's put himself in a position to be lost to us
Nope. We are, vote-wise walking a tightrope on every crucial vote. Trump said he needed this vote to continue the fight and Massie gave him the thumbs down. Nope.
I used to think there were about 20 Reps and Senators who really stood up for and fought for the American people. Now I think it's closer to 5 or 6, and I believe Massie is one of them. I don't know why Trump is going after him, but I want to support these people who haven't sold out the American people for their own interests.
From the Article
“He probably votes with the squad more than any other Republican in the House,” said one frustrated GOP Capitol Hill insider. “He votes no on everything and because Republicans control the House, the squad is also going to be voting no on everything.”
I have to say I'm a little surprised at the blind support of Trump. One of the main lessons we should have learned here is to question everything and everyone.
O k, good enough. However, have you actually looked at what this bill does? Do you understand this is a core part of our movement and strategy?
There is a reason the democrats are blocking it. If this was something that would benefit them, don't you think they would be voting to pass it?
I care about all my frens here, so maybe you should consider this is less about you holding Trump accountable, and more that you just don't want to see one of your idols fall, or at least consider that he screwed up, or might actually be bad.
I've had several of these moments since 2017 and each one sucked.
They need to pass the CR to fund the government through September. The fiscal year 2026 budget will include all of the DOGE cuts, Trump's tax cuts and whatever and will be done through reconciliation. It's the best opportunity to shrink size of the federal government for the first time in 50 years. The democrats want to avoid that and apparently Massie does also.
I don't think we can subscribe the same motives to Massie as the dems just because he and they are voting no. They can both vote no but for different reasons. That doesn't mean they are the same.
His motivations are irrelevant. If he is too short sighted to see what this bill does strategically and forgo his TDS, he is acting no better than the dems.
The only other reason to vote against it is to stop the changes Trump is there to do.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Best case he didn't think it through when he attempted to log jam the whole government restructuring. Mainly because the alternative is, he is in bed with the cabal.
Republicans are just as evil as Democrats and men like Tom perfectly expose that the corruption and outright evil have been funded supported and applauded by both "conservatives" and "liberals."
Voting against the party in this case could result in a loss - we have a slim margin. He may gain by voting his conscience but he wont win anything else except shutting down ICE and DOGE and the dems will be elated.
I'll admit I could be wrong, because I sure have trusted the wrong people in the past. I'm just trying to find the small handful who aren't selling us out. To me, the fact he is the only one who doesn't support AIPAC is a major signal.
I think it's more important to focus against AIPAC right now than to make anything in the US government more or less functional.. Until the idea that all of our lawmakers are somehow more loyal to Israel than the US is addressed, nothing that our lawmakers do actually matters.
Trump can win either way here.. I just really hope Trump and his administration go right back into being puppets of Israel.
Massie is the one who for YEARS has worn a badge on his lapel showing the rapidly increasing cost of our debt. No one else would wear it. He has stood up for years against all this fraud and overspending Doge is finding.
Yes and that pin doesn't fix shit. Massie can't fix it, but Trump can and he's standing on technicalities. A childish Veruca Salt: "Daddy, I want it now!"
No one has EVER tried to fixed the budget like Trump is doing right now. For logistics he has to wait until September. Massie voting against won't fix ANYTHING, which is obviously what he wants.
Hey, the boss probably told him to get in line for 1 vote. He probably doesnt want to play ball with Trump, who is btw the leader of the party and the country at the moment. Plus he backed DeSantis in the primary who is argueable worse on the isreal issue than trump. Sooooooo i think he may have made a political miscalculation imo and is now grandstanding for nothing. I voted FOR Trump and whatever was gonna happen. If he doent fall in line he deserved whats comming. He could have been a good opposition voice for Deterring AIPAC but now he may not get to voice that at all when hes primaried
I voted for Trump and I support him, but I am never blindly following anyone ever again. We're supposed to be independent thinkers. It isn't wise to just give free rein to any person. We have to watch Trump and hold him accountable just like everyone else. He isn't perfect.
And that anyone will include Massie, yes?
Yes, it does.
Okay, let's test it out right now, Elon Musk style.
Name five significant things you dislike about Mr. massie right now.
And you get to list 5 significant things you dislike about Trump.
His hair. It is now iconic & not fair to those who are either great thinkers, great lovers, or think they are great lovers.
His supermodel marriage count. While a few of us may (or may not) have dated models, his flagrant showing of his incredibly talented wife is just hard for those trying to get out of the bottom feeder category.
He switched sides. I mean come on, we expect individuals to stick with their decisions & never change their minds ever. If you said you were going to jump the grand canyon, then even if there are 80MPH+ opposing winds, you should stick with that decision regardless of the outcome....
Golden Trump towers in Greenland... We have been waiting since the last time he was in office... Come on man!
Give me a few minutes here, my BA in BS is exhausted after all the winning & waiting through how some people must be shown act.
I doubt anyone “blindly” follows Massie the same way some do Trump
I don't blindly follow trump. But considering our alternatives and what he been through Trump has earned the benefit of any doubts on what he wants done. Massie needs to be a team player here and he wasn't. Plus he supported DeSantis who a I previously said is arguably worst on Isreal than trump, manning mandir has no clue what's really going on and is just a pain for everyone.
I came in here to write almost exactly the same sentiment.
He is the leader of the party and the head of the Executive Branch of the federal government.
He is NOT a dictator.
Massie wants to push for a RESPONSIBLE budget.
If anyone but Trump were POTUS right now, you would be supporting Massie.
Trump has NOT put forth a RESPONSIBLE budget, and that is a problem.
"If anyone but Trump were POTUS right now, you would be supporting Massie."
This is 100% Correct. However Trump IS THE PRESIDENT! And Tom is a congressman (one who i did not vote for) so I am inclined to go with the stance of Trump who I VOTED FOR, and as far as I'm concerned he's a benevolent dictator. (I get we have checks and balances but I'm trying to convey he is the leader and Tom Massie is not) Tom needs to get outta the way or MAGA will go through him. It's a shame because I do think Tom is right but he's made Trump mad now and he's put himself in a position to be lost to us
I doubt he’ll get primaried. Many of us are team Massie on this issue of spending. Why make DOGE cuts if they are just going to fund it anyways?
Nope. We are, vote-wise walking a tightrope on every crucial vote. Trump said he needed this vote to continue the fight and Massie gave him the thumbs down. Nope.
Doesn't the continuing resolution include funding for all the stuff Doge has found and ended?
Doge can't end anything. They can point out where the waste/fraud is and it is up to the agency heads to cancel it.
I used to think there were about 20 Reps and Senators who really stood up for and fought for the American people. Now I think it's closer to 5 or 6, and I believe Massie is one of them. I don't know why Trump is going after him, but I want to support these people who haven't sold out the American people for their own interests.
He votes with The Squad:
From the Article “He probably votes with the squad more than any other Republican in the House,” said one frustrated GOP Capitol Hill insider. “He votes no on everything and because Republicans control the House, the squad is also going to be voting no on everything.”
I don't think he's voting WITH the Squad, meaning for the same reasons they are voting that way
It's amazing that so many around here seem blinded to that concept.
People who have no principles do not understand those who do.
I have to say I'm a little surprised at the blind support of Trump. One of the main lessons we should have learned here is to question everything and everyone.
He supported DeSantis.
So has Trump.
I don't recall Trump supporting DeSantis over Trump.
O k, good enough. However, have you actually looked at what this bill does? Do you understand this is a core part of our movement and strategy?
There is a reason the democrats are blocking it. If this was something that would benefit them, don't you think they would be voting to pass it?
I care about all my frens here, so maybe you should consider this is less about you holding Trump accountable, and more that you just don't want to see one of your idols fall, or at least consider that he screwed up, or might actually be bad.
I've had several of these moments since 2017 and each one sucked.
Mitch McConnell. That's why.
They need to pass the CR to fund the government through September. The fiscal year 2026 budget will include all of the DOGE cuts, Trump's tax cuts and whatever and will be done through reconciliation. It's the best opportunity to shrink size of the federal government for the first time in 50 years. The democrats want to avoid that and apparently Massie does also.
I don't think we can subscribe the same motives to Massie as the dems just because he and they are voting no. They can both vote no but for different reasons. That doesn't mean they are the same.
His motivations are irrelevant. If he is too short sighted to see what this bill does strategically and forgo his TDS, he is acting no better than the dems.
The only other reason to vote against it is to stop the changes Trump is there to do.
I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. Best case he didn't think it through when he attempted to log jam the whole government restructuring. Mainly because the alternative is, he is in bed with the cabal.
Then maybe the CR should be Conservatively based. It isn't it's another spending not cutting CR
Right.
D's vote no because they want to vote no for anything Trump wants.
Massie votes no because it is not a responsible budget.
So, it is a DUMB take to say Massie is just like the D's.
It will have the same effect. Massie is great but in this case he’s blocking out first snd maybe only chance to get things fixed.
I don't know when Massie put in their vote. Did they vote no after it was clear this was passing?
In this context, that would make his decision easier to accept for many.
To be fair, it would be fantastic if the Republicans would cut half the spending since Democrats are going to refuse to sign anyway.
Yeah this is a horrible take
So, you don't believe in the plan? Q? If Massie supported desanctimonious that's enough to plant a real suspicion that Massie is for real, a plant.
Trump also supports Desantimonious -- now.
RINO's are the smarter dims.
Republicans are just as evil as Democrats and men like Tom perfectly expose that the corruption and outright evil have been funded supported and applauded by both "conservatives" and "liberals."
Voting against the party in this case could result in a loss - we have a slim margin. He may gain by voting his conscience but he wont win anything else except shutting down ICE and DOGE and the dems will be elated.
Why don't you call McConnell while you are at it? Two peas in pod. I called the members of the Freedom Caucus.
Comparing Massie to McConnell is bs
He wouldn't get elected in KY if it weren't for Mitch and his magical China vote business. He owes him. And Trump knows this.
I'll admit I could be wrong, because I sure have trusted the wrong people in the past. I'm just trying to find the small handful who aren't selling us out. To me, the fact he is the only one who doesn't support AIPAC is a major signal.
The ONLY one not supporting AIPAC.
And also the ONLY one Trump has specifically called out.
AIPAC already said, a few days ago, that they want to primary Massie.
Hmm ...
I think it's more important to focus against AIPAC right now than to make anything in the US government more or less functional.. Until the idea that all of our lawmakers are somehow more loyal to Israel than the US is addressed, nothing that our lawmakers do actually matters.
Trump can win either way here.. I just really hope Trump and his administration go right back into being puppets of Israel.
Massie is the one who for YEARS has worn a badge on his lapel showing the rapidly increasing cost of our debt. No one else would wear it. He has stood up for years against all this fraud and overspending Doge is finding.
Doge findings can't be applied until a CR is in place. It's why the Democrats are against it.
Remember what happened to Massie's wife?
https://x.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1899476051312476351
I can't access that link. Can you please tell me what it says?
She mysteriously died. "Rhonda Massie's death is described only as sudden and unexpected" and we've never heard anything more.
Thanks. But are you saying he had something to do with it?
Yes and that pin doesn't fix shit. Massie can't fix it, but Trump can and he's standing on technicalities. A childish Veruca Salt: "Daddy, I want it now!"
No one has EVER tried to fixed the budget like Trump is doing right now. For logistics he has to wait until September. Massie voting against won't fix ANYTHING, which is obviously what he wants.
He needs to vote with Trump.