I think it's not that pointing out that a Jewish person has done something illegal or evil that people would downvote, but the impression that they are being targeted based on their ethnicity/religion.
I, personally, don't think Jewish people are any more at fault of misdeeds as any other person.
If I went around, and found every Christian who has ever done something heinous or been involved in some sort of cover up or conspiracy and used that as evidence that all Christians (or some specific branch of Christianity) are evil or untrustworthy, I'm pretty confident that I would get called out for attacking Christians.
The same if I went around doing the same thing based on people who did horrible things and were white.
I feel like that's what people are doing with this type of thing. So if I wouldn't approve of doing that to Christians or white people, why would I approve of it being done to Jewish people?
There is no one race or ethnicity or religion that doesn't have a metric shit ton of horrible people. There isn't one race or ethnicity or religion that doesn't have plenty of wonderful people.
The biblical Israelites and the modern state of Israel are not the same. The people who actually come from what was know as the Kingdom of Khazaria are jewish converts and share no DNA with the actual Hebrews/Israelites.
And on the flip side: Jesus was from Galilee, so was not seen as a 'Jew' as we understand so today.
Furthermore, the Palestinians have genetic ties to the people who lived around Christ's time. They are the Semites - which makes the whole thing very silly.
You mean all that Jesus Born in a manger in Bethlehem is a lie ? Isn't that a bit convenient for getting some off the hook ?
"And thou Bethlehem Ephrathah art little to be among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me, that shall be the ruler in Israel: whose goings forth have been from the beginning and from everlasting." ---Micah 5:2 --1599 Geneva
I honestly don't understand the point to these types of responses.
Are you trying to say that "modern day Jews" don't have any rights because they're not the same genetically as the original Israelites?
I just honestly don't know where you're going with this.
But, anyway, just like how modern Christians aren't direct descendants of the first Christians in terms of DNA—since Christianity has spread across the world and includes many different cultures and ethnic groups—Jewish identity is also about faith, culture, and shared history, not just DNA. The fact that some Jewish people may have different ancestral backgrounds doesn't negate their connection to the Jewish faith and tradition. Faith communities evolve over time, and their identity is shaped by both religious belief and shared experiences, not just by biological lineage.
Not all Jewish people are biologically from the same group. Specifically, converts. Not all Jewish people from the same biological origin are religious.
That's why I mentioned both ethnicity and religion in my posts. All Jewish people aren't necessarily both genetically Jewish and religious.
But based on comments I've read around here, about religious practices like metzitzah b’peh and physical attributes commonly associated with Jewish people (nose shape and size), then they're definitely being targeted based on either their religion or their ethnicity, no matter if that ethnicity is genetically the same as the original Israelites or not.
What you wrote isn't as clear as you believe it to be.
Do jewish people consider themselves a religion or a race?
Depends on the person. Some Jewish people are converts, so they don't have the same ethnic background as others. Some Jewish people aren't religious, but are born into Jewish families and consider themselves ethnically and culturally Jewish.
It's not an either/or or all or nothing thing. Being Jewish is not only a religion or only an ethnicity or only a culture. It's a combination of all of that.
Help me understand please. So someone can convert and be identified as Gods chosen? I would think there is a very big difference. And I'm not dooming you I am just trying to understand your point fren.
Do you think that people have to have a specific genetic profile in order to be part of a community or religion?
Because it seems like you don't understand religious converts.
Quick question. If someone from South Korea, who is genetically from people who have been in that area for thousands of years converts to Christianity, do you think they aren't "true Christians"?
What about Christians now, who are genetically from people in the UK and Western Europe? Are they Christians? Because they are very different from the original Christians of the Bible. Who were Jewish, genetically.
Sure. The whole "God's Chosen" is just a label people put on themselves or others.
Edited to add: Or do you think God himself is up there, checking that everyone has a specific genetic profile to determine whether or not they meet His criteria for being "chosen"?
My best friend is Jewish and I have no doubts about them or their ethics. But I think what people are pointing out more here is that a lot of the top level conspirators do seem to belong to one particular religion. I think it's less that all Jewish people are bad (obviously silly, there are lots of great Jewish people) and more that the top conspirators all seem to belong to the same club and that club seems to stick to one religion.
lol of course I know about confirmation bias. And I just said I FULLY believe there are lots of great Jewish people. Personally, I generally find that on average, I have much more in common with your average Jewish person than your average Christian. I find on average Jewish people tend to share more interests and outlooks with me and are generally very interesting conversationalists.
But leaving personal preferences aside, I am also going to stand by my assertion that when you look at top conspirators, this one religion is overrepresented. I do NOT think this is due to a moral failing in the religion. I just think it's the religion the conspirator club often happens to use (or pretends to use as cover, I don't actually think the conspirators are what you'd call "god fearing monotheists"). If you are concerned about confirmation bias Let's talk about numbers then. Google tells me "Globally, the Jewish population is estimated to be around 0.2% of the world's population." What are the odds that this extremely small population happens to encapsulate Weinstein, Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, George Soros, the pizza gate guy, the Rothchildes, is massively overrepresented in the liberal media, the Frankfurt school,, Marx, Hollywood, congress etc etc etc
Confirmation bias doesn't mean that you think there aren't any "great Jewish people".
It means that you're paying more attention to things that point out that Jewish people are involved in misdeeds.
You're taking the global percentage of Jewish people and applying that to famous people in the USA/Canada and Israel, for the most part.
There are myriad reasons why Jewish people make up a (relatively) large percentage of people in finance, politics, Hollywood, and the media.
Historically, one of the main reasons Jewish people are prominent in finance is because they weren't allowed to own land. And since Christians weren't allowed (at certain times and in certain places) to charge interest on loans (thus, few Christian bankers) banking was one of the ways Jewish people could make money and support their families.
When Jewish people were excluded from joining other (predominantly Christian) social circles (country clubs, hotels, universities, etc...), they created their own networks and industries. Again, finance is one of those industries. Due to when and where the film industry in the US was established, it became yet another industry that had a heavy Jewish population.
Traditionally, Judaism has placed a high value on things like education and debate. Because of those values, high profile careers like medicine, law, and academia have been favored by Jewish people.
It's not that bad things are more likely to be done by Jewish people. It's that Jewish people are historically more likely to be involved in highly visible careers (which means it's likely anything they do will become public knowledge) and confirmation bias makes people think the fact that they're Jewish is the reason they're doing bad things.
If you really want to narrow down the common denominator that's shared by all the people you've listed, it's wealth.
But I don't see it being said that insanely rich people are evil or being criticized for doing bad things when they're rich, or that money is a bad thing. Especially considering how well regarded Trump, Musk, Wilbur Ross, Linda McMahon and all the other high networth people in Trump's circle are.
I fully expect at this point that the Exec Producer of that film Stew Peters, renowned conspiracy firebrand, is a Mossad/CIA operative running point on inversion and limited hangout strategic psyops and that that film is a vehicle for such deception… Such is the scale and severity of the deceit and destruction we are up against…
It was only a few years ago that the word Naive had two dots on the I. I remember looking it up and striping the doubledotted I, beause I didn't want to submit to the single dot.
Just now, I went to do that, and the dictionaries have all removed the double dot.
So I suppose we will pronounce it naive, to rhyme with crave, (not Nah-eeve).
Not being lazy at all. That movie simply hits valid data points, a useful primer for normies and naive alike. Not that you need it because I suspect you know exactly what’s up, that the disproportionate over-representation of ethno-supremacist, extremist, religious cultism throughout human endeavour, history and captured institutions has run its course. The Great Awakening writ large is a people waking up to its enslavement, impoverishment, poisoning, corruption, destruction and slaughter. Beware, when the Saxon begins to hate…
Ok, unpopular opinion coming.
I think it's not that pointing out that a Jewish person has done something illegal or evil that people would downvote, but the impression that they are being targeted based on their ethnicity/religion.
I, personally, don't think Jewish people are any more at fault of misdeeds as any other person.
If I went around, and found every Christian who has ever done something heinous or been involved in some sort of cover up or conspiracy and used that as evidence that all Christians (or some specific branch of Christianity) are evil or untrustworthy, I'm pretty confident that I would get called out for attacking Christians.
The same if I went around doing the same thing based on people who did horrible things and were white.
I feel like that's what people are doing with this type of thing. So if I wouldn't approve of doing that to Christians or white people, why would I approve of it being done to Jewish people?
There is no one race or ethnicity or religion that doesn't have a metric shit ton of horrible people. There isn't one race or ethnicity or religion that doesn't have plenty of wonderful people.
Just...don't be hypocrites.
The biblical Israelites and the modern state of Israel are not the same. The people who actually come from what was know as the Kingdom of Khazaria are jewish converts and share no DNA with the actual Hebrews/Israelites.
When i see it posted that way my mind immediately provides the askanazi.
And on the flip side: Jesus was from Galilee, so was not seen as a 'Jew' as we understand so today.
Furthermore, the Palestinians have genetic ties to the people who lived around Christ's time. They are the Semites - which makes the whole thing very silly.
You mean all that Jesus Born in a manger in Bethlehem is a lie ? Isn't that a bit convenient for getting some off the hook ?
"And thou Bethlehem Ephrathah art little to be among the thousands of Judah, yet out of thee shall he come forth unto me, that shall be the ruler in Israel: whose goings forth have been from the beginning and from everlasting." ---Micah 5:2 --1599 Geneva
Well they were told to go to Bethlehem, despite Mary's condition.
thx fren
So?
I honestly don't understand the point to these types of responses.
Are you trying to say that "modern day Jews" don't have any rights because they're not the same genetically as the original Israelites?
I just honestly don't know where you're going with this.
But, anyway, just like how modern Christians aren't direct descendants of the first Christians in terms of DNA—since Christianity has spread across the world and includes many different cultures and ethnic groups—Jewish identity is also about faith, culture, and shared history, not just DNA. The fact that some Jewish people may have different ancestral backgrounds doesn't negate their connection to the Jewish faith and tradition. Faith communities evolve over time, and their identity is shaped by both religious belief and shared experiences, not just by biological lineage.
Not all Jewish people are biologically from the same group. Specifically, converts. Not all Jewish people from the same biological origin are religious.
That's why I mentioned both ethnicity and religion in my posts. All Jewish people aren't necessarily both genetically Jewish and religious.
But based on comments I've read around here, about religious practices like metzitzah b’peh and physical attributes commonly associated with Jewish people (nose shape and size), then they're definitely being targeted based on either their religion or their ethnicity, no matter if that ethnicity is genetically the same as the original Israelites or not.
"Are you trying to say that "modern day Jews" don't have any rights because they're not the same genetically as the original Israelites?"
No, if I was trying to say that I would have typed it. What I wrote is what I am saying.
Do jewish people consider themselves a religion or a race?
What you wrote isn't as clear as you believe it to be.
Depends on the person. Some Jewish people are converts, so they don't have the same ethnic background as others. Some Jewish people aren't religious, but are born into Jewish families and consider themselves ethnically and culturally Jewish.
It's not an either/or or all or nothing thing. Being Jewish is not only a religion or only an ethnicity or only a culture. It's a combination of all of that.
Yeah no one cares, dude. There is such a a thing as a "convert."
And Ashkenazi or not, it's not like God is going to condemn an entire race of humans based on having the "wrong" Jewish bloodline, so why are we.
I think only the non believers in Christ are condemned, regardless of race or whatever.
Thank you!
Help me understand please. So someone can convert and be identified as Gods chosen? I would think there is a very big difference. And I'm not dooming you I am just trying to understand your point fren.
Do you think that people have to have a specific genetic profile in order to be part of a community or religion?
Because it seems like you don't understand religious converts.
Quick question. If someone from South Korea, who is genetically from people who have been in that area for thousands of years converts to Christianity, do you think they aren't "true Christians"?
What about Christians now, who are genetically from people in the UK and Western Europe? Are they Christians? Because they are very different from the original Christians of the Bible. Who were Jewish, genetically.
Sure. The whole "God's Chosen" is just a label people put on themselves or others.
Edited to add: Or do you think God himself is up there, checking that everyone has a specific genetic profile to determine whether or not they meet His criteria for being "chosen"?
My best friend is Jewish and I have no doubts about them or their ethics. But I think what people are pointing out more here is that a lot of the top level conspirators do seem to belong to one particular religion. I think it's less that all Jewish people are bad (obviously silly, there are lots of great Jewish people) and more that the top conspirators all seem to belong to the same club and that club seems to stick to one religion.
Sure it seems that way if only one religion/ethnicity is consistently highlighted for such things.
Do you think because it's not consistently pointed out that white Christians are at the head of nefarious dealings that there aren't that many?
Are you familiar with the term "confirmation bias"?
lol of course I know about confirmation bias. And I just said I FULLY believe there are lots of great Jewish people. Personally, I generally find that on average, I have much more in common with your average Jewish person than your average Christian. I find on average Jewish people tend to share more interests and outlooks with me and are generally very interesting conversationalists.
But leaving personal preferences aside, I am also going to stand by my assertion that when you look at top conspirators, this one religion is overrepresented. I do NOT think this is due to a moral failing in the religion. I just think it's the religion the conspirator club often happens to use (or pretends to use as cover, I don't actually think the conspirators are what you'd call "god fearing monotheists"). If you are concerned about confirmation bias Let's talk about numbers then. Google tells me "Globally, the Jewish population is estimated to be around 0.2% of the world's population." What are the odds that this extremely small population happens to encapsulate Weinstein, Epstein, Ghislane Maxwell, George Soros, the pizza gate guy, the Rothchildes, is massively overrepresented in the liberal media, the Frankfurt school,, Marx, Hollywood, congress etc etc etc
Confirmation bias doesn't mean that you think there aren't any "great Jewish people".
It means that you're paying more attention to things that point out that Jewish people are involved in misdeeds.
You're taking the global percentage of Jewish people and applying that to famous people in the USA/Canada and Israel, for the most part.
There are myriad reasons why Jewish people make up a (relatively) large percentage of people in finance, politics, Hollywood, and the media.
Historically, one of the main reasons Jewish people are prominent in finance is because they weren't allowed to own land. And since Christians weren't allowed (at certain times and in certain places) to charge interest on loans (thus, few Christian bankers) banking was one of the ways Jewish people could make money and support their families.
When Jewish people were excluded from joining other (predominantly Christian) social circles (country clubs, hotels, universities, etc...), they created their own networks and industries. Again, finance is one of those industries. Due to when and where the film industry in the US was established, it became yet another industry that had a heavy Jewish population.
Traditionally, Judaism has placed a high value on things like education and debate. Because of those values, high profile careers like medicine, law, and academia have been favored by Jewish people.
It's not that bad things are more likely to be done by Jewish people. It's that Jewish people are historically more likely to be involved in highly visible careers (which means it's likely anything they do will become public knowledge) and confirmation bias makes people think the fact that they're Jewish is the reason they're doing bad things.
If you really want to narrow down the common denominator that's shared by all the people you've listed, it's wealth.
But I don't see it being said that insanely rich people are evil or being criticized for doing bad things when they're rich, or that money is a bad thing. Especially considering how well regarded Trump, Musk, Wilbur Ross, Linda McMahon and all the other high networth people in Trump's circle are.
You’re either naive, deflecting or in denial.
This’ll get you started…
https://rumble.com/v5tqte2-occupied-world-premiere-warning-sensitive-content-viewer-discretion-is-advi.html
I fully expect at this point that the Exec Producer of that film Stew Peters, renowned conspiracy firebrand, is a Mossad/CIA operative running point on inversion and limited hangout strategic psyops and that that film is a vehicle for such deception… Such is the scale and severity of the deceit and destruction we are up against…
No, don't be lazy and foist it off on some video.
Tell me, in your own words, how I'm naive, deflecting (what, exactly) or in denial about.
Sidebar:
It was only a few years ago that the word Naive had two dots on the I. I remember looking it up and striping the doubledotted I, beause I didn't want to submit to the single dot.
Just now, I went to do that, and the dictionaries have all removed the double dot.
So I suppose we will pronounce it naive, to rhyme with crave, (not Nah-eeve).
Not being lazy at all. That movie simply hits valid data points, a useful primer for normies and naive alike. Not that you need it because I suspect you know exactly what’s up, that the disproportionate over-representation of ethno-supremacist, extremist, religious cultism throughout human endeavour, history and captured institutions has run its course. The Great Awakening writ large is a people waking up to its enslavement, impoverishment, poisoning, corruption, destruction and slaughter. Beware, when the Saxon begins to hate…
Uh huh