I ONLY do business with a "SMALL" beef business where I live...they even have "fresh" eggs and buy everything on Sunday!!!!!! EL YUMMO for the flavor and NO STEROIDS!!!!
I'm liking the Jersey Giant chickens ---- gentle rooster.
Although slower growing they seem perfect for backyard chickens. Healthy, kid friendly, good layers, good hatch. One of the hens comes up to me like a buddy. Mine are black/dark colored, so it helps them hide from predators.
Good point I hear that chicken folk like it when ravens hang around because the hawks don't want confontations with them. So must be same deal with dark color hens. I'm going to remember about the jersey giants.
Have 17 Delawares in the incubator ready to peep on Easter. Can't get meat chickens from local hatchery for a few months. Glad I kept a few back for egg layers in case this happened.
Nice, we get free eggs from my daughter's best friend their hens lay more than they can, the shells are so thick I have to use both hands to crack them.
When her hens aren't laying we buy from a farmer, it's well worth it.
This is exactly how we buy our beef now. 2 miles down the road it's raised and butchered. Family owned. Cash down and the rest at pick up in June. Best beef I've ever eaten. Vacuum sealed packaging so no freezer burn for a very long time.
Absolutely! We will be picking up our 1/4 cow in a couple weeks. I can’t believe it’s our third time doing this. I’d love to find a pork and chicken supplier, but we mostly eat beef. I’ve always drowned my steak in ketchup and Worcestershire, now it’s salt & butter only, the difference in taste is amazing.
Oregano, salt and pepper rub is my favorite. Spray a little olive oil on it to get it to stay, then lay it on the grill. Hot fire! Black and blue - even chuck roast is great that way.
I’ve heard it’s great in butter. I’ve never liked the taste of rosemary but love the scent. It’s great in a bath, wrap the sprigs in cheese cloth. I eat carnivore and when I sometimes add plants I’m having reactions either burns my mouth or gives a terrible stomach ache.
American cattle rancher exposing that they’ve all been sold out, they’re at risk of being run out of business and your meat is being imported
4 large mega corporations now own 85% of the entire industry
2 of them are foreign owned
1 of them is Chinese
“50% or more of the beef processing be controlled by countries outside of the US. It comes down to our own food source security.”
“We used to make fair amount of return on my cattle, but the industry has changed dramatically with the government allowing the consolidation of the meat processing business.
4 companies, giant companies got together and decided to roll that up, consolidate it, and that's just business. But when we get on the other side of it and we take into account the ramifications on our national economic health. It has a very detrimental effect.
Our government allowed 2 giant companies controlled by foreign governments to come in and acquire.
One of them is controlled by the Chinese, and they bought Smithville out of North Carolina. And the other one was a Brazilian company that came in and bought up one of the other major players.
So now we have an industry, 85% of it actually has been consolidated and rolled up and controlled by 4 companies. Four companies now are dictating who gets what, where, and when. Do you see?
But nobody thought our government would let 50% or more of the beef processing be controlled by countries outside of the US. It comes down to our own food source security.
The geopolitical situation we find ourselves in, why would we want to have an antagonist on 25% of our meat processing? It makes no sense at all.”
We need sensible/affordable (maybe even no) regulations on small slaughterhouses. Just let them run ----- shut them down if they fuckup and sell bad meat.
Pigs used to be good for small family farms. Till they were undercut and put out of business by Smithfield etc. Now former pig raisers have to drive truck for Smithfield . . .
WHY was that allowed to happen?? For CHINA to purchase a pork production and processing monopoly, in our country?!? Not just a few here and there, but become a monopoly!
Lots of someones were asleep at the switch -- or complicit??
Same way they got everything. They flooded the market with cheap goods and bought the farms when pork farmers couldn't compete. Used Walmart's business model, which put mom and pop stores out of business.
This is the reason Trump never gives up placing the blame for the fix we are in in the laps of his predecessors, for decades of stupidity.
China can't produce enough pork (the majority of meat they eat) for the huge amount of people they have so they started buying it internationally. I assume they money-whipped everyone from the farms/plants to CONgress to the regulatory agencies so they could buy Smithfield (and others) and secure a food supply for their people. I don't think they cared how much it cost, and our people were stupid enough to sell out for a quick buck without thinking about the long-term effects to America. Those people are the ones who should have to eat ze bugs.
That's fair. I meant "cashed out". I was fighting in my head with using "sold the farm" but it reminded me too much of "bought the farm". I chose wrong...
I however didn't know why so many farmers sold. I know a lot sell because of the taxes when the parents/grandparents die and the kids/parents can't afford to pay the taxes. I don't know squat about the prices on ag or animals.
Edit - meant to add this - when I said "our people" I was talking about all the old individual people that owned the brands and sold them to Smithfield. The first 1 or 2 I get - they didn't see the big picture yet, but to continue to have other brands sell to them as well just creates a huge monopoly. Then China bought it and made it even worse.
I posted a list of meat brands owned by Smithfield (owned by China) a couple of years ago. It may have changed a little since then, but here is what Grok says is still owned by them:
Smithfield (core brand, offering bacon, ham, sausage, ribs, and more)
Eckrich (sausages, deli meats, and smoked meats)
Nathan’s Famous (hot dogs and other packaged meats)
Farmland (pork products including bacon, sausage, and ribs)
Armour (hot dogs, lunch meats, and other packaged meats)
Farmer John (California-based pork products, including sausages and bacon)
Carando (Italian-style deli meats, dry sausages, and hams)
Cook’s (hams, particularly smoked and spiral-sliced varieties)
Curly’s (BBQ and smoked meats, ready-to-eat products)
Gwaltney (bacon, hot dogs, and sausages)
John Morrell (hot dogs, bacon, and lunch meats)
Kretschmar (premium deli meats and sausages)
Margherita (Italian-inspired deli meats and sausages)
Healthy Ones (lower-fat and lower-sodium deli meats)
Pure Farmland (plant-based meat alternatives, such as soy burgers and meatballs)
They used to have a deal with Cracker Barrel to provide them lunch meat to sell in their market areas but there was some sort of a suit between Smithfield, Kraft, and John Morrell (the brand they used) so that deal was killed.
I heard our beef get shipped out of the country, processed and shipped back. Can't remember where I heard that. We also export millions of tons for other countries to eat as well. Meanwhile the prices of meat are out the roof.
All kinds of businesses you thought were good old American "blue chip" companies are now foreign owned....
And ports....
And toll roads....
And...and...and...
It's COMPLETELY f'd up.
Talk about selling your grandkids down the river so you can maintain your status with limited kerfuffle...You're looking at it.
They either did a "reverse mortgage" thing - getting dividends to sell out...and/or outsourced all real production overseas to keep the profit margins up - meanwhile completely HOLLOWING OUT the company.
This is why I am glad Trump is encouraging and stimulating foreign investment here - not because it'll be more of the same, but because there's PLENTY of people out of work and by the grace of God, nearly out on the streets. It's been tough for a lot of folks...
People need jobs. Things suck right now. I can't even imagine kameltoe and veep creep running point...Let's take a moment to be thankful for at least that today.
this is important to undo! So ban mega-corporations, at least in agriculture. They seem to blob and make society worse than better. Competition is not sin, John D. Rockefeller is quoted as to having declared it is. https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/john-d-rockefeller-quotes
Brazil I am less concerned than China, but sill, Brazil would have paid for things with notes, not gold and silver, so I’d call the sales of the processing centers “ non-sales” and do recissions of all the sales.
I've been thinking about buying some beef calves or feeders as I have excess hay and pasture. Been pretty disappointed in how high the prices are. Up to $3.40/lb for feeders and 100lb calves are $15/lb. With what a finished cow brings, there isn't obvious$ to be made right now
Grass fed ----- grass finished beef ---- local slaughter at about 700lbs on the hoof
FUCK THE MEAT PACKING INDUSTRY ----- FAFO GUYS
The underground network is building ---- cash only
Smithfield owns majority of pork and bacon. Owned by Chyna
Replacing pig farms with pig towers.
I ONLY do business with a "SMALL" beef business where I live...they even have "fresh" eggs and buy everything on Sunday!!!!!! EL YUMMO for the flavor and NO STEROIDS!!!!
I just hatched some new egg factories.
I'm liking the Jersey Giant chickens ---- gentle rooster.
Although slower growing they seem perfect for backyard chickens. Healthy, kid friendly, good layers, good hatch. One of the hens comes up to me like a buddy. Mine are black/dark colored, so it helps them hide from predators.
Good point I hear that chicken folk like it when ravens hang around because the hawks don't want confontations with them. So must be same deal with dark color hens. I'm going to remember about the jersey giants.
The Jersey Giants are supposedly healthier, at full size, than other heavy meat birds but they are slow growing.
My rooster is plenty fertile. He is still young and about 2 feet tall.
you mentioned 'meat birds'...do you know anything about sandhill cranes? I saw a comment on FB saying they're the 'sirloin of the sky' 🤔
Some grass grazing geese are supposedly like beef.
Ostrich meat is just like lean beef. They would be an expensive, pain in the ass to raise.
I tried ostrich once at a restaurant. You are right, it's like lean beef. Quite good.
Have 17 Delawares in the incubator ready to peep on Easter. Can't get meat chickens from local hatchery for a few months. Glad I kept a few back for egg layers in case this happened.
Nice, we get free eggs from my daughter's best friend their hens lay more than they can, the shells are so thick I have to use both hands to crack them. When her hens aren't laying we buy from a farmer, it's well worth it.
This is exactly how we buy our beef now. 2 miles down the road it's raised and butchered. Family owned. Cash down and the rest at pick up in June. Best beef I've ever eaten. Vacuum sealed packaging so no freezer burn for a very long time.
Absolutely! We will be picking up our 1/4 cow in a couple weeks. I can’t believe it’s our third time doing this. I’d love to find a pork and chicken supplier, but we mostly eat beef. I’ve always drowned my steak in ketchup and Worcestershire, now it’s salt & butter only, the difference in taste is amazing.
Oregano, salt and pepper rub is my favorite. Spray a little olive oil on it to get it to stay, then lay it on the grill. Hot fire! Black and blue - even chuck roast is great that way.
Add a sprig of fresh rosemary to the butter while cooking. It adds great flavor.
I’ve heard it’s great in butter. I’ve never liked the taste of rosemary but love the scent. It’s great in a bath, wrap the sprigs in cheese cloth. I eat carnivore and when I sometimes add plants I’m having reactions either burns my mouth or gives a terrible stomach ache.
I get mine that way too.
Post -
American cattle rancher exposing that they’ve all been sold out, they’re at risk of being run out of business and your meat is being imported
“50% or more of the beef processing be controlled by countries outside of the US. It comes down to our own food source security.”
“We used to make fair amount of return on my cattle, but the industry has changed dramatically with the government allowing the consolidation of the meat processing business.
4 companies, giant companies got together and decided to roll that up, consolidate it, and that's just business. But when we get on the other side of it and we take into account the ramifications on our national economic health. It has a very detrimental effect.
Our government allowed 2 giant companies controlled by foreign governments to come in and acquire.
One of them is controlled by the Chinese, and they bought Smithville out of North Carolina. And the other one was a Brazilian company that came in and bought up one of the other major players.
So now we have an industry, 85% of it actually has been consolidated and rolled up and controlled by 4 companies. Four companies now are dictating who gets what, where, and when. Do you see?
But nobody thought our government would let 50% or more of the beef processing be controlled by countries outside of the US. It comes down to our own food source security.
The geopolitical situation we find ourselves in, why would we want to have an antagonist on 25% of our meat processing? It makes no sense at all.”
https://x.com/WallStreetApes/status/1911374455500345409
Exactly. Food security is national security. The government had better wise up (I think that's finally happening).
Moar tariffs please!
PLUS they have put out of business the local butchers and processors! Regulations have a part in that.
Deer processors are fewer as well.
We need sensible/affordable (maybe even no) regulations on small slaughterhouses. Just let them run ----- shut them down if they fuckup and sell bad meat.
...we do not suffer from that issue here in the heartland...
...our biggest meat market is a locally owned farmer co op...
And for you who like ribs and bacon, china owns the farms and the production.
Pigs used to be good for small family farms. Till they were undercut and put out of business by Smithfield etc. Now former pig raisers have to drive truck for Smithfield . . .
WHO let this happen??
And Smithfield owned by china.
WHY was that allowed to happen?? For CHINA to purchase a pork production and processing monopoly, in our country?!? Not just a few here and there, but become a monopoly!
Lots of someones were asleep at the switch -- or complicit??
Fuck no ------ they were in on it to make a buck
Same way they got everything. They flooded the market with cheap goods and bought the farms when pork farmers couldn't compete. Used Walmart's business model, which put mom and pop stores out of business.
This is the reason Trump never gives up placing the blame for the fix we are in in the laps of his predecessors, for decades of stupidity.
and complicity!!
Oh yes. Don't think Trump can go there, so he just calls them stupid which is the lesser evil
"America for sale" Q
China can't produce enough pork (the majority of meat they eat) for the huge amount of people they have so they started buying it internationally. I assume they money-whipped everyone from the farms/plants to CONgress to the regulatory agencies so they could buy Smithfield (and others) and secure a food supply for their people. I don't think they cared how much it cost, and our people were stupid enough to sell out for a quick buck without thinking about the long-term effects to America. Those people are the ones who should have to eat ze bugs.
Farmers did not sell out. The price of hogs dropped below their production costs, they could not compete with the giant.
That's fair. I meant "cashed out". I was fighting in my head with using "sold the farm" but it reminded me too much of "bought the farm". I chose wrong...
I however didn't know why so many farmers sold. I know a lot sell because of the taxes when the parents/grandparents die and the kids/parents can't afford to pay the taxes. I don't know squat about the prices on ag or animals.
Edit - meant to add this - when I said "our people" I was talking about all the old individual people that owned the brands and sold them to Smithfield. The first 1 or 2 I get - they didn't see the big picture yet, but to continue to have other brands sell to them as well just creates a huge monopoly. Then China bought it and made it even worse.
💰💰💰& probably to slow poison us.
I posted a list of meat brands owned by Smithfield (owned by China) a couple of years ago. It may have changed a little since then, but here is what Grok says is still owned by them:
Smithfield (core brand, offering bacon, ham, sausage, ribs, and more)
Eckrich (sausages, deli meats, and smoked meats)
Nathan’s Famous (hot dogs and other packaged meats)
Farmland (pork products including bacon, sausage, and ribs)
Armour (hot dogs, lunch meats, and other packaged meats)
Farmer John (California-based pork products, including sausages and bacon)
Carando (Italian-style deli meats, dry sausages, and hams)
Cook’s (hams, particularly smoked and spiral-sliced varieties)
Curly’s (BBQ and smoked meats, ready-to-eat products)
Gwaltney (bacon, hot dogs, and sausages)
John Morrell (hot dogs, bacon, and lunch meats)
Kretschmar (premium deli meats and sausages)
Margherita (Italian-inspired deli meats and sausages)
Healthy Ones (lower-fat and lower-sodium deli meats)
Pure Farmland (plant-based meat alternatives, such as soy burgers and meatballs)
They used to have a deal with Cracker Barrel to provide them lunch meat to sell in their market areas but there was some sort of a suit between Smithfield, Kraft, and John Morrell (the brand they used) so that deal was killed.
Pay attention to what you buy.
"Chy-na"
I think there's was a post about two months ago. It was a video of RFK Jr explaining how it was done.
The demonic person that allowed it to happen. Obama
You might not make/save any money ---- but you can still do this, at least for yourself.
Piglets are small enough to slaughter yourself. Reproduction rate is much higher.
Democrats that's for sure
I love knowing that our country's mortal enemy is the same one that feeds us...
Really?? RFK said the Blackrock owned nearly 109% of the beef processing plants in the US?
Not pork
If Trump knows, he will fix this. One major beef import country just got axed within the last couple days
I heard our beef get shipped out of the country, processed and shipped back. Can't remember where I heard that. We also export millions of tons for other countries to eat as well. Meanwhile the prices of meat are out the roof.
There's only two places I buy meat, both small local butchers.
Pork especially.
All kinds of businesses you thought were good old American "blue chip" companies are now foreign owned....
And ports....
And toll roads....
And...and...and...
It's COMPLETELY f'd up.
Talk about selling your grandkids down the river so you can maintain your status with limited kerfuffle...You're looking at it.
They either did a "reverse mortgage" thing - getting dividends to sell out...and/or outsourced all real production overseas to keep the profit margins up - meanwhile completely HOLLOWING OUT the company.
This is why I am glad Trump is encouraging and stimulating foreign investment here - not because it'll be more of the same, but because there's PLENTY of people out of work and by the grace of God, nearly out on the streets. It's been tough for a lot of folks...
People need jobs. Things suck right now. I can't even imagine kameltoe and veep creep running point...Let's take a moment to be thankful for at least that today.
u/#trumpflag
They need to band together and start their own independent meat processing company, like several ranchers have done in Idaho and Oklahoma.
friend of mine is raising turkeys ----- we had some for Thanksgiving
IMO turkeys are harder to get attached to as a pet.
So many job opportunities
and that's not counting Bill Gates
It makes perfect sense, the assholes in washington take their cut, an sell out their country. It's been happening a lot..
this is important to undo! So ban mega-corporations, at least in agriculture. They seem to blob and make society worse than better. Competition is not sin, John D. Rockefeller is quoted as to having declared it is. https://www.brainyquote.com/authors/john-d-rockefeller-quotes
Brazil I am less concerned than China, but sill, Brazil would have paid for things with notes, not gold and silver, so I’d call the sales of the processing centers “ non-sales” and do recissions of all the sales.
The only thing a capitalist hates more than a communist is a competitor.
yeah, a dealer is doing its best to cut out my friends’ product and let a competitor flourish
I've been thinking about buying some beef calves or feeders as I have excess hay and pasture. Been pretty disappointed in how high the prices are. Up to $3.40/lb for feeders and 100lb calves are $15/lb. With what a finished cow brings, there isn't obvious$ to be made right now