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Alberta has gained 60% of the signatures required to hold a referendum on exiting Canada 🇨🇦 Saskatchewan plans to follow in Alberta's footsteps. (twitter.com)
posted 1 year ago by Joys1Daughter 1 year ago by Joys1Daughter +229 / -0
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– Frayed-2 24 points 1 year ago +24 / -0

If we are going in the direction of annexing Canada, giving Alberta statehood first would be a great way to guarantee their senate seats don’t get gerrymandered together with the rest of the north.

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– NanoKhuma 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

If parts of Canada secedes and is annexed by the US, I'm thinking it's more likely that they would keep the northern provinces as territories instead of granting statehood due to the tiny, mostly Indian populations that north. If anything, it's more likely that Alberta and the like might be broken further down because of their existing size.

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– greatpumpkin 10 points 1 year ago +10 / -0

What about tossing out the pajeets?

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– WTP_1776 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

This should be an automatic yes

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– NanoKhuma 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

It's really not a difficult problem, since you would basically have to run a census of people right off the bat anyways.

Just a simple 1: Are you a Canadian Citizen? 2: Have you maintained residency in Alberta for more than 1 year? 3: Have you resided in Canada longer than 5 (or 10) years?

Numbers may have to be tweaked, however just 1 and 3 would be enough to filter out 80% for deportation, and 2 stops cross-province shenanigans.

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– catsfive 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

This would however be a bad idea from an economic perspective considering the incredible resources that are there. Also, assuming that Trump opens up the North for oil production and exploration, some of these territories might be needed as transit territories for pipelines, roads, and even rail. Last thing to consider is the global security profile of the region. Russia has already stated in the past that they believe the northern passage is an internationally navigable waterway, and they already working to open up the north transit lanes with their icebreakers (they have a huge fleet of 45 icebreakers) the United States will need military base is along this corridor. True, they could have bases in a "territory," but the argument that they are defending sovereign American territory is less compelling without these territories being actual parts of the United States, along with Greenland.

This is why the normies are so stupid, thinking that Trump is being a buffoon and overreaching about Greenland. No. The strategy is to cap and close the Arctic passage under one global security umbrella, headed of course by the United States.

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– NanoKhuma 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

True, they could have bases in a "territory," but the argument that they are defending sovereign American territory is less compelling without these territories being actual parts of the United States

I do believe there is a bit of a misunderstanding here, I am referring to the Yukon, Nunavut, and Northwest Territories as Article IV territories. An attack on these territories would be no different than the 1941 attack on Pearl Harbor, given Hawaii wasn't granted statehood until 1959.

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– CanDrWatson 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

The funniest thing, Trump already said we can keep our healthcare if we become the 51st state.

Most people don't understand its health insurance unlike the UKs NHS. 6 months of residency is required for coverage.

So it really won't change shit. I doubt many people are gonna just up and move for 6 months to get on a wait list for a procedure lol

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– Toblathe 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'll move to another state with real health care. Its not like I would only be there for 6 months any way, and once its a state its the same as moving to any other state... except it will be the only one with actual health care.

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– Plebbitimmigrant 15 points 1 year ago +15 / -0

Unthinkable not even a decade ago. Actually happening today.

If it works. The rest of Canada is probably hosed. The only question is what they would ultimately do next. Statehood? Or choosing to go it alone. At least in the sense of Domestic policy. In practice the U.S would likely heavily influence their foreign policies at the very least.

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– Paul_Revere 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

"Unthinkable not even a decade ago."

Oh, it was thinkable, all right. There were active independence movements in the prarie provinces as far back as the Seventies. But media brainwashing and Deep State resistence kept them from getting off the ground.

Are things different today? I don't know. We'll see.

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– catsfive 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Ever since I was a little kid, everywhere you go in Alberta, you would drive past Farmers Fields and see the occasional homemade billboard in the fields:

MORE ALBERTA

LESS OTTAWA

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– NanoKhuma 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Wouldn't be suprised if Ontario and Quebec tried to stick it out by themselves because their identity is that of hardcore anti-Americanism and anti-Englishism for the 2 respectively.

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– catsfive 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Then there's the language barrier. French, Punjabi, Hindu

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– KingofAlberta 9 points 1 year ago +9 / -0

We need to be a sovereign state or join the American union. Alberta is tethered to a corpse and everyday we lose more rights.

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– NanoKhuma 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

I for one will welcome our maple syrup drinking freedom fighters.

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– Joys1Daughter [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

🙏🤍🙏

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– gobby 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Alberta is my favorite province. It would be wild if it became part of the states, whether through statehood or territory. Just wild. I would love it if Saskatchewan came next. Eventually, BC. The rest they can keep. Well, I wouldn't mind Nova Scotia and Newfoundland. Not sure about the Yukon Territory. Oh heck, yeah, bring them along too.

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– catsfive 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

There are parts of Alberta that are so beautiful that it would absolutely blow your mind. You would think you were in Narnia. It's the reason so many movies are still shot there. I believe the Netflix series Fargo was filmed in my hometown, we would always hear about locations and such

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– canehdianonmus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'm on MLS looking for property in AB what area would you recommend? I'm looking for secluded rural forested acreage.

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– KingofAlberta 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Athabasca area is really nice, as is slave lake

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– canehdianonmus 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'll check them out. Thanks.

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– Southernwhitebread2 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

Canadian law states 50% plus vote makes it binding by their constitution.

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– Pristine_cheek_6093 8 points 1 year ago +8 / -0

They’ll just freeze their bank accounts until the law changes

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– catsfive 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

But America in the end will win by sending everyone enough bouncy castles to tide everyone over

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– Joys1Daughter [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Thanks!

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– 650Thunderbolt 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Canada does not have a constitution. It's all a farce.

https://www.themythiscanada.com/

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– 208-RZ 5 points 1 year ago +5 / -0

Ottawa doesn't understand how serious the west is about keeping the guns.

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– Joys1Daughter [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

They may be about to find out...

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– 208-RZ 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Yep. Been afk, have houseguests. I just heard from one something about the natives invoking some treaty to block Smith from separating. Something about a cease and desist. Gonna dig into it when I get time.

Anything come up here about that? I'm out of the loop right now.

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– greatpumpkin 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

We need British Columbia and Yukon, to complete the land connection to Alaska.

Saskatchewan, Alberta, British Columbia and Yukon are all larger than California. I'm guessing they'll have to be broken up into smaller states.

Could this be the opportunity to re-do the borders of all the continental states?

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– catsfive 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

You definitely want BC, however. Here's why:

The port of Kitimat in British Columbia stands out as a privately operated deepwater port, uniquely positioned at the head of the Douglas Channel, offering direct access to the Pacific Ocean for large vessels. Unlike many other BC ports, it was specifically developed in the 1950s by Alcan to support the aluminum industry, later evolving to host LNG Canada’s $40 billion export terminal, the largest private sector investment in Canadian history. Its strategic location in a wide, flat valley enables a rare combination of industrial capacity and natural beauty, surrounded by the Coastal Mountain Range and lush rainforests. Additionally, Kitimat’s port serves as a vital link in the Northwest Corridor, connecting North America to the Pacific Rim, with infrastructure like the extended Terminal A wharf accommodating diverse cargo needs.

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– killerspacerobot 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

No reason to break them up. They are fine as they are. They are smaller than Alaska. We should do as little as possible to disturb their existing political arrangements. They are our neighbors and potential fellow citizens; we should not treat them like they are a side of beef.

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– iLLNESS 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

This is why Trump wanted Carney.

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– lukelog925 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Carney will push Canada over the edge. It'll be interesting if Yukon and British Columbia follow with it.

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– catsfive 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

FACE TO FACE. Literally, meeting with the devil himself

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– Trump4NH 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

Watch CA?

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– Joys1Daughter [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Multiple meanings...

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– Joys1Daughter [S] 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

https://nitter.poast.org/FinanceLancelot/status/1917983859259400435

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– 17GeneralBBQ 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Link goes to 502 bad gateway

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– Joys1Daughter [S] 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

Sorry... I'm having problems too with notter this morning

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– nopus 3 points 1 year ago +3 / -0

There is no way the evil corruption that just blatantly stole the election is going to let any part of Canada escape its grasp.

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– DieHeretic 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Hard to grasp anything if you get your fingers broken by a big ass hammer though.

The United States has a lot of big ass hammers.

If the lawfully elected government of Alberta requests the United States to help them defend the freedom of their citizens to choose their fate and help defend them from an insane Canadian federal government bent on violence, we should stand with them against that tyranny.

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– nopus 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

That we should.

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– JohnTitor17 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Would love to hear what u/catsfive think of this.

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– Joys1Daughter [S] 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

Me, too! What say you? u/catsfive

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– catsfive 4 points 1 year ago +4 / -0

Although I'm still Canadian, I have officially left Alberta and I'm no longer a resident there (I now live in Malta, EU), and am no longer a tax resident of Canada. Actually I asked the AI, what does this mean for me? Because I'm still the Canadian citizen, but I am unable to vote in this referendum. I would definitely try to get American citizenship if it were possible through this method however. It would drive me nuts if I lost the chance!

It's hilarious how many people on Twitter or elsewhere have said, yeah, pussy, you will leave Canada just like the rest of us won't. In the last year I have spent over 400k USD on consultants, lawyers, advocates, And I'm various fees and involuntary donations, but I am now a resident in the best tax jurisdiction on the planet.

I'm worried about surviving the summer though. I hear it gets unbelievably, unbelievably hot here

But this development could be the absolute best thing to ever happen to Canada. Canada is basically not a nation anymore anyway. It is one of the most corrupt globalist governments on the planet and that's why I left. Those of us truly watching Canada saw Mark Carney coming as PM 2 years ago. After A decade of Trudeau, I figured the writing was on the wall. In my view, the only way to fix Canada was to support Trump. He's the only one that could save us. Let's hope Trump absolutely wipes the floor with this guy. He's fearless. He has the people. Fingers crossed.

EDIT: ONE OTHER THING! A Canadian team has not won the Stanley Cup and something like 35 years. Mostly the reason has to do with players that refuse to play in Canada due to the incredibly terrible tax situation. Maybe this could also mean that a Canadian team will finally win the cup, once they are no longer technically Canadian!

u/JohnTitor17/

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– Barron_FromTheFuture 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

what kind of vote majority does a referendum need?

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– WhyAserverWasBuilt 2 points 1 year ago +2 / -0

What makes everyone think they want to annex with us?

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– deleted 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0
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– 650Thunderbolt 1 point 1 year ago +1 / -0

I'm in Saskatchewan and have heard nothing about joining Alberta in this fight. The Premier, Scott Moe, was on the news the other day saying how he believes in Canada. Maybe that was a head fake. Personally, I think everything west of the Sask/Manitoba border should leave Canada, except for the lefty strongholds of Vancouver and Victoria.

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