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Illinois taxpayer REJECTED a progressive income tax, Democrat leaders are MOVING AHEAD with creating a constitutional amendment anyway (twitter.com) 🧠 These people are STUPID!
posted 37 days ago by brain_dead 37 days ago by brain_dead +186 / -0
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– 5547 22 points 37 days ago +22 / -0

They should be prosecuted for going against the people.

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– brain_dead [S] 7 points 37 days ago +7 / -0

Yes.

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– SuckaFree 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

Good luck finding anyone in Illinois willing to take on that battle.

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– TaQo 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

We need a mechanism in every state to recall these bastards for poor performance and not doing the will of the voters.

Need to straighten out voting first...

But there's no good reason anyone should be allowed to make decisions without the consent of the people - at this point.

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– deleted 5 points 36 days ago +5 / -0
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– AmateurExpert 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

What if any positive law program, that wasn’t civic or criminal - “program” type stuff, required CLEAR, UNCOERCED opt-in, with clear pathways to opt back out if so desired, while very clear and well publicized injunction/petition methods and debate forums are provided for negative laws.

When there is precedent on certain things, it should be highly visible and concise, and not in a “go search through precedent on FindLaw” sort of way, but in a quickly referenceable publication.

Generally, do a better job at allowing us into the process and providing insight into the current state, while removing the mechanisms that cause us to have to fight over levers of power.

Dunno if that whole thought is good, but pretty sure at least portions of it are pretty sensible.

How hard would it be for there to be a simple app that provided everyone a clear window into the workings of all their relevant jurisdictions?

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– TaQo 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

Yeah that makes a whole lot of sense to me...

But over here yonder in good ole 🤡🌎 - things a purposefully and intentionally made difficult AND nearly impossible to even contact a human with ANY decision making power whatsoever.

They want to literally automate EVERYTHING so everyone fits neatly into each field in the database - with as few options contrary to conformity as possible. It's ALL by design - ALL across the board... from government interactions to manufacturing...all chasing that "consistent, predictable product or end result".

It's completely contrary to the unique nature of an individual and nature itself. If you don't fit neatly into the database - well, sorry we can't help you sir... it's "policy"... it's "the system" - it's bullshit. They're not going to let up on going in that direction.

Just look around... you can barely order a sandwich without needing to show your balloon knot to the matrix these days.

Now about that carbon tax ...You are the carbon they want to tax ...

Is it Friday yet?

u/#catdance

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– AmateurExpert 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

Oh I get that it’s unrealistic due to the nature of who we are dealing with. These people make you ask permission to drop your children off at school, ffs.

Just spitballing on potential high level solutions.

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– MidnightToker 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

Those same people will keep voting for them while sitting in front of their TV bitching about taxes and corrupt politicians.

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– Ineedsanity 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

I agree; however, until our voting system is unrigged nothing can change.

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– HOSEQ 17 points 36 days ago +17 / -0

So, the Message is::

""Despite how you Animals Voted, WE the RULERS will impose this Tax and Bankrupt you, for Disobeying us""....

Got it....

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– brain_dead [S] 4 points 36 days ago +4 / -0

Damn kings and queens and we are the serfs.

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– HOSEQ 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

Just wait till the Truth Comes out Finally about ""America"" being a huge Experiment, set up in order to see IF Humanity could, or Could Not ""Rule themselves""....

And directly after setting it all up, they Immediately set upon Destroying it through undermining it....

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

I believe it.

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– HOSEQ 2 points 31 days ago +2 / -0

By the Readings of Law that I have followed, they seem to have settled upon the Constitutional Commerce Clause, wherein they seem to have Based Most of their Laws against American People...

At any Traffic Stop, the First Accusation is ""Driving"", which is a Job Position, below Driver is Chauffeur, or Delivery Driver....

Then they run the second Charge, which can Range from Speeding to not having Government Permission or just about anything else....

Only people who are getting Paid to DO BUSINESS on Public Roads are ""Drivers"", and Nobody Else has any business having a Drivers License nor License Plates....

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 31 days ago +1 / -0

Get out of there.

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– HOSEQ 2 points 31 days ago +2 / -0

It's a Process, but many people are diligently working on removing their Cars and Trucks from that horrible System....

And yes, it does Track, in Reverse, it goes from Driving while, or Without, or Under, to Traffic, to State and Federal DOT up to Commerce Clause, in short....

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 31 days ago +2 / -0

It's all criminal.

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– TaQo 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

They think they're related to pharoah... not kidding

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– HOSEQ 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

Many have gotten into Humanism, and believe they are Gods also....

It's a twisted World, and the insanity runs deep....

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– TaQo 1 point 36 days ago +1 / -0

Some really do...

And they believe the whole pharaonic divine right to rule nonsense...

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– HOSEQ 2 points 34 days ago +2 / -0

Yeah, in my OPINION, it was a Drunk Pope and a Drunk King that got together one weekend and had the Book of ROMANS put together so they could use it to justify their Existences....

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– Larrie 16 points 36 days ago +16 / -0

"Democrats Leaders" in Illinois haven't been elected in decades. They have been selected

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– RabidIndividualist 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

Yeah, the Chicago Machine has been a thing at least since the 60s.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

Yes.

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– farpointpatriot 1 point 36 days ago +1 / -0

I would like to add that these shitbags ARE NOT, by ANY definition … leaders. Not even close.

This is not a reflection on the OP … but I am tired of that label being applied to anyone in politics, being labeled as a leader, who has ZERO actual LEADERSHIP role. Congress people who are just there to “make laws”, and dont do shit else, are not fuckin “LEADERS”. Not at all.

I apologize for the rant frens.

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– LordKekingtonEsquire 9 points 37 days ago +9 / -0

Weird how the Democrats have the same playbook in every state.

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– brain_dead [S] 5 points 37 days ago +5 / -0

They are not very creative.

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– pnwhomebrewer 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

Washington state. Want to keep natural gas and $30 car tabs? Lol go fuck yourself you plebs simply don’t know what’s best for you.

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– AngelCole 5 points 36 days ago +5 / -0

It still amazes me that anyone would remain living in IL especially if you live close to the border of a more free state like Missouri. We aren't perfect but we still have a strong 2nd amendment.

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– lostoros23 7 points 36 days ago +7 / -0

Family. I want out so bad but family. I foolishly hold out hope for Trump to do something so incredible that it will fix us. But idk. Our taxes are so high and we have nothing to show for it. Our roads are in disrepair and we have homeless issues everywhere. We need help.

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– DMich70 1 point 36 days ago +1 / -0

Same here.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

I would move. LOL

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– Flowers_for_Alger 4 points 36 days ago +4 / -0

Happens in WA state all the time- the voters said NO, three times against a new baseball stadium-- guess what we got AND get to pay.taxes on forever? Safeco/t Mobile field where the Mariners find new ways of losing every year.... That is just 1 example

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– HenryBowman1984 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

Welcome to calirado…same shit different longitude.

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– deleted 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0
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– Flowers_for_Alger 1 point 36 days ago +1 / -0

Our fearless leaders in WA slipped in another gas tax- so despite nat'l gas prices going down- we still hover in the low $4 range and the sheep believe it's because trump tarriffs- retarded cycle

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 34 days ago +2 / -0

You know they are all installed and money laundering.

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– brain_dead [S] 4 points 37 days ago +4 / -0

https://www.regionalmedianews.com/news/local/westernillinois-local/rep-norine-hammond-il-house-republicans-slam-6-billion-in-proposed-tax-hikes

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– wasupwitdis 4 points 36 days ago +4 / -0

long ago politicians on both side have lost the fact that they work for the people...until we remove this cancer nothing will change.........DRAIN THE SWAMP ..ASAP

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– brain_dead [S] 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

They think they are our bosses.

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– rupedoggydawg 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

We seriously need to bring back the tar and feathering.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

Faster to just blast their faces and names on social media.

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– BrainwashedbyTrump 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

Its crazy to hear them scream about muh raising prices and inflation from tarrifs, yet turn around and tax their own citizens more, which increases prices and creates inflation, how can they not see it... I've been making this claim for years and they've finally admitted it with this tariff inflation nonsense.

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– brain_dead [S] 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

It's derangement.

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– Johnnyquest 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

The taxation is the economic method that governments used to control the inflation from Fiat currency. If you take away the need for Fiat currency through tariffs by creating actual value, then the taxation becomes redundant

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

They will still take the tax for their own wealth gain. You know greedy people can never have enough.

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– JSSS 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

They need to start tar and feathering these fuckers!

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

Just blast them all over the news all the time.

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– RabidIndividualist 1 point 33 days ago +1 / -0

Tar & Feathers is an American tradition.

I'd like to see it applied to these rogue "judges" first. Run a few of them out of town on a rail covered in pine tar (road tar is too hot, if we're going to kill them just hang them) and feathers so that EVERYONE knows who they are.

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– deleted 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0
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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 34 days ago +2 / -0

Howls.

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– gloryhallelujah22 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

Enemies of the people.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

They truly are.

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– SOGWAP 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

The people need to remove their heads.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

I 2nd that.

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– Carlos142857 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

The State Supreme Court is likely composed in a manner favorable to their interests. A similar situation occurred in Washington State when the capital gains tax was enacted, despite its prohibition under the state constitution.

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– brain_dead [S] 2 points 34 days ago +2 / -0

You meant installed in a manner favorable to their interest.

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– merf 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

What's lost in all this is that our tax rate is already radically "progressive".

It's not like everyone pays in $1k. Firstly, a whole shit-ton of people pay negative (i.e. they are on welfare). And that is not just poors, it is folks like Romney, Buffett, Gates, Soros, Pritzker etc. whose companies, estates, and orgs are lavished with welfare both directly and indirectly.

Then there are the folks that pay a little bit--mostly in the form of the "social security" and Medicare/Medicaid scams.

Finally there are the crabs that have almost made it out of the barrel who pay through the nose. Lottery winners, athletes, successful businessmen, doctors, skilled professionals, etc. On these people the entirety of the tax burden falls, because those are the people who could potentially make a change to fix the system.

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

Taxes just need to go away for real. I agree with you.

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– HardWorkinPatriot 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

And when that doesn't bring in enough money, will they put us in an Arena, and let out the lions? This has got to stop! Perhaps if Homan arrests enough of them for obstruction, we might see some daylight.

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– brain_dead [S] 3 points 36 days ago +3 / -0

It's darkest before dawn.

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– RabidIndividualist 2 points 36 days ago +2 / -0

But, but, but... Muh Demokracy!

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– brain_dead [S] 1 point 34 days ago +1 / -0

'xactly.

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