And as we saw with BBB, both parties were against the spending cuts. The politicians are tied into the money coming in and don't want it to stop-ever. Our president realizes this and I am hoping he has a plan that hits these politicians over the head and they say we have to get our spending under control. They never do but the sound bites make for great news stories!
The spending has to be cut no matter what! And they're doing some of that.
But I wonder if the national debt is largely artificially created by letting the privately owned corporation called the Fed print $100 bills for a dime apiece and then lend them to the Treasury at face value plus interest
I think It is not national debt. I believe its corporate debt. Our standing in that corporation determines the individual liabilityn. An employee or property of the corporation doesnt pay the debt of our master.
Also referring to this as “national debt”. Who is owed this money? Did they give anything tangible for this loan, or was it just ones and zeros on a computer?
It’s nothing but a ponzi scheme backed by civil service extortion and violence.
Pretty sure thats the end game of doge. My state is doing it now and one thing they are looking for is federally subsidized state programs that are blindly funded, lack oversight and are wasteful. The feds and taxpayers are going to know pretty clearly how wasteful most of their budget is. So overbloated and distributed it can not be tracked by them. Some of these programs are just continually funded year after year with no review.
C-17s guarded by 2 F-16s each. That is what caught my eye. I watched quite a bit of it in real time. I believe we got gold from Saudi (partial), Vatican, and the Queen of England. From the Swiss via NYC holdings??
Trying to be your hero
Winding up zero
Can scar a man forever
Right down to your soul
Living on the spotlight
Can kill a man out right
Cause everything that glitters is not gold
Trump extended the U.S.–China tariff truce for another 90 days to hold current rates (30% U.S. → China; 10% China → U.S.) in place while avoiding a massive spike to triple-digit tariffs that was set to hit. This buys time for trade talks, protects the holiday shopping season from sudden cost shocks, and keeps financial markets stable — Asian stocks actually hit record highs after the news. It’s also a strategic move to keep leverage while appearing measured on the world stage, with some analysts saying it could lead to a Trump–Xi summit in the fall. In short, the pause doesn’t stop tariff revenue from flowing to the Treasury, but it avoids premature escalation so the next move hits harder when Trump wants it.
The new order prevents U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods from shooting up to 145%, while Chinese tariffs on U.S. goods were set to hit 125% - rates that would have resulted in a virtual trade embargo between the two countries. It locks in place - at least for now - a 30% tariff on Chinese imports, with Chinese duties on U.S. imports at 10%.
China holds the cards, the debt and has stopped buying more of it. They hold extreme rare earth advantage, have been given green light for American chip makers to sell to China. They lead in energy which will be evident as AI cripples the US energy sector. They lead in AI and have essentially gamed the world as you closely examine their ally network. Trump seems to be fighting with our allies like India, pushing them to China and now buying all their energy from Russia. The Brics are pushing hard to leverage the dollar which has lost its Breton Woods agreement as the energy exchange currency.
Now you have to get to the bottom line. We currently barely cover interest payments on the debt itself let alone pay for the budget itself which was increased significantly AGAIN. So how are you going to repay 37 Trillion ? If you factor in that it took us 250 years to get here, just an even number to work with, and we plan to break even in 250 years from now,that would equate to 148,000,000,000 a year over the budget. Lets say we are back in black in 10 years we would need 3.7 Trillion dollar surplus per year. Now with the numbers Trump is floating around of a totally optomistic 1 Trillion a year, thats 37 years not going over budget at all. The Gubmint has a 100% track record of blowing the budget every time.
The Fed is going to have to be removed, kicked out flat on its ass for Treason, printing money out of nothing. A decision that was made by less then 20 total dirtbags in a dark , illegal meeting.
Until we grow a set of balls, all of this nicey , nicey means absolute gauranteed more of the same.
The house is on fire and No Trump is not a magician.
We have a gamed system, just like the stock market, all pumped up on Derivitives. That means, no, you will not get any money from the F.D.I.C. when the game of musical chairs is up, you will have no seat, the rules were written to only have chairs for bankers.
The easiest way to do it is this, you get the DOT to develop plans to build high speed rail systems that go directly through ALL the FED buildings in the U.S.
Now, under imminent domain, you confiscate the property for construction. This first one happens as soon as Jerome Powells 3.2 $ Billion dollar renovation is finished.
The end, no more physical locations. You ask for all members resignations, cut the power. The End for real. Welcome to your new high speed loop rail system . . . called the Federal Reserve Railway , All Aboard !!!
Yes, the numbers don’t add up under the old system — that’s the point. You’ll never pay $37T back inside a gamed casino run by the Fed. That’s why Trump said: ‘You don’t return the diamonds to the thief.’ Tariffs aren’t the magic trick, they’re the optics — showing solvency while the deeper move is clawbacks, asset seizures, and dismantling the Fed itself. China, BRICS, rare earths, AI — all leverage against the fake dollar system. But the real flip isn’t trying to ‘repay’ stolen debt, it’s exposing who stole it and resetting the rules. That’s why they’re panicking. The fire isn’t proof we’re doomed — it’s proof the house was rotten and it’s coming down. Trust the demolition, not the arsonists.
Technically I would imagine Congress. If Trump would go it alone, the Supreme Court would get involved. Its inception was a crime, collusion, Coup. So We have a full spectrum ordeal. The Bankruptcy is an interesting position however. Flushing them would be very epic IF, Trump could wield that power. This declaration on D.C. itself presents a very intersting argument for his NOW existent power under these circumstances. Several Exectutive orders arguable makes him the most powerful President Ever.
SERIOUS, I thought this site was educated? How many times has Trump said "You dont return the Diamonds to the theif." SO lets PRINT 40 1Trillion notes and give them an official F.ck..g name and we are done. AND then claw back ALL the wealth they already stole. "Trust The Plan" that is what they have been doing.
Tariffs aren’t the whole answer, but they flip the narrative. For years we were told tariffs would ruin us—now watchdogs admit Trump’s tariffs are paying down a $37T debt. Remember Trump’s line: ‘You don’t return the diamonds to the thief.’ Tariffs are the surface layer. The deeper Plan is clawbacks of stolen wealth and a reset of fake debt. That’s how justice and solvency meet. Printing trillion-dollar notes would be theater—clawing back trillions already stolen is justice.
Exactly — is it ‘legit debt,’ or debt manufactured by a criminal banking cartel? We ‘owe’ it mostly to the Fed and foreign central banks who print money from nothing, then lend it back to us with interest. That’s not legitimate debt, that’s enslavement. Trump’s line ‘you don’t return the diamonds to the thief’ is the key — you don’t pay fake debt back to the very system that stole from you. The real Plan is tariffs + clawbacks + ending the Fed. That’s how you erase illegal debt and expose who profited from it.
The debt breakdown is public info. Almost all of our debt is owned by US banks and citizens.
Domestic holders (roughly 70% of public debt): This is the largest share. It includes a variety of U.S. investors, such as individuals, banks, pension funds, mutual funds, and state and local governments.
This debt is almost entirely owed to federal trust funds. The largest portion, about one-third of intragovernmental debt, is held by the Social Security Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund. Other significant holders include military retirement and Medicare trust funds. The rest of the debt is owned by individuals and banks.
Foreign holders (roughly 30% of public debt): Foreign governments and private investors hold this portion. The largest foreign holders are Japan, China, and the United Kingdom - combined they own 80% of our foreign debt.
The spending still has to stop
Your comment — “The spending still has to stop” — is spot on. Tariffs are a tool, but without cuts, it’s like pouring water into a bucket with a hole.
And as we saw with BBB, both parties were against the spending cuts. The politicians are tied into the money coming in and don't want it to stop-ever. Our president realizes this and I am hoping he has a plan that hits these politicians over the head and they say we have to get our spending under control. They never do but the sound bites make for great news stories!
They must go to jail.
Of course, the ones that committed crimes should absolutely be charged and tried-I agree.
The spending has to be cut no matter what! And they're doing some of that.
But I wonder if the national debt is largely artificially created by letting the privately owned corporation called the Fed print $100 bills for a dime apiece and then lend them to the Treasury at face value plus interest
Plus interest on interest.
Yes definitely, interest on interest forever so it never gets paid off
student loans same idea
Amen bro!
Don't just focus on tariffs, remember the wealth injected into the system by leveraging U.S. resource value and the Sovereign Wealth Fund.
I think It is not national debt. I believe its corporate debt. Our standing in that corporation determines the individual liabilityn. An employee or property of the corporation doesnt pay the debt of our master.
Also referring to this as “national debt”. Who is owed this money? Did they give anything tangible for this loan, or was it just ones and zeros on a computer?
It’s nothing but a ponzi scheme backed by civil service extortion and violence.
Correct!
No more gay hamster games Mr Fauci!
Pretty sure thats the end game of doge. My state is doing it now and one thing they are looking for is federally subsidized state programs that are blindly funded, lack oversight and are wasteful. The feds and taxpayers are going to know pretty clearly how wasteful most of their budget is. So overbloated and distributed it can not be tracked by them. Some of these programs are just continually funded year after year with no review.
Are you from Illinois too?
What about all the gold from under the Vatican?
What about those 64 cargo planes that supposedly brought it over?
C-17s guarded by 2 F-16s each. That is what caught my eye. I watched quite a bit of it in real time. I believe we got gold from Saudi (partial), Vatican, and the Queen of England. From the Swiss via NYC holdings??
That officially doesn’t exist. So it won’t factor into statistics or reporting.
Trying to be your hero
Winding up zero
Can scar a man forever
Right down to your soul
Living on the spotlight
Can kill a man out right
Cause everything that glitters is not gold
So the Tariffs are working. And the Economists are coping and seething because it doesn’t seem like it should be.
The economist have proven they are not the experts. Their indoctrination has wasted their lives.
The Trump Team is attacking from all angles. Tariffs, DOGEing, Rescissions, hopefully a smarter budget and significant economic growth rate.
Seizing the assets of those who violate human rights (possibly every billionaire there is) should pay off the rest of it.
Why does Trump- U.S. and China extend tariff truce deadline for another 3 months? Does anyone know.
Trump extended the U.S.–China tariff truce for another 90 days to hold current rates (30% U.S. → China; 10% China → U.S.) in place while avoiding a massive spike to triple-digit tariffs that was set to hit. This buys time for trade talks, protects the holiday shopping season from sudden cost shocks, and keeps financial markets stable — Asian stocks actually hit record highs after the news. It’s also a strategic move to keep leverage while appearing measured on the world stage, with some analysts saying it could lead to a Trump–Xi summit in the fall. In short, the pause doesn’t stop tariff revenue from flowing to the Treasury, but it avoids premature escalation so the next move hits harder when Trump wants it.
Thanks, I needed that info. It's good we have anons that knowledgeable in so many subjects.
The new order prevents U.S. tariffs on Chinese goods from shooting up to 145%, while Chinese tariffs on U.S. goods were set to hit 125% - rates that would have resulted in a virtual trade embargo between the two countries. It locks in place - at least for now - a 30% tariff on Chinese imports, with Chinese duties on U.S. imports at 10%.
Thanks for clearing that up.
That's actually a very excellent breakdown. Thank you very much
China holds the cards, the debt and has stopped buying more of it. They hold extreme rare earth advantage, have been given green light for American chip makers to sell to China. They lead in energy which will be evident as AI cripples the US energy sector. They lead in AI and have essentially gamed the world as you closely examine their ally network. Trump seems to be fighting with our allies like India, pushing them to China and now buying all their energy from Russia. The Brics are pushing hard to leverage the dollar which has lost its Breton Woods agreement as the energy exchange currency.
Now you have to get to the bottom line. We currently barely cover interest payments on the debt itself let alone pay for the budget itself which was increased significantly AGAIN. So how are you going to repay 37 Trillion ? If you factor in that it took us 250 years to get here, just an even number to work with, and we plan to break even in 250 years from now,that would equate to 148,000,000,000 a year over the budget. Lets say we are back in black in 10 years we would need 3.7 Trillion dollar surplus per year. Now with the numbers Trump is floating around of a totally optomistic 1 Trillion a year, thats 37 years not going over budget at all. The Gubmint has a 100% track record of blowing the budget every time.
The Fed is going to have to be removed, kicked out flat on its ass for Treason, printing money out of nothing. A decision that was made by less then 20 total dirtbags in a dark , illegal meeting.
Until we grow a set of balls, all of this nicey , nicey means absolute gauranteed more of the same.
The house is on fire and No Trump is not a magician.
We have a gamed system, just like the stock market, all pumped up on Derivitives. That means, no, you will not get any money from the F.D.I.C. when the game of musical chairs is up, you will have no seat, the rules were written to only have chairs for bankers.
The easiest way to do it is this, you get the DOT to develop plans to build high speed rail systems that go directly through ALL the FED buildings in the U.S.
Now, under imminent domain, you confiscate the property for construction. This first one happens as soon as Jerome Powells 3.2 $ Billion dollar renovation is finished.
The end, no more physical locations. You ask for all members resignations, cut the power. The End for real. Welcome to your new high speed loop rail system . . . called the Federal Reserve Railway , All Aboard !!!
Yes, the numbers don’t add up under the old system — that’s the point. You’ll never pay $37T back inside a gamed casino run by the Fed. That’s why Trump said: ‘You don’t return the diamonds to the thief.’ Tariffs aren’t the magic trick, they’re the optics — showing solvency while the deeper move is clawbacks, asset seizures, and dismantling the Fed itself. China, BRICS, rare earths, AI — all leverage against the fake dollar system. But the real flip isn’t trying to ‘repay’ stolen debt, it’s exposing who stole it and resetting the rules. That’s why they’re panicking. The fire isn’t proof we’re doomed — it’s proof the house was rotten and it’s coming down. Trust the demolition, not the arsonists.
I would agree, thats a fair assessment.
Who can pull the Fed's corporate charter? And seize their assets?
Technically I would imagine Congress. If Trump would go it alone, the Supreme Court would get involved. Its inception was a crime, collusion, Coup. So We have a full spectrum ordeal. The Bankruptcy is an interesting position however. Flushing them would be very epic IF, Trump could wield that power. This declaration on D.C. itself presents a very intersting argument for his NOW existent power under these circumstances. Several Exectutive orders arguable makes him the most powerful President Ever.
Why, because Trump know what he's doing.
We have to stop congress they are full of traitors and gangsters with double citizenship majority from Zionists
SERIOUS, I thought this site was educated? How many times has Trump said "You dont return the Diamonds to the theif." SO lets PRINT 40 1Trillion notes and give them an official F.ck..g name and we are done. AND then claw back ALL the wealth they already stole. "Trust The Plan" that is what they have been doing.
Tariffs aren’t the whole answer, but they flip the narrative. For years we were told tariffs would ruin us—now watchdogs admit Trump’s tariffs are paying down a $37T debt. Remember Trump’s line: ‘You don’t return the diamonds to the thief.’ Tariffs are the surface layer. The deeper Plan is clawbacks of stolen wealth and a reset of fake debt. That’s how justice and solvency meet. Printing trillion-dollar notes would be theater—clawing back trillions already stolen is justice.
Tariffs are just consumption taxes. I don't celebrate taxes.
That's basically true but at least they prevent American labor from being undercut by slave labor overseas.
$37 trillion national debt? Legitimate national debt? or illegal debt? Who do we owe this national debt to?
Exactly — is it ‘legit debt,’ or debt manufactured by a criminal banking cartel? We ‘owe’ it mostly to the Fed and foreign central banks who print money from nothing, then lend it back to us with interest. That’s not legitimate debt, that’s enslavement. Trump’s line ‘you don’t return the diamonds to the thief’ is the key — you don’t pay fake debt back to the very system that stole from you. The real Plan is tariffs + clawbacks + ending the Fed. That’s how you erase illegal debt and expose who profited from it.
The debt breakdown is public info. Almost all of our debt is owned by US banks and citizens.
Domestic holders (roughly 70% of public debt): This is the largest share. It includes a variety of U.S. investors, such as individuals, banks, pension funds, mutual funds, and state and local governments.
This debt is almost entirely owed to federal trust funds. The largest portion, about one-third of intragovernmental debt, is held by the Social Security Old-Age and Survivors Insurance Trust Fund. Other significant holders include military retirement and Medicare trust funds. The rest of the debt is owned by individuals and banks.
Foreign holders (roughly 30% of public debt): Foreign governments and private investors hold this portion. The largest foreign holders are Japan, China, and the United Kingdom - combined they own 80% of our foreign debt.