As I hear it, they are not even saying "accused" but are going to name those who were associated with Epstein, whose social circle was large.
Like the FISA warrant two-hop. You get a FISA warrant to monitor x, so you can monitor a and b and c who were associated with x, and on to all their contacts.
Detraction and calumny are not justice. Please let them just name the ones who harmed each of them personally!! And not compare "names" with each other to construct a "list." Well that is how the Salem witch trials came about. Presumed victims naming names, and the accused had no way to clear themselves.
This needs to be a clean judicial process with specific accusations of specific perps within a specific time period at a specific place. Right??
My questions are... why didn't they put out their lists before now? Were they threatened before and now they aren't anymore? Are they safe from retribution from the guilty? And why didn't they just put out their lists right then/today? I'm sure they wrote down a list long ago. Are they hoping to get paid for the lists or book deals?
The court documents he asked for were the transcripts and he asked for them unredacted, that would provide detailed information about all of the victims, so I'm not surprised it was blocked.
Uhhhh…. Either they are feeling exceptionally protected for some reason, or they are not thinking straight. It appears to me the headline should read, “We have our own Epstein list and here it is, we just published it.”..
I watch this live. It was the dumbest shit and seemed insincere. They should have just got up there and listed off whoever they saw/interacted with. One of them seemed to 'slip up' and name a trip with Bill Clinton and like totally glossed over it really quick. They also begged TRUMP to 'sign this bill' and none of them were like "I can't believe we're asking this since he was there" or anything.
Looks like this is the only way its coming out since our Politicians wont do it. Just watched the first video where the lady named Bill Clinton. No shock there at all.
this is just another ploy.. hey did that dude that used to act with Michael Jackson ever release the names? this is a power ploy. just release the names, years ago now. looks like they are posturing to the highest bidder.
I kept hearing that it was a “Hoax” obviously referring to President Trump saying it’s all a big hoax. I believe what Trump was referring to, was that phony birthday card that he supposedly sent to Epstein. I don’t believe Trump was referring to Epstein‘s criminal behavior as a hoax.
Thoughts?
You’re absolutely right, and I continue to wonder why he doesn’t explain what he means a bit better. The card and first list were all bogus. I don’t know what to think about the victims doing a list. It sounds like Epstein list 2.0, yet I don’t want to discredit the victims. But Trump may now have no option but to let this list come out.
I also had the thought that perhaps the”it’s a hoax” comment made by Trump was a ploy to anger enough victims to make them “come out” so to speak. If that’s the case then it’s working.
"creating"!?! our own list of names?
of people "regularly in the Epstein world"??
Sounds like a threat of guilt by association.
How about detailed evidence about specific perps?
List of "accused" could be used by the Left.
As I hear it, they are not even saying "accused" but are going to name those who were associated with Epstein, whose social circle was large.
Like the FISA warrant two-hop. You get a FISA warrant to monitor x, so you can monitor a and b and c who were associated with x, and on to all their contacts.
Detraction and calumny are not justice. Please let them just name the ones who harmed each of them personally!! And not compare "names" with each other to construct a "list." Well that is how the Salem witch trials came about. Presumed victims naming names, and the accused had no way to clear themselves.
This needs to be a clean judicial process with specific accusations of specific perps within a specific time period at a specific place. Right??
My questions are... why didn't they put out their lists before now? Were they threatened before and now they aren't anymore? Are they safe from retribution from the guilty? And why didn't they just put out their lists right then/today? I'm sure they wrote down a list long ago. Are they hoping to get paid for the lists or book deals?
Two of the girls released a list about 5 years ago and it was ignored by the news.
inquiring minds would like to know . . .
I am tired of saying this ad nauseam.
If Trump did anything wrong this would have been brought out in 2015 when he wanted to run.
Or at the very least during his Presidency the first time.
Absolutely true.
There's no reason not to release all the files then.
They did, what's the next outrage?
Trump told them to release the court documents.
They refused.
The court documents he asked for were the transcripts and he asked for them unredacted, that would provide detailed information about all of the victims, so I'm not surprised it was blocked.
No it shows the true criminals.
How? A trump appointed judge did this, a guy who has supported trump the whole time.
This is fake.
Gloria Alred is defending them.
Here, here!!!
I identify as an Epstein victim, and the entire Democrat party has fucked me over.
Uhhhh…. Either they are feeling exceptionally protected for some reason, or they are not thinking straight. It appears to me the headline should read, “We have our own Epstein list and here it is, we just published it.”..
Did you watch it? They said they gave their list to congress already.
I’m guessing the deep state has inserted someone to accuse Trump and anyone else they don’t like.
Already happened. She said Trump was Epstein’s biggest brag.
There is no list. But, there is a list. We shall call it, the Epstein-Shrodinger's List.
And Gloria Allred is involved. Can anyone say “blackmail”?
And one said Trump was Epstien's "biggest brag"
This is gonna get interesting!
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1963263743699333458?t=t1VDOwCPV8tz-CFcKSlkGQ&s=19
I watch this live. It was the dumbest shit and seemed insincere. They should have just got up there and listed off whoever they saw/interacted with. One of them seemed to 'slip up' and name a trip with Bill Clinton and like totally glossed over it really quick. They also begged TRUMP to 'sign this bill' and none of them were like "I can't believe we're asking this since he was there" or anything.
This is going to ramp and expose the global cabal badly.
thousands of people did not kill themselves
Looks like this is the only way its coming out since our Politicians wont do it. Just watched the first video where the lady named Bill Clinton. No shock there at all.
this is just another ploy.. hey did that dude that used to act with Michael Jackson ever release the names? this is a power ploy. just release the names, years ago now. looks like they are posturing to the highest bidder.
I kept hearing that it was a “Hoax” obviously referring to President Trump saying it’s all a big hoax. I believe what Trump was referring to, was that phony birthday card that he supposedly sent to Epstein. I don’t believe Trump was referring to Epstein‘s criminal behavior as a hoax. Thoughts?
You’re absolutely right, and I continue to wonder why he doesn’t explain what he means a bit better. The card and first list were all bogus. I don’t know what to think about the victims doing a list. It sounds like Epstein list 2.0, yet I don’t want to discredit the victims. But Trump may now have no option but to let this list come out.
I also had the thought that perhaps the”it’s a hoax” comment made by Trump was a ploy to anger enough victims to make them “come out” so to speak. If that’s the case then it’s working.