I don't care if it's poultry, pork or beef. It's an absolute conspiracy.
Take poultry for instance. Large enough producers have USDA people ON STAFF and don't have to take their birds anywhere to be processed.
The nearest USDA facility to me is nearly 6 HOURS AWAY - Are those birds going to arrive alive after all that stress if transport? You're going to have a high percentage of mortality from farm to facility.
And in case you're not getting it....all animals to be slaughtered MUST ARRIVE ALIVE.
SO MUCH of our food is manipulated and regulated that there's NO WAY you can REALLY survive, let alone compete with larger outfits & as a result, they control the pricing and because of economies of scale, they've already got a wider profit margin right from the start.
You could go the Joel Salatin slaughter on the farm route, but that's going to vary by state and there's a limit of I think 1,000 birds per year... which is nothing.
But yanno... this is the land of the free and home of the brave, so we should be thankful for that and keep quiet & eat your factory food.
I looked at raising meat chickens, but we don’t have a State or USDA poultry processor nearby. Even if we did it would take a substantial cut of the profit from selling direct to consumers.
I know in my state the limit for on farm poultry processing is 20,000 chickens. Above 1,000 there are some additional hurdles, but they don’t seem too complex and no inspection of the animals is required.
What stops me is the thought of putting together a team that can process that many birds. If we can’t find help to make small square bales of hay, I’m doubtful people will want to process chickens.
No really that is ridiculous. in many places you can buy a whole, half or quarter cow. Perhaps if you sell it live then offer meat cutting service seperately?
This is how I did it. I would feed out a few head, sell a half or quarter to the customer, tell them what day it was going in for slaughter, drop off animal at butcher, pick up payment from customer, tell them to call with their cutlist, butcher does the rest and customer is responsible for picking up meat and paying butcher.
My local facility will label USDA inspected for resale for $40 a head.
After 50y of being a roadblock in the way of both commerce and agriculture while threatening everyone at the same time, is the USDA ever going to be a legit organization? No. Addiction to the graft.
How much money in back-pay and interest on the amount outstanding are farmers owed just in NH because of this, tens of billions of dollars? Unbelievable.
Small-scale, diverse agricultural and food industries are critical to New Hampshire's economy. In 2022, agricultural directly contributed to $235 million in output and the food system led to $29.3 billion in economic benefits to the Granite State.
They want us to buy the shit grain fed/soy fed meat held together with meat glues, and synthetic proteins. Because proper grass fed/grass finished beef is some of the most nutrient dense/amino packed foods we can get.
This is why I think that deer are being messed with. They are trying to in my own opinion kill our natural food sources. By way of diseasing our natural lands, and animals, and especially waters
Something doesn’t sound totally right in this story. New Hampshire seems to need three things: smarter State Representatives, better news reporters, and more State or USDA Inspected meat processors.
I’ve lived in three different states that had different levels of legal meat processing: Custom, State Inspected, and USDA Inspected.
Custom butchering is the term for someone buying a live animal (whole or on shares) and having it butchered for their use only. There is no inspection for custom processing.
A farmer can only sell red meat directly to a consumer if it is processed in an inspected facility. If it’s USDA inspected they can sell direct to consumers nationwide.
If it’s State Inspected they can sell direct to consumers within the state. And, fairly recently there is a provision where state inspected facilities can qualify to ship out of state. New Hampshire can control its own destiny by enabling more State Inspected meat processors.
We have four in Vermont. It is an agricultural state, maybe that is why? These facilities came about around 20 years ago. About 20 years ago the state made an effort to put agriculture on the same level as tourism, our products sell across the country, the meat, with a niche market, (grass fed, organic) farmers are doing well up here. The town I am closest too also built a usda processing plant for canning, freezing, packaging other produce for smaller operations, applesauce, salsa, barbecue sauce, organic vegetables, available to the less than 10 acre farms. If you slaughter yourself, or go to a smaller processing operation, you can still sell to individual buyers, but not to retail. There are mobile units that come right to your homestead and do all the poultry right there, they meet inspections qualifications, but do not have the stamp. If you have 50 turkeys, and a large refrigerated area, the local farmers put out an advert ahead of time, taking orders, this is done sometime in mid summer, so the farmer knows how much to slaughter. Small is better. It may not feed the country, but it can feed the state. Farm to table sells to schools, hospitals, and of course, restaurants.
The state had to do something, we were losing farms to development, it became political unfortunately, because many saw this as an anti business climate. It is an anti development issue, and not just because of "scenery". Farming is a business, albeit not a tax generator. And there lies the battle. Property taxes are very high here, because so many small towns have low population and no tax base. The developers press this issue, stating that development will relieve the cost of property taxes. So instead of dealing with the taxation issues, they want to turn the state into New Jersey. Tract housing, mini malls, strip malls, etc. There is nothing sadder than an auction held by a farmer as he sells out to a developer, a farm that has been in his family for generations. Some have children who have taken up farming so that they can hold on. We support small farms, and it took many years to finally see conservatives join the movement. It took maga families and their turn toward traditional values, and health to make this happen. Take a drive through New Hampshire and Vermont for foliage, you will see the difference in the land. Now, the only preserved land in NH is state forests, up here, the preserved land is privately owned, and working. All those fields and orchards are producing. Where one person sees 50 acres as empty and envisions paving it and developing it, I see 50 acres of good hay to feed the cows and sheep through the winter.The legislature passed, around 20 years ago, tax relief in the way of land use. If you set up a little farmstand for your extra produce, you can claim a land use exemption on property tax, if you build a garage or a swimming pool, you will get taxed. If you build a barn for your goats and hens, or for equipment storage, you claim an exemption.
Contact Frank VanderSloot Riverbend Ranch/Melaleuca and see how he did it.He has made his own meat processing plant for his company and the ranchers in the community because he didn’t want to be at the mercy of foreign companies.
time for an Originalist lawsuit to overturn the New Deal era federal power expansionists? Federalist Alexander Hamilton and framers of the Constitution did not write the commerce clause with the meaning that Congress could prohibit intrastate economic activity, especially agriculture.
Wickard v. Filburn 1942 the New Deal Sup. Ct. justices allowed Congress to limit how much a farmer could grow wheat for his family’s own personal use!
This is a perfect example of how government squeezes small businesses to allow only.large corporations (which can be controlled by legislation and power inbreeding).
This is stupid. No such crazy restrictions here. I take whatever animal I want where I want and they butcher and pack for me.
Shop farms frens. Make friends with farmers. You can get quality pork, chicken, and beef for less than supermarket prices and the quality cant be beat.
One lb of farm beef is worth 1.5 - 2 lbs of store bought beef every day of the week. Same for chicken and pork.
This is a HUGE issue for meat producers. HUGE.
I don't care if it's poultry, pork or beef. It's an absolute conspiracy.
Take poultry for instance. Large enough producers have USDA people ON STAFF and don't have to take their birds anywhere to be processed.
The nearest USDA facility to me is nearly 6 HOURS AWAY - Are those birds going to arrive alive after all that stress if transport? You're going to have a high percentage of mortality from farm to facility.
And in case you're not getting it....all animals to be slaughtered MUST ARRIVE ALIVE.
SO MUCH of our food is manipulated and regulated that there's NO WAY you can REALLY survive, let alone compete with larger outfits & as a result, they control the pricing and because of economies of scale, they've already got a wider profit margin right from the start.
You could go the Joel Salatin slaughter on the farm route, but that's going to vary by state and there's a limit of I think 1,000 birds per year... which is nothing.
But yanno... this is the land of the free and home of the brave, so we should be thankful for that and keep quiet & eat your factory food.
I looked at raising meat chickens, but we don’t have a State or USDA poultry processor nearby. Even if we did it would take a substantial cut of the profit from selling direct to consumers.
I know in my state the limit for on farm poultry processing is 20,000 chickens. Above 1,000 there are some additional hurdles, but they don’t seem too complex and no inspection of the animals is required.
What stops me is the thought of putting together a team that can process that many birds. If we can’t find help to make small square bales of hay, I’m doubtful people will want to process chickens.
A loud "Roger that", fren.
I know exactly what you mean
Beef Aged on the hoof...
No really that is ridiculous. in many places you can buy a whole, half or quarter cow. Perhaps if you sell it live then offer meat cutting service seperately?
I believe that's the current work around. I think they sell "shares" of the livestock and then you need to set up the butcher
That's thinking outside the box! I like the cut of your jib!!
This is how I did it. I would feed out a few head, sell a half or quarter to the customer, tell them what day it was going in for slaughter, drop off animal at butcher, pick up payment from customer, tell them to call with their cutlist, butcher does the rest and customer is responsible for picking up meat and paying butcher.
My local facility will label USDA inspected for resale for $40 a head.
That’s how my neighbor has done it.
After 50y of being a roadblock in the way of both commerce and agriculture while threatening everyone at the same time, is the USDA ever going to be a legit organization? No. Addiction to the graft.
How much money in back-pay and interest on the amount outstanding are farmers owed just in NH because of this, tens of billions of dollars? Unbelievable.
https://colsa.unh.edu/new-hampshire-agricultural-experiment-station/latest-research/inspired-research-reports-nh-agricultural-experiment-station/inspired-food-markets-nutrition-community-dynamics-report-2023
https://nitter.poast.org/beefinitiative/status/1967331209123651626
Power to the Farmers and their Freedom of choices.
Amen! I'm sure this is on POTUS' List...
They want us to buy the shit grain fed/soy fed meat held together with meat glues, and synthetic proteins. Because proper grass fed/grass finished beef is some of the most nutrient dense/amino packed foods we can get.
This is why I think that deer are being messed with. They are trying to in my own opinion kill our natural food sources. By way of diseasing our natural lands, and animals, and especially waters
Something doesn’t sound totally right in this story. New Hampshire seems to need three things: smarter State Representatives, better news reporters, and more State or USDA Inspected meat processors.
I’ve lived in three different states that had different levels of legal meat processing: Custom, State Inspected, and USDA Inspected.
Custom butchering is the term for someone buying a live animal (whole or on shares) and having it butchered for their use only. There is no inspection for custom processing.
A farmer can only sell red meat directly to a consumer if it is processed in an inspected facility. If it’s USDA inspected they can sell direct to consumers nationwide.
If it’s State Inspected they can sell direct to consumers within the state. And, fairly recently there is a provision where state inspected facilities can qualify to ship out of state. New Hampshire can control its own destiny by enabling more State Inspected meat processors.
If this doesn't kill statist influence in NH, nothing will.
Now let's discuss the raw milk conspiracy.
Yes! 🤬
We have four in Vermont. It is an agricultural state, maybe that is why? These facilities came about around 20 years ago. About 20 years ago the state made an effort to put agriculture on the same level as tourism, our products sell across the country, the meat, with a niche market, (grass fed, organic) farmers are doing well up here. The town I am closest too also built a usda processing plant for canning, freezing, packaging other produce for smaller operations, applesauce, salsa, barbecue sauce, organic vegetables, available to the less than 10 acre farms. If you slaughter yourself, or go to a smaller processing operation, you can still sell to individual buyers, but not to retail. There are mobile units that come right to your homestead and do all the poultry right there, they meet inspections qualifications, but do not have the stamp. If you have 50 turkeys, and a large refrigerated area, the local farmers put out an advert ahead of time, taking orders, this is done sometime in mid summer, so the farmer knows how much to slaughter. Small is better. It may not feed the country, but it can feed the state. Farm to table sells to schools, hospitals, and of course, restaurants.
Wow...this is the way!
The state had to do something, we were losing farms to development, it became political unfortunately, because many saw this as an anti business climate. It is an anti development issue, and not just because of "scenery". Farming is a business, albeit not a tax generator. And there lies the battle. Property taxes are very high here, because so many small towns have low population and no tax base. The developers press this issue, stating that development will relieve the cost of property taxes. So instead of dealing with the taxation issues, they want to turn the state into New Jersey. Tract housing, mini malls, strip malls, etc. There is nothing sadder than an auction held by a farmer as he sells out to a developer, a farm that has been in his family for generations. Some have children who have taken up farming so that they can hold on. We support small farms, and it took many years to finally see conservatives join the movement. It took maga families and their turn toward traditional values, and health to make this happen. Take a drive through New Hampshire and Vermont for foliage, you will see the difference in the land. Now, the only preserved land in NH is state forests, up here, the preserved land is privately owned, and working. All those fields and orchards are producing. Where one person sees 50 acres as empty and envisions paving it and developing it, I see 50 acres of good hay to feed the cows and sheep through the winter.The legislature passed, around 20 years ago, tax relief in the way of land use. If you set up a little farmstand for your extra produce, you can claim a land use exemption on property tax, if you build a garage or a swimming pool, you will get taxed. If you build a barn for your goats and hens, or for equipment storage, you claim an exemption.
...How did people eat before the government made a department of agriculture to assist? 🤔
Contact Frank VanderSloot Riverbend Ranch/Melaleuca and see how he did it.He has made his own meat processing plant for his company and the ranchers in the community because he didn’t want to be at the mercy of foreign companies.
Yes! THIS IS THE WAY!
This is terrible!
Time to fire a bunch of usda assholes. New hampshire go for it. Live free
time for an Originalist lawsuit to overturn the New Deal era federal power expansionists? Federalist Alexander Hamilton and framers of the Constitution did not write the commerce clause with the meaning that Congress could prohibit intrastate economic activity, especially agriculture.
Wickard v. Filburn 1942 the New Deal Sup. Ct. justices allowed Congress to limit how much a farmer could grow wheat for his family’s own personal use!
Thanks fren! Wasn't aware of this law limiting the amount of wheat grown for personal use. Unbelievable!
This is a perfect example of how government squeezes small businesses to allow only.large corporations (which can be controlled by legislation and power inbreeding).
Correct!
Forbidden? It's been legal here in Wyoming for years. Somebody doesn't know what they're talking about.
This is stupid. No such crazy restrictions here. I take whatever animal I want where I want and they butcher and pack for me.
Shop farms frens. Make friends with farmers. You can get quality pork, chicken, and beef for less than supermarket prices and the quality cant be beat.
One lb of farm beef is worth 1.5 - 2 lbs of store bought beef every day of the week. Same for chicken and pork.
Amish processors are best.
Maybe they should rally around and set up their own plant. I thought another group of ranchers did that.