Gotta get rid of Jim Farley first, that guy is a moron. I'm blown away he even made it past a manager position at any point in his life let alone becoming the ceo
That is part of it, from a more insider perspective, most companies production and design got put on cruise control because of all the covid BS, then slack-from-home helped finish it off.
What's happen to all these engines is two fold, one fold is what you said, smaller size, turbo, extremely thin oil. The other fold is lack of oversight that led to problems, then that same lack of oversight led to problems that continued WAY longer than they should have.
The main reason we're are hearing about them now is the method of failure. Engines, for the most part, used to fail from ring/piston failures which caused catastrophic compression loss which lead to break downs.
There is no regulation against making shitty engines. There are, however, rules against shitty engines that shot piston/rods out the side of the block in an explosion that leads to a complete failure.
Most of these newer cars are suffering from improper crank and/or rod bearing designs that are blasting the piston and/rod through the block. Still more of a "shitty motor" issue BUT that failure method has a very high likelihood of creating a fire. That, in the other hand, is a big problem in the eyes of regulators.
THAT is why you're hearding about these engines failures so much. Everyone is having them, even Toyota trucks have been having engines failure far beyond what they used to.
These companies are going to have to spread these EV losses through cost cutting and/or poorly developed products for years so it will probably get worse before it gets better.
CAFE standards are a HUGE deal in the auto industry, especially the in the normal "commuter" type vehicles.
The larger aspect of this that is far less covered is that companies that didn't meet fuel economy standards on either full fleet or an individual model (usually performance cars that couldn't pass standards emissions) were allowed to "purchase" carbon credits from manufacturers making "eco friendly" cars (think Tesla) to help offset their transgressions.
That's part of the reason that this Trump administration EV kill shot hurts so bad. Everyone knew about the tax credits but the REAL money came from the carbon credits being horse traded by companies found to make "ethical" products. Complete socialism of the industry.
Its also part of the reason you haven't seen many sport cars in the last 10 years, costs too much money to do between R/D, crash safety, and carbon credits and why the EV companies are dropping like flies.
I think this is done as a tax write off, but from what I’ve heard, they will have a hybrid of sorts with a gas generator charging the battery. Very efficient and about >600 miles of range plus smaller battery so more affordable.
So alot of people I know have the Tesla now and for long drives they have to go to one of those electric charging stations, sit in their cars for 30 mins and pay $20 or more to charge their EV. 30 mins of their time waiting for car to re-charge? No thanks. PLUS I googled Motor Vehicle registration fee for fully electronic vehicle in NJ --copied below: Regular registration fee is $50-$70/year
In New Jersey, Tesla (EV) registration involves standard fees plus a new, escalating Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) fee, which for
new vehicles registered in 2024 is a $1,000 upfront charge (four years of $250/year), increasing annually, while renewals are $250/year in 2024, rising to $290 by 2028. These EV fees supplement regular registration costs and fund the Transportation Trust Fund, with the total fee depending on your vehicle's initial registration year and if it's new or used
Crazy. I've resisted EVs, knowing the US mandate would be reversed.
Its just a shame how much effort went into a product that was too unmarketable for now. If storage tech can be refined a bit more, remove the need for exotic/rare materials, maybe then, though i still wouldnt want one. Hydrogen vehicles is the next stop after gas.
I tests drove one. It was fun as heck. Super quick! I floored it every time! I would use one around town for fun but really impractical as a work truck.
Pardon me for asking but I tried to make a post right above you but my message doesn’t show, just the title. I’m pretty new to GAW and I can’t find how to fix this anywhere. Don’t you just select text post, type message and save?
Usually it's quick, but sometimes it takes a few minutes (like 10+) for it to load. Maybe just refresh in a bit.
Also you need the title in one field and the text of your post in a separate field. If you forgot the title it may not have saved. If at first you don't succeed, ... keep trying! Nice to have you here!
Edit: if it's called "Brown shooting" it looks like you did it right.
…and the Edsel drops to #2 on Ford’s list of disasters.
Now put some real v8 in them instead of the turbo crap.
My ‘89 F250 plow truck with the 460 is running strong.
I had the 87,I loved that truck...
It’s amazing. Starting to need some suspension and exhaust work but sounds great. And is super powerful. Classic teal blue and white.
I used to drive mine loaded down in the mountains west of Denver. It really pulled the hills nice.
Amen brother I have the last year 460 produced 1996 I believe. Sucks gas but the beast can torQue
Coyote 5.0L V8 Gen 4....
At a minimum........
The new f150 with coyote gets about 20mpg. My Tacoma 6 cyl didn’t get that. I traded for an f150. Best decision.
Gotta get rid of Jim Farley first, that guy is a moron. I'm blown away he even made it past a manager position at any point in his life let alone becoming the ceo
AND CHANGE THE AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSIONS instead of the "constant velocity transmission" crap!!!!
Luckily I haven't had one of those yet.
MDGA - Make Detroit great agin.....
Obviously nothing could go bad with a wet oil pump belt....
I watched a video the other day Chevy has had 700k engine blow up they are pushing the envelope to far,and the engine today's trucks are dog shit.
That is part of it, from a more insider perspective, most companies production and design got put on cruise control because of all the covid BS, then slack-from-home helped finish it off.
What's happen to all these engines is two fold, one fold is what you said, smaller size, turbo, extremely thin oil. The other fold is lack of oversight that led to problems, then that same lack of oversight led to problems that continued WAY longer than they should have.
The main reason we're are hearing about them now is the method of failure. Engines, for the most part, used to fail from ring/piston failures which caused catastrophic compression loss which lead to break downs.
There is no regulation against making shitty engines. There are, however, rules against shitty engines that shot piston/rods out the side of the block in an explosion that leads to a complete failure.
Most of these newer cars are suffering from improper crank and/or rod bearing designs that are blasting the piston and/rod through the block. Still more of a "shitty motor" issue BUT that failure method has a very high likelihood of creating a fire. That, in the other hand, is a big problem in the eyes of regulators.
THAT is why you're hearding about these engines failures so much. Everyone is having them, even Toyota trucks have been having engines failure far beyond what they used to.
These companies are going to have to spread these EV losses through cost cutting and/or poorly developed products for years so it will probably get worse before it gets better.
Thanks for the details. I assume this was done to make them more fuel efficient?
CAFE standards are a HUGE deal in the auto industry, especially the in the normal "commuter" type vehicles.
The larger aspect of this that is far less covered is that companies that didn't meet fuel economy standards on either full fleet or an individual model (usually performance cars that couldn't pass standards emissions) were allowed to "purchase" carbon credits from manufacturers making "eco friendly" cars (think Tesla) to help offset their transgressions.
That's part of the reason that this Trump administration EV kill shot hurts so bad. Everyone knew about the tax credits but the REAL money came from the carbon credits being horse traded by companies found to make "ethical" products. Complete socialism of the industry.
Its also part of the reason you haven't seen many sport cars in the last 10 years, costs too much money to do between R/D, crash safety, and carbon credits and why the EV companies are dropping like flies.
I've heard of the carbon credits being purchased but forgot about them,
We need to do away with all this crap.
Nobody asked for hybrid trucks either.
But they are so convenient, you can carry a huge diesel generator in the bed.
The only EV's worth buying are made by Electro-Voice....
Yep…My Eliminator 1 lasted 30 years for me!
You should hear what a couple of Evolve 50's can do....
I seen that coming from a mile away. They could've hired me and saved thirteen billion. Dumb asses.
I would have worked as your advisor and only charged three billion.
I think this is done as a tax write off, but from what I’ve heard, they will have a hybrid of sorts with a gas generator charging the battery. Very efficient and about >600 miles of range plus smaller battery so more affordable.
So alot of people I know have the Tesla now and for long drives they have to go to one of those electric charging stations, sit in their cars for 30 mins and pay $20 or more to charge their EV. 30 mins of their time waiting for car to re-charge? No thanks. PLUS I googled Motor Vehicle registration fee for fully electronic vehicle in NJ --copied below: Regular registration fee is $50-$70/year
In New Jersey, Tesla (EV) registration involves standard fees plus a new, escalating Zero Emission Vehicle (ZEV) fee, which for new vehicles registered in 2024 is a $1,000 upfront charge (four years of $250/year), increasing annually, while renewals are $250/year in 2024, rising to $290 by 2028. These EV fees supplement regular registration costs and fund the Transportation Trust Fund, with the total fee depending on your vehicle's initial registration year and if it's new or used
Crazy. I've resisted EVs, knowing the US mandate would be reversed.
Its just a shame how much effort went into a product that was too unmarketable for now. If storage tech can be refined a bit more, remove the need for exotic/rare materials, maybe then, though i still wouldnt want one. Hydrogen vehicles is the next stop after gas.
Bank on that.
I tests drove one. It was fun as heck. Super quick! I floored it every time! I would use one around town for fun but really impractical as a work truck.
Was one of the most badass trucks leading up to the early 2000’s, they ruined it with the EV BS and glad to see that it is getting scrapped
Nelson says…
A BAD IDEA gone BAD! jmo
Pardon me for asking but I tried to make a post right above you but my message doesn’t show, just the title. I’m pretty new to GAW and I can’t find how to fix this anywhere. Don’t you just select text post, type message and save?
Usually it's quick, but sometimes it takes a few minutes (like 10+) for it to load. Maybe just refresh in a bit.
Also you need the title in one field and the text of your post in a separate field. If you forgot the title it may not have saved. If at first you don't succeed, ... keep trying! Nice to have you here!
Edit: if it's called "Brown shooting" it looks like you did it right.
About time. I was going to feel sorry for those that bought it, then i remembered, "they bought it."