Wrong incentive. She should have said they have until 12/31 of this year to self deport or the $1000 is going away. Otherwise, some will think, hey by staying longer they might be willing to pay us even more.
I agree, but I'm hoping this is setting the stage for serious hammer-dropping later.
Will be difficult to argue (although Leftards still will) that the current administration didn't do enough to make it easy and advantageous to leave when it comes time to forcibly eject the remainder later.
This. First, why the fuck am I paying criminal illegals in the first place, that already makes me mad.
Second, you are 100% correct. In professional sales there's something we call 'diminishing discounts'. For example:
1st discount 10%
2nd discount 5%
3rd discount 2%
It subconsciously tells the customer that his discounts are running out (even though they're not really). The reverse of this is how some sales people screw up by doing the opposite, the customer realizes if he keeps asking, he gets more and more and more.
They're paying them because it's much cheaper for them to be paid 1000 dollars than to spend $20,000 dollars for a ten person ICE swat team for 6-8 hours to get them and take them in, plus there is always some stupid fucking white bitch with a cellphone capturing it all and putting it on social media that then generates leftist fake anti-DHS headlines about how 'masked brownshirts' kidnapped a poor future astronaut and father from his home
So as a business decision its smart. You guys are also right that it should be limited time only, ACT NOW to get the full amount or else it starts to go down
The logic is that it's literally cheaper to pay someone $1,000 then the money at cost to do intel, and then send an ice to grab them, and then deport them.
No, I get it but I still hate it. It's a different avenue to get deportations up which i obviously very much like. What i hate is that they were ever allowed into the country in high enough amounts that my tax dollars would ever PAY FUCKING CRIMINALS. many of which have hurt, killed, robbed, and raped MY fellow Americans. And IM GOING TO PAY THEM?
The whole "illegal aliens being here" situation is beyond infuriating; however, they ARE here and, as such, we have to deal with them. So, the goals need to be 1) ACTUALLY getting them outta here and 2) doing it as fast and as cheaply as possible. Paying them to self-deport sucks but it absolutely makes business sense and short-term bonus amounts "should" incent more to go sooner:
Forcible deportation ~$17k-$20k + more time/effort (manpower, vehicles, equipment, administrative paperwork/bureaucracy) + more dangerous (to everyone: ICE, national guard, police, aliens and general public) + increased possibility of lawfare IF they are EVER located and deported
Self-deportation $3k + plane ticket = ~$5k + more expedient (deportee self-identifies, presents themselves for processing, deportation is certain and much faster), better optics/PR, safer, and self-deportee retains the possibility of legally coming back
I can speak on behalf of the 1995-99 kids... everyone's pretty fucked lol. I have a good job and a house and im in the absolute minority in my age... 99% of us are stuck renting, stuck in low wage jobs, barely scraping by, miserable and depressed.
Even me with a good job (right at the 6 figure mark) I have very little disposable income despite not having a family. Just this year im finally able to direct some towards "savings" (savings in quotes because I just invest into stocks or crypto... no interest in sitting on a pile of fiat)
I am - massively. I prepared for 6 months, but with all the fed jobs being cut, the H1B Visas, companies being afraid to offer remote positions, and other market factors I haven't found anything in my field since I was caught up in a mass-layoff late last year. I'm trying to find something local but everything local is stuff like stocking shelves, loading trucks, or standing all day. With my back and neck issues and nerve damage I can't do that stuff. I have worked remotely for well over a decade. Now the opportunities are drying up.
If I could move to Dallas or Houston I could probably get a job, but I can't sell my house and find another with a remotely close interest rate (2.25%), and nothing is selling this time of year anyway. Driving to either place is impossible - one is ~2 hours one way and the other is ~4 hours one way.
I have partial VA disability benefits but the case is still open with a long way to go before they realize and acknowledge the damage I have. It never ceases to amaze me how they send me for x-rays when they know damn well the nerve damage and neuropathy require CT scans/MRIs/EMG tests. It's maddening - my medical records catalogue everything I submitted for and some stuff was initially denied due to "no evidence". I submitted in November 2024...
I will be taking courses through the VA to get me some needed IT certifications but orientation isn't until the 29th. Hopefully that eventually helps. Until then I'm dealing with recruiters constantly ghosting me, 5-10 Indian recruiters (usually from the same company) contacting me for jobs I'm not qualified for and even sending them to me directly on Linked-In but using someone else's first name. I've even had to blacklist a few of them when they sent me someone else's information. They are a scourge.
Oh - I'm a Gen Xer. That makes it all the more fun trying to get back into my field when nearly every interview I get is with much younger people. I've had 3 with interviewers my age, and 2 of them were ready to hire me but both companies stopped hiring when they got worried about the tariffs earlier in the year. Both were US companies (one was even local) with international offices and were worried about parts sourcing. That will lift eventually, but probably not until the end of their fiscal year.
I'm not going to complain about this. Do whatever works.
I will say though that congress best not bitch and stall about sending 2k to Americans asap. Individuals. Not just one pymt per household. That's cheating. Consider it payment for pain and suffering, of which we have had much, of several varieties.
Well we are collecting, or trying to, 5k from forced deportees, I am thinking they'll take your car, bank account, cash on hand, anything of value to meet that 5k.
Wrong incentive. She should have said they have until 12/31 of this year to self deport or the $1000 is going away. Otherwise, some will think, hey by staying longer they might be willing to pay us even more.
Exactly! This is a well-meaning, but bad idea.
I agree, but I'm hoping this is setting the stage for serious hammer-dropping later.
Will be difficult to argue (although Leftards still will) that the current administration didn't do enough to make it easy and advantageous to leave when it comes time to forcibly eject the remainder later.
agreed. trump is a good negotiator the er is coming
I have no problem with this,it will save us gobs of money.
Agree
This. First, why the fuck am I paying criminal illegals in the first place, that already makes me mad.
Second, you are 100% correct. In professional sales there's something we call 'diminishing discounts'. For example:
It subconsciously tells the customer that his discounts are running out (even though they're not really). The reverse of this is how some sales people screw up by doing the opposite, the customer realizes if he keeps asking, he gets more and more and more.
They're paying them because it's much cheaper for them to be paid 1000 dollars than to spend $20,000 dollars for a ten person ICE swat team for 6-8 hours to get them and take them in, plus there is always some stupid fucking white bitch with a cellphone capturing it all and putting it on social media that then generates leftist fake anti-DHS headlines about how 'masked brownshirts' kidnapped a poor future astronaut and father from his home
So as a business decision its smart. You guys are also right that it should be limited time only, ACT NOW to get the full amount or else it starts to go down
The logic is that it's literally cheaper to pay someone $1,000 then the money at cost to do intel, and then send an ice to grab them, and then deport them.
No, I get it but I still hate it. It's a different avenue to get deportations up which i obviously very much like. What i hate is that they were ever allowed into the country in high enough amounts that my tax dollars would ever PAY FUCKING CRIMINALS. many of which have hurt, killed, robbed, and raped MY fellow Americans. And IM GOING TO PAY THEM?
Oh I completely agree with you. It's insane to me.
The whole "illegal aliens being here" situation is beyond infuriating; however, they ARE here and, as such, we have to deal with them. So, the goals need to be 1) ACTUALLY getting them outta here and 2) doing it as fast and as cheaply as possible. Paying them to self-deport sucks but it absolutely makes business sense and short-term bonus amounts "should" incent more to go sooner:
Forcible deportation ~$17k-$20k + more time/effort (manpower, vehicles, equipment, administrative paperwork/bureaucracy) + more dangerous (to everyone: ICE, national guard, police, aliens and general public) + increased possibility of lawfare IF they are EVER located and deported
Self-deportation $3k + plane ticket = ~$5k + more expedient (deportee self-identifies, presents themselves for processing, deportation is certain and much faster), better optics/PR, safer, and self-deportee retains the possibility of legally coming back
Savings = ~$12k-$15k + better all-around (administrative/legal/safety/equipment/time savings/expediency + safer + better optics/PR)
I totally get the "business/ financial" portion....
But then again we'll
spend 97 million on gender studies in Pakistan
Funding for LGBTQ+ advocacy in countries like Jamaica and Uganda,
A Sesame Street-style show in Iraq,
Vegetable gardens in El Salvador,
Mushroom/pea marketing in Guatemala,
Artisanal salt production in Ecuador,
Beekeeping in Brazil.
but decide kicking illegals raping, killing, and stealing in our country as "too" expensive.
Cool. LOL
Maybe we could actually use our military to actually defend our homeland instead of them being politically tied.
This same logic, if we were actually attacked maybe we could pay them to stop lolol.
More rationale/support for the $3k (and potential for higher $) - https://x.com/THEDuaneCates/status/2003526216028938734
or
https://nitter.net/THEDuaneCates/status/2003526216028938734
Maybe need to make some paper flyers to advertise the deal, and hang them up at Home Depot's and other areas where illegals congregate.
Pic of Speedy Gonzales on the flyers...“¡Ándale! ¡Ándale! ¡Arriba! ¡Arriba!”....$3,000!...
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zOvyRjVQLjE
Made me 😆 laugh!
Honest question
How many yall struggling?
I'm doing fine.
I started preparing in 2008 for this. Thought it would happen differently back then amd sooner. But we are well positioned.
Great I ask because of curiosity. I'm worried about younger Americans.
I can speak on behalf of the 1995-99 kids... everyone's pretty fucked lol. I have a good job and a house and im in the absolute minority in my age... 99% of us are stuck renting, stuck in low wage jobs, barely scraping by, miserable and depressed.
Even me with a good job (right at the 6 figure mark) I have very little disposable income despite not having a family. Just this year im finally able to direct some towards "savings" (savings in quotes because I just invest into stocks or crypto... no interest in sitting on a pile of fiat)
Dont let 401ks slip its free money if your employer matches
Ive got that going, I like to forget about it :) employer is matching
I retired really early because of maxing every year.
I am - massively. I prepared for 6 months, but with all the fed jobs being cut, the H1B Visas, companies being afraid to offer remote positions, and other market factors I haven't found anything in my field since I was caught up in a mass-layoff late last year. I'm trying to find something local but everything local is stuff like stocking shelves, loading trucks, or standing all day. With my back and neck issues and nerve damage I can't do that stuff. I have worked remotely for well over a decade. Now the opportunities are drying up.
If I could move to Dallas or Houston I could probably get a job, but I can't sell my house and find another with a remotely close interest rate (2.25%), and nothing is selling this time of year anyway. Driving to either place is impossible - one is ~2 hours one way and the other is ~4 hours one way.
I have partial VA disability benefits but the case is still open with a long way to go before they realize and acknowledge the damage I have. It never ceases to amaze me how they send me for x-rays when they know damn well the nerve damage and neuropathy require CT scans/MRIs/EMG tests. It's maddening - my medical records catalogue everything I submitted for and some stuff was initially denied due to "no evidence". I submitted in November 2024...
I will be taking courses through the VA to get me some needed IT certifications but orientation isn't until the 29th. Hopefully that eventually helps. Until then I'm dealing with recruiters constantly ghosting me, 5-10 Indian recruiters (usually from the same company) contacting me for jobs I'm not qualified for and even sending them to me directly on Linked-In but using someone else's first name. I've even had to blacklist a few of them when they sent me someone else's information. They are a scourge.
Oh - I'm a Gen Xer. That makes it all the more fun trying to get back into my field when nearly every interview I get is with much younger people. I've had 3 with interviewers my age, and 2 of them were ready to hire me but both companies stopped hiring when they got worried about the tariffs earlier in the year. Both were US companies (one was even local) with international offices and were worried about parts sourcing. That will lift eventually, but probably not until the end of their fiscal year.
Gee, maybe ill go and tell them.my name is jose and collect 3k and take a trop to honduras for some cigars.
Poor American tax payer. Getting raped coming and going.
Very nice.
Why is the solution always to throw our money at them.
Can the American People get a break from this? We pay for the strongest military in the world, yet we have to pay invaders to leave. Just stop
Thats a pretty limited view. We spend SIGNIFICANTLY MORE to keep them here, and even to detain/deport with ICE cost a lot more.
This payment to self deport is genius, and saves us a ton of moneh
They came for money. Self Deporting costs us MUCH less then chase catch and deport.
https://nitter.net/libsoftiktok/status/2003120644796657936
I'm not going to complain about this. Do whatever works.
I will say though that congress best not bitch and stall about sending 2k to Americans asap. Individuals. Not just one pymt per household. That's cheating. Consider it payment for pain and suffering, of which we have had much, of several varieties.
Go home for the holidays!
The next incentive should be a one-way ticket to Venezuela.
Bravo. $3000 is still a bargain. She said "through the holidays". Is there an expiation date?
Well we are collecting, or trying to, 5k from forced deportees, I am thinking they'll take your car, bank account, cash on hand, anything of value to meet that 5k.
Trying to pump up the year end numbers. Great idea. Maybe we can hit 3 Million by December 31.
I am expecting another 6 Million in 2026 and 9 Million more in 2027. And at least 6 Million in 2028.
Is this a joke? We are paying them now. This is almost like admitting defeat. How hard could it be to just kick them all out? I have enough.
Edit: looking at the comments, maybe it's a good idea if it's cheaper than doing it ourselves
Cheaper than finding and deporting them ourselves.
those kiddos
is cringe, so is her little nemo lips and makeup. Tell homer to put down the makeup rifle
They should get a big goose egg, not more freebies at our expense.
Let’s see what kind of results she gets, before we criticize.
I'd have to implant a geofenced explosive microchip in them before they go.
They come back and it explodes