So tired of having to deal with lunatics in society. We waste so many resources on them. We have to pay to try these idiots, then if found guilty, feed and board them for years. Then when they get out (because, don't they always?) we'll probably have to do the same thing all over again. The answers are so simple. SPEEDY trial, death. Send the bill to their home country. And if their home country is the US (truly home, not birthright crap) then send the bill to their families.
What’s funny. Is the Dude wasn’t even directly employed by the Warehouse. He was part of a Third Party Contractor. So it’s not even like the Warehouse Company decided his pay.
I’d be willing to bet he just felt like it and decided to say stuff that may make idiots online sympathetic for clicks and clout. “Oh woe is me. The poor abused working man”
send him the bill for the lost product, lost building and the cost to the taxpayers for the massive firefighter efforts. and the time in prison that he'll be serving.
So a massive inventory warehouse doesn't have a functioning smoke detection system and industrial sprinklers installed? Which would be required by the state for the occupancy permit to be issued, especially in CA, with biannual or annual inspections required validating the systems are operational. A guy with a lighter burned the whole facility down. Doesn't pass the sniff test. Someone disabled the fire system with its fail safes in order for that scenario to happen.
yes they are especially in large high risk storage scenarios of this fuel type.
This is a paper warehouse of one of the worlds largest toilet paper manufacturers in a warehouse in a state that has the very stringent building occupancy permitting and fire code standards. NFPA 13 and NFPA 25 (among others), drive the requirements that necessitate these systems "shall" perform to the minimum requirements, which will mitigate multiple fires in multiple locations in a single structure.
"Fire Suppression Systems in Large Warehouses
Fire suppression systems are crucial for maintaining safety in large warehouses, which often contain high volumes of flammable materials and complex layouts.
Capabilities of Fire Suppression Systems
Automatic Activation: These systems are designed to activate automatically when they detect heat or smoke, allowing for rapid response to fire incidents.
Multiple Fire Control: Advanced fire suppression systems can extinguish multiple fires simultaneously. They are engineered to control and contain fires effectively, minimizing damage and protecting lives.
I have been designing fire suppression systems for 30 years. NFPA 13 does not require systems to battle multiple fires. There can be project specific requirements that mandate this but code minimum NFPA 13 does not. More than likely this warehouse was protected by ESFR sprinklers, which when flowing all 12 sprinklers that are required to be calculated, would put out a flow more than most public water systems can handle.
NFPA 25 has nothing to do with design criteria and is focused on inspections.
You said they are not designed to handle multiple fires. If what you say is true as a designer of fire suppression systems, then you would know they are and should be able to handle those kind of scenarios. I didn't say NFPA 25 is about design criteria. I referenced it as this code would be integrated part of the maintenance and operations of the system. Perhaps the water system was overwhelmed that wouldn't surprise me. But the guy lighting fires and it became a total loss seems fishy. Anyway the place is gone and that's enough debate on the internet about sprinklers for me. Cheers
So tired of having to deal with lunatics in society. We waste so many resources on them. We have to pay to try these idiots, then if found guilty, feed and board them for years. Then when they get out (because, don't they always?) we'll probably have to do the same thing all over again. The answers are so simple. SPEEDY trial, death. Send the bill to their home country. And if their home country is the US (truly home, not birthright crap) then send the bill to their families.
What’s funny. Is the Dude wasn’t even directly employed by the Warehouse. He was part of a Third Party Contractor. So it’s not even like the Warehouse Company decided his pay.
I’d be willing to bet he just felt like it and decided to say stuff that may make idiots online sympathetic for clicks and clout. “Oh woe is me. The poor abused working man”
Globalist and uniparty number one reason for wanting influx of lower IQ people.
Corporations don’t want to pay American Warehousemen. 🛎️ ding, ding, ding!
So these Corporations contract with a THIRD party labor company for lower hourly workers, usually unskilled possibly illegally in the U.S.
Worker told by his boss, they won’t contract for more money. Corporation got to cut warehouse labor costs.
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NEW: Footage shows the aftermath of the Ontario, California, fire that wiped out a 1.2M-square-foot tissue paper warehouse.
29-year-old Chamel Abdulkarim was allegedly upset about his pay, so he decided to burn the whole warehouse down.
The warehouse served the tissue paper needs of about 50 million people, according to authorities.
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2042262985511706947?s=20
✨Post shared in this post with video of the guy starting the fire -
NEW: Disgruntled employee starts massive fire at a 1.2 million square foot warehouse in Ontario, California.
29-year-old Chamel Abdulkarim was arrested on arson charges for setting a Kimberly-Clark warehouse on fire.
Abdulkarim apparently filmed himself on Instagram setting toilet paper packages in the warehouse on fire.
"You may not pay us enough to fcking live, but these btches dirt cheap... There goes your inventory," Abdulkarim apparently said.
"All you had to do is pay us enough to live. All you had to do was pay us enough to f*cking live."
The warehouse is the size of 11 city blocks. In total, 175 firefighters and 20 engines were on the scene trying to put the fire out.
No one was injured.
https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/2041954196258533877?s=20
I'm glad nobody was hurt. And I can't defend Kimberly-Clark. But the robots are coming: no workers comp, no hourly wages, and no accidental fires.
I wonder: how much was he getting paid? It shouldn't matter in one sense, but in another it does.
I thought those jobs paid pretty well.
Questions:
1)Is he an illegal alien?
2)Has someone told him that his act will only drive the cost of TP up, making more profit for those he hates?
I gotta go to the store….🛻🧻
Import the 3rd world, become the 3rd world
Illegals come here illegally, then they're trapped (wage wise).
More like he was supposed to set a forest on fire at the government's request but got confused.
he's working on a delayed schedule on that forest thing.....
This shows the mentality of people unfamiliar with the American culture.
send him the bill for the lost product, lost building and the cost to the taxpayers for the massive firefighter efforts. and the time in prison that he'll be serving.
When he goes to Prison for 20 years his Asshole is gonna need all that paper.
Get your toilet paper
I havent seen any mugshot of this asshole yet. Why not?
Here he is, this is from comment section under the second post showing him setting the fire...
https://x.com/EF517_V3/status/2042292968837587450?s=20
Catbox doesn't seem to be working right now or so link to x post 🤷‍♀️
Thanks.
So a massive inventory warehouse doesn't have a functioning smoke detection system and industrial sprinklers installed? Which would be required by the state for the occupancy permit to be issued, especially in CA, with biannual or annual inspections required validating the systems are operational. A guy with a lighter burned the whole facility down. Doesn't pass the sniff test. Someone disabled the fire system with its fail safes in order for that scenario to happen.
Fire sprinkler systems are not designed to fight fires in multiple locations at the same time.
yes they are especially in large high risk storage scenarios of this fuel type.
This is a paper warehouse of one of the worlds largest toilet paper manufacturers in a warehouse in a state that has the very stringent building occupancy permitting and fire code standards. NFPA 13 and NFPA 25 (among others), drive the requirements that necessitate these systems "shall" perform to the minimum requirements, which will mitigate multiple fires in multiple locations in a single structure.
"Fire Suppression Systems in Large Warehouses Fire suppression systems are crucial for maintaining safety in large warehouses, which often contain high volumes of flammable materials and complex layouts.
Capabilities of Fire Suppression Systems Automatic Activation: These systems are designed to activate automatically when they detect heat or smoke, allowing for rapid response to fire incidents. Multiple Fire Control: Advanced fire suppression systems can extinguish multiple fires simultaneously. They are engineered to control and contain fires effectively, minimizing damage and protecting lives.
I have been designing fire suppression systems for 30 years. NFPA 13 does not require systems to battle multiple fires. There can be project specific requirements that mandate this but code minimum NFPA 13 does not. More than likely this warehouse was protected by ESFR sprinklers, which when flowing all 12 sprinklers that are required to be calculated, would put out a flow more than most public water systems can handle.
NFPA 25 has nothing to do with design criteria and is focused on inspections.
You said they are not designed to handle multiple fires. If what you say is true as a designer of fire suppression systems, then you would know they are and should be able to handle those kind of scenarios. I didn't say NFPA 25 is about design criteria. I referenced it as this code would be integrated part of the maintenance and operations of the system. Perhaps the water system was overwhelmed that wouldn't surprise me. But the guy lighting fires and it became a total loss seems fishy. Anyway the place is gone and that's enough debate on the internet about sprinklers for me. Cheers
Hopefully the street shitter was there illegally
abdulkarim? sounds like a nice Irish bloke. was he originally for south boston? or baltimore?