Name names, give times and places, or you are not a victim. How hard is that?!?
SO asking the victims to substantiate their vague accusations is somehow victim abuse?!? Don't get to the bottom of it and call out the actual perps? Let thousands of men suffer suspicion with no evidence presented?!?
This response reduces their credibility. Who are they anyway? Maybe the anons and autists should investigate them, since they aren't willing to corroborate their experiences under oath. WUT?
We were here during PizzaGATE and Epstein Island Gate and we we were censored from one site to another as Conspiracy mongers! When WE were the ONLY ONES trying to expose women and CHILD abuse!! JUST a conspiracy! !
NOW they are back to "believe all women" even when they don't testify as to what we are supposed to believe!
BLEH indeed!
HOW can they have it both ways?? When Q and we tried to raise awareness, it was all conspiracy despite evidence OF HARM to women and children. Now we are to blindly accept victims who did not file reports and come out of the woodwork decades later. SHEESH!
So true! I've aged more than 10 years in the past 10 years ... sleepless horrified-by-what-I've-seen -nights. The stories, pictures, you're correct going from Comet Pizza gate to Epstein Island gate. They need to be on Congressional record with this 'victim' era sagas. The Democrats need to pull Trump in so much, they went after Melania and she's CALLED THE 'VICTIMS' TO THE TABLE ...IN FRONT OF CONGRESS!!! 🔥 We know Trump's innocent (Virginia Guiffre's Deposition as example), but the other side's sick with their hatred 🤢 May it ALL UNRAVEL...
I believe there was already a money payout to any "victims" that chose to seek damages from JE's Estate (lawyers/surviving brother in charge) it was a slush fund of hundreds of million dollars. Again, they sought cash payments vs. justice. Also, the NDA's signed prevent them from talking I guess. These "victims" were not just only victims - some became PREDATORS that brought more young girls/women into the arena. Just 🤢 sick. Some real innocent victims have killed themselves too, I think.
Honestly, I wouldn't want to go through the congressional hearing if I went through what they did. Every congressional hearing ends up being a shitshow where congressmen try their best to get campaign clips rather than seeking the truth. They'd likely get shouted at and have their words twisted all while being on national television. It would just be a clown show all around. Nothing productive ever happens in these meetings.
I do want to put a disclaimer, though, that just because they claim to be a victim doesn't mean they actually are one. Idk, I just don't see the hearings being productive.
justice.gov/epstein (full name count / last name count)
Doe (1) 2335/9174
Doe (2) 2276/9174
Maria Farmer 20/2107
Maria Lacerda 13/18
Sky Roberts 5/1415
Juliette Bryant 2/703
Marijke Chartouni 2/12
The others may include relatively "new" names. "Doe"s are numbered from 1 to at least 37. Why is "Jess Michaels" there twice? Why is Maria Lacerda "Marina"? Which of these generic names are still aliases?
Why would you want to appear in front of Congress? The sarcasm, manipulation of questioning, the rudeness towards witnesses. Yes, maybe some of the women are plants/liars/phonies, but those who aren’t want to get on with their life, a painful past. They don’t want to rehash it for the sexual sickos in Congress, and there are many. Why didn’t they want the Epstein files released, until they could control the narrative? Why is their a secret fund, names of which they wont divulge? Either they divulge it, or we withhold their pay just like they did with DHS. Anyone involved in illegal sexual acts, treasonous acts, being bought and paid by lobbyists and foreign countries should resign now, before the DOJ divulges your crimes.
There are some JE victims who are glad FLOTUS called for the victims to get a proper platform. Named in the below-linked msn article are Lisa Phillips (who was interviewed on a CNN show) and Maria and Annie Farmer (who spoke with Newsweek).
They have been paid enough money keep their mouths shut. Enough that it's a fortune to them, but not enough to even move the dial for their rich and powerful abusers.
Because many of these Victims, started as Victims, but became handlers / recruiters as they got older, therefore becoming complicit in all of the criminality…
Blow a k and political targeting of the victims will come to them whether or not they testify publicly, or testify behind closed doors. Not really sure what the angle is here, other than the supposed evidence against Trump is just supposition, assumptions, and hyperbole. I'm not really sure why Melania is denying the fact that Epstain was the one who originally introduced her to Trump, too. That's a known and proven fact, disclosed by numerous independent sources. But she was already at least 20 when that took place, and Epstain was already known throughout many "elite" circles, just not as an overly known pedophile and sex trafficker. Admitting he was the one who introduced them doesn't not mean she was trafficked or abused by him or anyone in that particular circle, though. Unless, of course she was and doesnt want it known.
To me this is a very weird response!!
Name names, give times and places, or you are not a victim. How hard is that?!?
SO asking the victims to substantiate their vague accusations is somehow victim abuse?!? Don't get to the bottom of it and call out the actual perps? Let thousands of men suffer suspicion with no evidence presented?!?
This response reduces their credibility. Who are they anyway? Maybe the anons and autists should investigate them, since they aren't willing to corroborate their experiences under oath. WUT?
Yes, weird 💯 agree - that response statement doesn't feel very credible or 'victimy' ...bleh.
We were here during PizzaGATE and Epstein Island Gate and we we were censored from one site to another as Conspiracy mongers! When WE were the ONLY ONES trying to expose women and CHILD abuse!! JUST a conspiracy! !
NOW they are back to "believe all women" even when they don't testify as to what we are supposed to believe!
BLEH indeed!
HOW can they have it both ways?? When Q and we tried to raise awareness, it was all conspiracy despite evidence OF HARM to women and children. Now we are to blindly accept victims who did not file reports and come out of the woodwork decades later. SHEESH!
So true! I've aged more than 10 years in the past 10 years ... sleepless horrified-by-what-I've-seen -nights. The stories, pictures, you're correct going from Comet Pizza gate to Epstein Island gate. They need to be on Congressional record with this 'victim' era sagas. The Democrats need to pull Trump in so much, they went after Melania and she's CALLED THE 'VICTIMS' TO THE TABLE ...IN FRONT OF CONGRESS!!! 🔥 We know Trump's innocent (Virginia Guiffre's Deposition as example), but the other side's sick with their hatred 🤢 May it ALL UNRAVEL...
Not weird at all, if you remember this was 'pedo' Tommyboy Massie and Marjorie "traitor" Greene's little coup to dethrone Trump.
victims turned traffickers arent victims. they may have started out as such but they arent victims anymore.
itll be hard to come forth when theres evidence against you.
Exactly!
I believe there was already a money payout to any "victims" that chose to seek damages from JE's Estate (lawyers/surviving brother in charge) it was a slush fund of hundreds of million dollars. Again, they sought cash payments vs. justice. Also, the NDA's signed prevent them from talking I guess. These "victims" were not just only victims - some became PREDATORS that brought more young girls/women into the arena. Just 🤢 sick. Some real innocent victims have killed themselves too, I think.
I believe you are correct in every aspect here.
I mean Virginia was the most vocal and look what happened to her.
Nothing surrounding the Epstein stuff in the last year is going to inspire the survivors to step up…
Honestly, I wouldn't want to go through the congressional hearing if I went through what they did. Every congressional hearing ends up being a shitshow where congressmen try their best to get campaign clips rather than seeking the truth. They'd likely get shouted at and have their words twisted all while being on national television. It would just be a clown show all around. Nothing productive ever happens in these meetings.
I do want to put a disclaimer, though, that just because they claim to be a victim doesn't mean they actually are one. Idk, I just don't see the hearings being productive.
I interpreted Melania’s comment as “ giving them an opportunity to testify if they wanted to.”
This is worded in lefty speak.
someone got to them
https://nitter.net/i/status/2042385090110525582
justice.gov/epstein (full name count / last name count)
Doe (1) 2335/9174
Doe (2) 2276/9174
Maria Farmer 20/2107
Maria Lacerda 13/18
Sky Roberts 5/1415
Juliette Bryant 2/703
Marijke Chartouni 2/12
The others may include relatively "new" names. "Doe"s are numbered from 1 to at least 37. Why is "Jess Michaels" there twice? Why is Maria Lacerda "Marina"? Which of these generic names are still aliases?
Why would you want to appear in front of Congress? The sarcasm, manipulation of questioning, the rudeness towards witnesses. Yes, maybe some of the women are plants/liars/phonies, but those who aren’t want to get on with their life, a painful past. They don’t want to rehash it for the sexual sickos in Congress, and there are many. Why didn’t they want the Epstein files released, until they could control the narrative? Why is their a secret fund, names of which they wont divulge? Either they divulge it, or we withhold their pay just like they did with DHS. Anyone involved in illegal sexual acts, treasonous acts, being bought and paid by lobbyists and foreign countries should resign now, before the DOJ divulges your crimes.
Some of their abusers may be in Congress.
Exactly.
There are some JE victims who are glad FLOTUS called for the victims to get a proper platform. Named in the below-linked msn article are Lisa Phillips (who was interviewed on a CNN show) and Maria and Annie Farmer (who spoke with Newsweek).
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/epstein-survivor-reveals-what-was-huge-about-melania-trumps-speech/ar-AA20xyRX
They have been paid enough money keep their mouths shut. Enough that it's a fortune to them, but not enough to even move the dial for their rich and powerful abusers.
If anyone thinks they know what Epstein Files are really about, then chances are that it is completely wrong
Because many of these Victims, started as Victims, but became handlers / recruiters as they got older, therefore becoming complicit in all of the criminality…
Blow a k and political targeting of the victims will come to them whether or not they testify publicly, or testify behind closed doors. Not really sure what the angle is here, other than the supposed evidence against Trump is just supposition, assumptions, and hyperbole. I'm not really sure why Melania is denying the fact that Epstain was the one who originally introduced her to Trump, too. That's a known and proven fact, disclosed by numerous independent sources. But she was already at least 20 when that took place, and Epstain was already known throughout many "elite" circles, just not as an overly known pedophile and sex trafficker. Admitting he was the one who introduced them doesn't not mean she was trafficked or abused by him or anyone in that particular circle, though. Unless, of course she was and doesnt want it known.
Keyword: PUBLIC
This only deserves a Bwah Ha Ha! Melania, you fox! Catcha.
I'd like to be sympathetic to these women, but it's becoming more and more difficult.
CIA NDA?