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TOP Elon KEK: YouTuber swaps Tesla for Lucid Air in revenge move after DOGE cuts wife's job, promotes vehicle as 'engineer's dream car' but OOPS - major issues with the car lead to official lemon declaration, car is gone within one year... Nice WORK, F@GGOT (twitter.com)
posted 41 days ago by catsfive 41 days ago by catsfive +75 / -0
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– SuckaFree 6 points 41 days ago +6 / -0

Gaaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!

How do Beta Male Simp Cuck Manginas and Diciples of The Soy keep getting women, when there is an epidemic now of women complaining that they can't find good, honest, strong, hard working, aka "real men?"

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– catsfive [S] 5 points 41 days ago +5 / -0

A YouTuber whose wife lost her job due to DOGE cuts ditched his Tesla for a Lucid Air as payback. He promoted the switch as picking the engineer's dream car but faced endless technical problems. The vehicle was declared a lemon inside one year. His review videos ended up hurting Lucid more than any comments from Elon Musk.

SOURCE: https://x.com/reddit_lies/status/2057885238290747666

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– Bedminster 4 points 41 days ago +4 / -0

PT Barnum would be proud today because his immortal words of "a sucker is born every minute" holds completely true when it comes to the electric car market. If you want to be an echo fag or just someone who wants good gas mileage getting to work get a hybrid. Hybrids are great commuter cars, get very good mileage, won't strand you, and have proven reliable technologies. EVs can't even come close.

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– TheVerboten1 2 points 41 days ago +2 / -0

Just leased a Toyota Crown Signia Limited hybrid AWD, a first for me. Similar to the Lexus Rx hybrid, same engine, drive train, etc, but kinder on the wallet. Some interesting driving features. I just couldn't do electric as much as that Tesla S looked appealing. Getting 42 mpg on first 1K miles.

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– catsfive [S] 2 points 41 days ago +2 / -0

Here in Malta where I live there is no reason to own a car. The taxi comes within 2 minutes. The hybrids are generally preferred by the drivers.

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– bluewhiteandred 2 points 41 days ago +2 / -0

I'm actually kind of confused why there aren't more EV companies (it sounds like more are popping up and maybe it's just regulations holding them back)

Isn't it just safely hooking up a bunch of batteries to a motor? The tech sounds pretty simple at its heart

(I also personally think EVs are fine versus gas cars, I don't totally understand the hate. I do realize some limitations to them though of course. Ebikes seem like a good halfway measure for EV tech)

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– MAG768720 3 points 41 days ago +3 / -0

I also personally think EVs are fine versus gas cars, I don't totally understand the hate.

OK, I will tell ya why the hate. And for some of us, it is REAL HATE.

First, we don't like people DEMANDING we switch. Not saying you are doing that, but plenty of assholes out there are.

Second, when you are driving or riding in an EV, YOU ARE SITTING ON A HUGE BATTERY -- THAT EMITS EMF's. Probably not healthy for you, or your gonads.

Third, they use up WAY MORE ENERGY than gas cars. The coal plants produce the electricity that the car plugs into. Seems a lot of people don't "get" that the electricity AIN'T FREE. The combined air pollution to create the electricity is MORE than the combined air pollution of gas cars.

Fourth, the batteries only last a few years -- then they are EXPENSIVE to replace and the old ones GO INTO A LAND FILL THAT HARMS THE SOIL.

Fifth, they are much heavier than gas cars. The combined weight in a parking garage, if they are all EV's, could crumble the garage. The garages, roads, and infractructure would need major upgrades to support the heavier load.

Sixth, no practical way to pull into a station, "fill up" in 1 minute, and be on your way. Ya gotta wait ... HOURS.

Seventh, no long range usage, at least not yet and in practical form.

Eight, they are SUBSIDIZED BY YOUR TAX DOLLARS. You should not have to fund some other guy's wet dream, just because.

Ninth, they are made by SLAVE LABOR. Some of the necessary cobalt comes from Africa, where child slaves mine it.

Tenth, the mining of the lithium for the batteries DESTROYS THE ENVIRONMENT.

And one more time ... there are people out there DEMANDING WE SWITCH (did I mention that already?) ... and WE DON'T LIKE ULTIMATUMS.

Finally, the entire narrative of EV's is BUILT ON LIES. And that is what I hate the most.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 40 days ago +1 / -0

I would demur on point two, since batteries do not produce oscillating electromagnetic fields.

But, I would replace it with the point that a lithium battery fire is perhaps the most energetic fire chemically possible, and is essentially impossible to extinguish. (The only known method is to smother it with molten metal. Have at it.) EVs in a parking garage are just a holocaust waiting to happen. An EV in your garage could burn down your house (and/or a neighbor's house). I am surprised that home insurance does not yet have an EV premium due to the increased hazard.

Your point seven is good without qualification. A conventional car with a 20-gallon tank and 25 mpg highway driving, can give you 500 miles between fill-ups. Even if an EV could drive 500 miles AND you could find a charging station, it takes you hours and hours to recharge, whereas 10 minutes at the gas pump and you are on your way. (As a humorous side note, I've seen a recent retrofit to a local Tesla charging lot, of what seems to be motor-generator sets.)

You don't list it as such, but I think the battery is a huge single-point failure node. If you run out of gas, you can walk a mile or so to a gas station. If the engine has a failure, you can get your vehicle towed to a repair shop. If an EV battery fails... I don't really know what you do at that point. A tow job to a parking lot? Trapped in a podunk town at a cockroach motel, on the phone trying to get tech support for your computerized rigor mortis automobile?

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– bluewhiteandred 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

An interesting detailed list so thank you for the response, although I feel a lot of those objections have responses plus oil and gas problems are omitted

  1. demanding we switch

gas vehicle users are often suggesting EV people switch too

  1. EMFs

good point and interesting, although the emissions from vehicles also creates smog, leading to increased lung cancer risks

  1. more energy and pollution

I think people would debate this, or might argue it's negligible anyway. I've actually seen EV people argue gas uses way more unused energy in burning gas - that would have generated much more electricity than EVs use. But, if EVs are using "renewable" energy anyway... it could use more energy but we'll get more energy from the sun or wind anyway. In contrast, gas has been thought to be limited and not renewable.

Also, there could be more pollution at the plant but it could be controlled and filtered with a heavier filter rather than the smaller filter of a gas car.

  1. Batteries only last a few years

And gas is consumed and doesn't last at all. The point about them creating waste stands, although I thought they were working on ways to recycle the materials.

  1. heavier

meh, we have trucks with heavy loads on road already, but possible point taken about garages possibly having to adapt

  1. hours charging

well, for those who can charge at home, they just plug in and wait overnight. Although gas is definitely faster here, gas also requires dependency on a large complicated distribution network to get gas, whereas electricity could be produced at home "off grid" with like solar or wind.

  1. no long range use

Yeah, although ranges keep increasing

  1. Subsidized

Not really intrinsic to EVs, just to the current state of things; the tech itself has been around for a century

  1. Slave labor

Also not intrinsic to EVs, just the labor practices around them

  1. lithium mining is bad for environment

I imagine gas and oil are pretty bad too (also with things like oil spills)

So... I find a lot of these objections kind of don't stand, and then I imagine there are probably a lot of gas car objections not mentioned

Here's some AI generated reasons why people like EVs:

  1. Cheaper operating costs: no spark plugs, oil changes, exhaust systems, and less brakes to replace with regenerative braking (which also contributes to a further range without more fuel)

  2. Quieter and smoother ride (less noise pollution)

  3. Refueling at home allows for a person to avoid a trip to gas station

  4. More flexible in their energy inputs (Renewables, coal, natural gas, etc. can be converted to electricity)

  5. Give independence from gas dependency (like, the whole Iran conflict is often being over gas with the Strait of Hormuz)

  6. More durable (besides the batteries)

(I'll note one thing I don't like about current EVs is a lot of "smart tech" being integrated in to them, but that again is more an argument against current EV tech's implementation rather than intrinsic to EVs - a lot of those features are also being added to gas cars unfortunately)

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– MAG768720 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

You and I will just have to disagree.

I don't care what an AI computer -- programmed by someone with an agenda -- spits out on your computer screen.

I would like to address two things in your response:

but we'll get more energy from the sun or wind anyway.

No, we won't. That will NEVER happen.

And if you want to talk about taxpayer subsidies, these are REALLY bad.

There is no way to do these, economically, without MASSIVE taxpayer subsidies.

In contrast, gas has been thought to be limited and not renewable.

No, it is renewable.

Old oil wells are capped, and then 10 or 20 years later they discover it is full again.

Look up: Abiotic Petroleum Theory

It's just that we might use it up faster than it renews. Thus, we need to continue to improve efficiency.

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– HenryBowman1984 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

Renewable?

A wind turbine requires more energy for building than it will create in its lifetime. Net negative from the start.

Add in the unreliable production, visual pollution, health issues created and turbines are a scheme that will go down in history as criminally negligent.

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– WhyAserverWasBuilt 2 points 41 days ago +2 / -0

I belong to an older VW group. A young guy showed up on the beach with a beautiful navy blue 1968 bug. It was quiet. Unlike the bugs. He told us it was electric! He said his father built it. He opened the back where the engine usually is, and there were a bunch of batteries hooked up. Just a home project it was.

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– bluewhiteandred 2 points 41 days ago +2 / -0

I was following like a diyEV subreddit or something, there are a few "donor cars" models you can convert from gas to EV and it doesn't sound super complicated in theory

I think like ebikes or etrikes or see electric velomobiles as good use cases for EV tech maybe. A ton of car trips are short range - unless you're hauling a bunch of goods like groceries. EVs are good for shorter ranges right now

Aptera's solar EVs looked cool too

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– dookiebutter8675309 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

The only problem i have with EVs are none of them have the range that i need to go in my travels. But mining the lithium is also pretty bad.

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– bluewhiteandred 2 points 41 days ago +2 / -0

range

yeah, that's definitely a limitation; hybrids might get around that but then that adds complexity. Good for most trips though which aren't long range

mining the lithium is also pretty bad

I've heard this but I'm pretty sure a lot of industrial processes are pretty bad, like mining for oil / gas as well, so it's kind of a wash imo

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– Hope4thefuture 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

Also you are using fossil fools to charge your electric battery, so it is just as expensive when figuring the time and frequency of charging required. There are not enough easily accessible charging stations country wide. Mileage on a charge is limited so it takes much longer to drive coast to coast.

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– dookiebutter8675309 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

That is true. It wouldnt be fully electric unless you have a nuclear powerplant supplying those charging stations instead of fossil fuels.

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– killerspacerobot 1 point 40 days ago +1 / -0

And even so, I'm pretty sure there is no safe way to transfer electrical energy to a battery at a rate comparable to transferring chemical energy to a gas tank (a gallon every10 seconds). It takes hours to empty a tank for an engine operating at maybe 100 horsepower (almost equivalent to 100 kw). That would be consistent with how long it takes to charge an EV battery for the same energy performance. To make that go 10 times faster, you would have to provide electric power at 1 megawatt. Very dangerous stuff. In all likelihood, the battery couldn't handle it.

You might be better off using that nuclear powerplant's power to produce hydrogen from water and synthesize hydrocarbon fuels out of raw or scrap carbonaceous matter (Fischer-Tropsch process).

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– God_wins 2 points 41 days ago +2 / -0

what is he driving now? Uber that has a Tesla?

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– MEGAMAGAULTRA 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

Most not be that good of an engineer to declare a lemon his/ engineers dream car lol

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– RedNonna 1 point 41 days ago +1 / -0

His hair looks a lot more gray in the last picture than it does in the first...

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