The Catholic church was compromised for a long time. Ever since Martin Luther decided to create a new Christian sect.
Since they made people pay atonement for their sins. When the Catholic church turned their church into a den of thieves. Now a den of pedophiles, fags, rapists, liars, etc.
Luther wasn't a saint, either. What he posted were sincere criticisms of the Church, but what he did after was about as bad as we are coming to find out about the Church today. He slept around and had affairs with a load of women, using his newfound power to do so.
It seems like every now and then a cabal member thinks he can do it better on his own and breaks off to start their own little empire.
I'm starting to wonder if Hitler was just another cabal member who wanted to take control from the evil families to become the new evil overlord and was simply put in his place.
The only significance of Rome is when Paul (Saul) appealed to Caesar. And Caesar saw no wrong with him. I don't know any other significant about Rome and Christianity.
Those are the ones you need to be wary about. Make self-judgment, discernment, question them, test them. Jesus warned about these types.
I'm a scientist as well. I like to apply the scientific method. How else do you conclude what is true?
I enjoy history. Even though some are distorted, I theorize about certain events and question their outcome. Remember, only the winner writes history, regardless of what the losers have done. History repeats itself because the truth is distorted.
I saw the video of him reading it out the day he sent it. Before then I knew, like everyone, that the Church was running a lot of financial rackets, but I didn't believe it was being wholly controlled by satanists.
I've been keeping an eye on Vigano but he is very doom and gloom.
It is encouraging that he sees a future with Trump as the tool of God.
Vigano is doom and gloom because our Church is in a shithole. If someone like him ever became Pope, the Catholic Church might survive. As it is, I do not know of 1 Catholic who likes the asshole Francis.
If you’re just now realizing the church has been infiltrated then you have a lot of catching up to do. I’m not knocking you but the, “conspiracy stuff” is easy to vet considering the occult is so poor at hiding what they do. Just a little digging is all it takes sometimes.
I knew they were corrupt when it came to banking and probably with Francis, but I didn't think they were full-blown satanists.
Seeing this article and knowing what I do now, I am putting together pieces that Obama and the Chicago Alinskian satanists were involved even at the very beginning of Obama's life.
It's just too fucking bizarre to NOT be true at this point.
The origin of the St Michael Prayer is when Pope Leo XIII has a vision that Satan was talking to God saying if he had 100 years of dominion over his Church he could destroy it. Many Catholics believe this 100 year period started in 1917 when the Virgin Mary appeared to the Children of Fatima in Portugal and told them unless the Church consecrates Russia to her immaculate heart the errors of Russia would spread across the world. This was followed by the miracle of the sun where tens of thousands of faithful and nonbelievers witnessed. Russia was never consecrated and her errors did spread.
Half way through that 100 years came the biggest social overthrow of tradition with divorce, abortion, the pill, the sexual revolution.
The end of this 100 year period was in 2017. Satan’s plans are being uncovered and Christ is going to restore his Church. 2018 was the beginning of the uncovering of all of the corruption within of the Church. The second coming of Christ will happen after the gospel is spread across the world and many people fall from the faith.
I am familiar with the Miracles at Fatima, and I have read several times before that they did end up consecrating Russia, but it was decades after they were supposed to.
I believe with all my heart that we are gonna finally squash the evil cabal. I don't think we'd have this victory at all if they hadn't consecrated Russia per the Mother's instructions.
It's just probably coming later than it could have been.
The Request was that the pope and bishops consecrate the church as one. John Paul did on his own and not with ALL the bishops. The conditions were not met. In testimony before a congressional committee A woman who left the church became a high communist in American and then returned to the church thru the efforts of John Cardinal Sheen of New York testified that approx 1,000 Homosexuals were recruited by the communists to infiltrate the church and corrupt it. the press covered it up.
Malachi Martin wrote Windswept House and said 80% was true stuff about the Catholic Church, even though it sold as a fiction book. I tried reading it once, but it was too dark for me. Satanic Rites with pedo stuff.
Is it possible to keep the personal bond with God strong whilst recognizing that the Catholic church hierarchy is corrupt?
I am good friends with a lot of people at a local Catholic church and I'm thinking ahead about how to talk to them if the Vatican is disgraced. I'm not Christian as such.
I don't care if even the Pope and all the cardinals are corrupt, satanist, pedos -- I'm still gonna stay Catholic. Jesus made the Church, and he said it will last for all time. It is up to us to make sure it doesn't become a crock of shit.
Part of the problem with the Catholic Church is that instead of fighting the corruption, all the people with a backbone to call out the bullshit left to form their own churches. If they had stayed and fought, the Church would never have become so soiled. It's the same with any governing body.
Things get corrupt when all the good people stop fighting for it.
This is what I've been saying to all my Catholic friends and family. We have a duty to make sure the apostolic succession is not tarnished by the filth of the world, and we've all been doing a piss-poor job of it. I do my part by teaching Religious Education and making sure the kids don't abandon Jesus for the lies of the world. I'm not gonna lie to them. If that means I have to tell them the Pope is corrupt, so be it.
Hey great response. I am also a catholic. Cant say "practicing" bc i dont usually physically attend mass but raised in it.....so on that front i agree as well.
I don't agree that Jesus created the Church. Remember, He said that the Temple will be raised up the third day. Who rosed up the third day after death?
Before the Bible was written and the Apostles did their thing in the world, there had to be some structure with a leader to keep everyone together. Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered to replace Judas as the 12th Apostle.
I am open to the idea that Apostolic Succession diverted at some point and the current Church lacks it, but I highly doubt that.
There is a chain of authority leading back to Jesus through the appointments of priests. I just pray more of those priests are good guys rather than bad.
You are Peter, and I can guarantee that on this rock I will build my church.
"Peter" translates to "rock"
He renamed Simon to Rock and said he was the foundation of the Church. He even gave him the keys to the kingdom, and thus the authority to bind and loose the sins of those among him.
It is pretty cut and dry, along all possible translations.
Wild how Peter (Rock) peradventures off to numerous places preaching the word of Christ, like a ... of some sort. What does it mean? Why didn't he just erect a ... and preach to the local people? Why not?
Dude, you really need to look up your words. In the original Greek, Jesus tells Peter he is "PETROS." Petros is a small wobbly stone. He then says upon this "PETRA" I will build my church. Petra is a large substantial stone, such as a mountain - look at the city of Petra, carved out of stone.
Jesus then proceeds to describe the "PETRA" his church is founded upon - NOT "PETROS."
He basically repeats his words to the multitudes in the Sermon on the Mount, which he repeated throughout his ministry.
Summed up, it is if you want forgiveness of sin, you must forgive. "Those things you hold on Earth are held in Heaven." "As you measure out, it shall be measured back to you. Etc.
The best advice I can give to anyone concerning Scripture is: READ WHAT IT SAYS.
Yes. Faith is not dependent on the Pope. Our faith lies in the teachings about God and Jesus as passed to us thru the apostolic succession of the man made hierarchy of the church. The Bible and the Traditions passed to us over the centuries don't depend on any ONE man. Just like any large organization there are good people and bad people. I did see a documentary type film on EWTN Wolf in Sheeps Clothing. Talked about the infiltration of the Catholic church by communists from the American Communist Party in the 1920's and 30's.
Your empathy is commendable. We will have many to care for. I grew up in a very culturally & religiously catholic family. (10 siblings, 4 became nuns) my gut says they will not be completely shocked. Nuns are often notoriously cruel - we all have stories. Kind of like when you look back and say “yea, I should have seen”
I hope that lovely supportive local church I know keeps its strength and doesn't fall apart. Those people are good and deserve better than that rotten structure.
At this point I think EWTN radio, which doesn't get funding directly from the Church, mind you, is where the real Church is alive.
They aren't afraid to call out Francis when he speaks utter bullshit. I'm convinced Mother Angelica defected after she learned the truth about the higher ups and made sure they would never get in bed with the Vatican money scam.
“He had to do a power analysis of each Catholic church,” said one of his mentors at the time, Gregory Galluzzo, a former Jesuit priest and disciple of the organizer Saul Alinsky. Mr. Obama, Mr. Galluzzo said, soon understood the chain of command and who had influence in individual parishes.
In the beginning they were. Ignatius Loyola was a Soldier before becoming a priest after being wounded. He laid the rules of the Society along Military lines. He required that everyone be educated to be able to give well thought out responses to criticism, some justified, of the church. that was the opening for the devil, he attacked the Jesuits through their schooling. My mom always wanted me to be a Jesuit, she loved them in the 50's. by the time she died in 1990 she was glad I hadn't.
A great book to read about the infiltration of the Catholic Church would be, well, "Infiltration" by Taylor Marshall. Yeah I know some people don't like him, but that book was great, had all the details, all the dates, all the names you could want to know about the infiltration. It really opened my eyes to the depths of the depravity in the Church, who's running it/behind it, and what can be done about it.
The Catholic church was compromised for a long time. Ever since Martin Luther decided to create a new Christian sect.
Since they made people pay atonement for their sins. When the Catholic church turned their church into a den of thieves. Now a den of pedophiles, fags, rapists, liars, etc.
Luther wasn't a saint, either. What he posted were sincere criticisms of the Church, but what he did after was about as bad as we are coming to find out about the Church today. He slept around and had affairs with a load of women, using his newfound power to do so.
It seems like every now and then a cabal member thinks he can do it better on his own and breaks off to start their own little empire.
I'm starting to wonder if Hitler was just another cabal member who wanted to take control from the evil families to become the new evil overlord and was simply put in his place.
I careless about Luther. He is no better than the Pope.
I am just curious about what happened to the 7 Asian minor churches that Paul (Saul) was writing letters to?
They were probably absorbed by the Eastern Orthodoxies.
It is starting to feel like they have the right of things, and may have known about all this junk all along.
Jesus did warn about false followers. It is up to you to discern who is the real Christians or not.
Research Hitler and Theosophy.
Didn't Apostle Paul (Saul) oversee the 7 Asian minor churches? Where the F did the catholic church become the mecca of Christianity?
Rome? It did not maintain the Roman empire... How do you know if Catholicism is even Christianity?
The only significance of Rome is when Paul (Saul) appealed to Caesar. And Caesar saw no wrong with him. I don't know any other significant about Rome and Christianity.
Those are the ones you need to be wary about. Make self-judgment, discernment, question them, test them. Jesus warned about these types.
I'm a scientist as well. I like to apply the scientific method. How else do you conclude what is true?
I enjoy history. Even though some are distorted, I theorize about certain events and question their outcome. Remember, only the winner writes history, regardless of what the losers have done. History repeats itself because the truth is distorted.
Did you read Cardinal Vigano's open letters to POTUS?
There is a Deep Church.
I saw the video of him reading it out the day he sent it. Before then I knew, like everyone, that the Church was running a lot of financial rackets, but I didn't believe it was being wholly controlled by satanists.
I've been keeping an eye on Vigano but he is very doom and gloom.
It is encouraging that he sees a future with Trump as the tool of God.
Vigano is doom and gloom because our Church is in a shithole. If someone like him ever became Pope, the Catholic Church might survive. As it is, I do not know of 1 Catholic who likes the asshole Francis.
If you’re just now realizing the church has been infiltrated then you have a lot of catching up to do. I’m not knocking you but the, “conspiracy stuff” is easy to vet considering the occult is so poor at hiding what they do. Just a little digging is all it takes sometimes.
I knew they were corrupt when it came to banking and probably with Francis, but I didn't think they were full-blown satanists.
Seeing this article and knowing what I do now, I am putting together pieces that Obama and the Chicago Alinskian satanists were involved even at the very beginning of Obama's life.
It's just too fucking bizarre to NOT be true at this point.
The Catholic Church has been full of non-believers for hundreds of years. Where have you been?
The origin of the St Michael Prayer is when Pope Leo XIII has a vision that Satan was talking to God saying if he had 100 years of dominion over his Church he could destroy it. Many Catholics believe this 100 year period started in 1917 when the Virgin Mary appeared to the Children of Fatima in Portugal and told them unless the Church consecrates Russia to her immaculate heart the errors of Russia would spread across the world. This was followed by the miracle of the sun where tens of thousands of faithful and nonbelievers witnessed. Russia was never consecrated and her errors did spread.
Half way through that 100 years came the biggest social overthrow of tradition with divorce, abortion, the pill, the sexual revolution.
The end of this 100 year period was in 2017. Satan’s plans are being uncovered and Christ is going to restore his Church. 2018 was the beginning of the uncovering of all of the corruption within of the Church. The second coming of Christ will happen after the gospel is spread across the world and many people fall from the faith.
I am familiar with the Miracles at Fatima, and I have read several times before that they did end up consecrating Russia, but it was decades after they were supposed to.
I believe with all my heart that we are gonna finally squash the evil cabal. I don't think we'd have this victory at all if they hadn't consecrated Russia per the Mother's instructions.
It's just probably coming later than it could have been.
The Request was that the pope and bishops consecrate the church as one. John Paul did on his own and not with ALL the bishops. The conditions were not met. In testimony before a congressional committee A woman who left the church became a high communist in American and then returned to the church thru the efforts of John Cardinal Sheen of New York testified that approx 1,000 Homosexuals were recruited by the communists to infiltrate the church and corrupt it. the press covered it up.
Malachi Martin wrote Windswept House and said 80% was true stuff about the Catholic Church, even though it sold as a fiction book. I tried reading it once, but it was too dark for me. Satanic Rites with pedo stuff.
I love listening to his interviews.
I've been worrying about you Catholics.
Is it possible to keep the personal bond with God strong whilst recognizing that the Catholic church hierarchy is corrupt?
I am good friends with a lot of people at a local Catholic church and I'm thinking ahead about how to talk to them if the Vatican is disgraced. I'm not Christian as such.
I hope not to offend with this question
I don't care if even the Pope and all the cardinals are corrupt, satanist, pedos -- I'm still gonna stay Catholic. Jesus made the Church, and he said it will last for all time. It is up to us to make sure it doesn't become a crock of shit.
Part of the problem with the Catholic Church is that instead of fighting the corruption, all the people with a backbone to call out the bullshit left to form their own churches. If they had stayed and fought, the Church would never have become so soiled. It's the same with any governing body.
Things get corrupt when all the good people stop fighting for it.
This is what I've been saying to all my Catholic friends and family. We have a duty to make sure the apostolic succession is not tarnished by the filth of the world, and we've all been doing a piss-poor job of it. I do my part by teaching Religious Education and making sure the kids don't abandon Jesus for the lies of the world. I'm not gonna lie to them. If that means I have to tell them the Pope is corrupt, so be it.
Agreed!!! My faith is not dependent on the Church hierarchy. I believe in the church Jesus Christ founded. The faithful have to fight for it.
That's what I was hoping to hear fren!
Hey great response. I am also a catholic. Cant say "practicing" bc i dont usually physically attend mass but raised in it.....so on that front i agree as well.
I don't agree that Jesus created the Church. Remember, He said that the Temple will be raised up the third day. Who rosed up the third day after death?
.elpmet ym si ydob ym
Nah, he founded a Church.
Before the Bible was written and the Apostles did their thing in the world, there had to be some structure with a leader to keep everyone together. Otherwise they wouldn't have bothered to replace Judas as the 12th Apostle.
I am open to the idea that Apostolic Succession diverted at some point and the current Church lacks it, but I highly doubt that.
There is a chain of authority leading back to Jesus through the appointments of priests. I just pray more of those priests are good guys rather than bad.
Show me where it says he founded a Church. Where did it say that Jesus appointed priests?
"Peter" translates to "rock"
He renamed Simon to Rock and said he was the foundation of the Church. He even gave him the keys to the kingdom, and thus the authority to bind and loose the sins of those among him.
It is pretty cut and dry, along all possible translations.
I think you should check out Michael S. Heiser's breakdown of this question. I think the catholic interpretation is distorted. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3BrVkmKELo
Wild how Peter (Rock) peradventures off to numerous places preaching the word of Christ, like a ... of some sort. What does it mean? Why didn't he just erect a ... and preach to the local people? Why not?
Dude, you really need to look up your words. In the original Greek, Jesus tells Peter he is "PETROS." Petros is a small wobbly stone. He then says upon this "PETRA" I will build my church. Petra is a large substantial stone, such as a mountain - look at the city of Petra, carved out of stone. Jesus then proceeds to describe the "PETRA" his church is founded upon - NOT "PETROS."
He basically repeats his words to the multitudes in the Sermon on the Mount, which he repeated throughout his ministry. Summed up, it is if you want forgiveness of sin, you must forgive. "Those things you hold on Earth are held in Heaven." "As you measure out, it shall be measured back to you. Etc.
The best advice I can give to anyone concerning Scripture is: READ WHAT IT SAYS.
Was that in Rome?
Or referring to something/someone else?
Yes. Faith is not dependent on the Pope. Our faith lies in the teachings about God and Jesus as passed to us thru the apostolic succession of the man made hierarchy of the church. The Bible and the Traditions passed to us over the centuries don't depend on any ONE man. Just like any large organization there are good people and bad people. I did see a documentary type film on EWTN Wolf in Sheeps Clothing. Talked about the infiltration of the Catholic church by communists from the American Communist Party in the 1920's and 30's.
This is really hopeful. Thank you!
Your empathy is commendable. We will have many to care for. I grew up in a very culturally & religiously catholic family. (10 siblings, 4 became nuns) my gut says they will not be completely shocked. Nuns are often notoriously cruel - we all have stories. Kind of like when you look back and say “yea, I should have seen”
Yes, I think you are right.
I hope that lovely supportive local church I know keeps its strength and doesn't fall apart. Those people are good and deserve better than that rotten structure.
Satan infiltrated long ago. They don't even put much effort into hiding it anymore.:
SERPENT
not all of the Catholic Church has been compromised but A LOT have . . .
anyone who was in the Church with Pope Francis? they were satanic worshipers
At this point I think EWTN radio, which doesn't get funding directly from the Church, mind you, is where the real Church is alive.
They aren't afraid to call out Francis when he speaks utter bullshit. I'm convinced Mother Angelica defected after she learned the truth about the higher ups and made sure they would never get in bed with the Vatican money scam.
Welcome! Pull up a chair, the movie's about to get good.
You would be correct Sleepy.
The Only Difference in Conspiracy and Truth ..... is Time.
Does this look heavenly to you? Side view is a serpent.
The first 8 pictures explain the last one.
https://imgur.com/TE2OQYw
https://imgur.com/iidNGdi
https://imgur.com/FwVopoR
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https://imgur.com/4RF6GbS
https://imgur.com/zF1UXps
https://imgur.com/XOW7xta
https://imgur.com/FHHON4H
https://www.collective-evolution.com/2017/11/17/the-dark-secrets-behind-the-popes-audience-hall-its-a-giant-reptilian/
Whoa. That's unsettling.
Catholics building a statue of moloch at the coliseum to celebrate "pagan diversity" wasn't a glaring red flag for you??
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Papal_shoes
Just see who wears the red shoes
The Vatican is nothing but the continuation of the ran empire under the guise of christianity
Here i was thinking Jesuits were basically like hardcore Catholics. Like the Catholic Special Forces.
In the beginning they were. Ignatius Loyola was a Soldier before becoming a priest after being wounded. He laid the rules of the Society along Military lines. He required that everyone be educated to be able to give well thought out responses to criticism, some justified, of the church. that was the opening for the devil, he attacked the Jesuits through their schooling. My mom always wanted me to be a Jesuit, she loved them in the 50's. by the time she died in 1990 she was glad I hadn't.
John XXIII took the name of an anti-pope so we would all know the church hierarchy is corrupted. Fatima & Medjugorje predicted our current state.
They all sucks cocks
Brother if you only knew half the stuff the Roman church has done to fuck people up. Used us all.
"Catholic roots..." Hahahahahahaha.
Yeah...ok
A great book to read about the infiltration of the Catholic Church would be, well, "Infiltration" by Taylor Marshall. Yeah I know some people don't like him, but that book was great, had all the details, all the dates, all the names you could want to know about the infiltration. It really opened my eyes to the depths of the depravity in the Church, who's running it/behind it, and what can be done about it.